Zealot question

[NightBlade]

How much life does an archon enigma zealot has on average and how much defense they will get?

Another question, my zealot is currently having only 1200 life is that wayway way too low? ( I have very high base strength for my armor)

stats for my zealot:

250 strength
159 dex
248 vitality

11kar(Y is my ar is low?Stoutwood said average zealots should have 16k ar)
33k defense

finally my last question. I am currently dueling with a 246ed eth death cleaver. I am just wondering if it's worth zodding or should i wait for a higher ed one?)

[wvx_leader_returns]

1200 life is way too low... 11k ar isnt gonna cut it... what armour are you using that requires so much?

-wvx

[NightBlade]

I am wearing ethereal steel carapace. How much life is considered to be average?

[wvx_leader_returns]

2000 ish... I mean 2500 is where it gets good but 1200 will make the greats kill you in just seconds and will make the goods kill you too easy

-wvx

[mortic]

An enigma/non-botd zealot has about the same amount of life as high-Def armor/botd zealot. My enigma/edc zealot has 2028 life w/o cta and 35xx life with cta. But my str and dex are not well placed. If I ever want to remake it for a single set of gear, I can have about 50-75 more vitality points. That would make it 22xx life w/o cta and 38xx life with cta.

[mortic]

2000 ish... I mean 2500 is where it gets good but 1200 will make the greats kill you in just seconds and will make the goods kill you too easy

-wvx
2500 life w/o cta? Do you know any zealot with that much life w/o cta?

[wvx_leader_returns]

yeah i shoulda added those numbers were without cta.

-wvx

[LovelyGods]

i can't think of one zealot who has that much life..

ben ur a little high there..

usually a High Zealot life is 2k. Low(bare minimum to aim for) is 1.5k.

Anything after 2k is just gravy.

My Achron Nigma Zealot has 1,855 life.

Yes ur ar is low. Aim for 15k+

Yes ur life is too low, try to get 1500 or higher.

Average Defense is 20k-30k for a achron nigma zealot. Depends on what setup you use. Could be higher if other items are used. Or lower.

[wvx_leader_returns]

well all i know is the first zealot i made i got 1500 by accident without knowing how to make one - and 2 k was reachable. 2 k was a little too high for an average i guess. A more exact average I would say would be more like 1600-1800 ish, but I still got the point across... 1200 isnt enough

-wvx

[NightBlade]

can you guys give me some hints to where i can get some more ar?

I am making a new zealot. I am thinking instead of putting points in defiance, i am going to put points in bless aim instead. Good idea or bad idea?

Also, has anyone tried to max blessed aim instead of sacrifice for a zealot?

[wvx_leader_returns]

2 angelic rings will do the trick for a quick easy ar bonus

yeah people do max blessed aim instead of sac... have you read the zealot guide?

-wvx

edit: http://forums.rpgforums.net/showthread.php?t=227559

[NightBlade]

yeah, i read it. Let's use my current zealot as an example. About how much ar would i gain if i add put points into blessed aim instead of sacrifice?

[wvx_leader_returns]

You get a 5% passive ar bonus for each skill into blessed aim... you do the math

-wvx

[DistortedRiff]

You could do blessed aim and sacrifice...sacrifice adds damage, and you need it.

[NightBlade]

You could do blessed aim and sacrifice...sacrifice adds damage, and you need it.


yeah, i know i can add both at the expense of points in defiance...

[LovelyGods]

ah young grasshoppers.

Blessed aim passive works on the points YOU put into Dex. not total dex.

so if u only put 70 points into dex and have max block with all gear and lets just say 150 with all gear on.

aim wont add a whole lot to your ar cuz its doing 5% per pt invested on 70 base dex.

max sacrifice....not aim, only exception is if u have a lot into dex.

get angelics = 1000+ ar each ring..

get hsaru's = 900 ar at lvl 90, 800 at lvl 80, 850 at lvl 85. Get the idea... take ur lvl add a zero, thats the ar.

2 x raven frost with 20 dex each, and 240+ ar add alot.

a Cruel Fools of Blah Blah rare weapon adds alot of ar

charms called STeel Sc / Gc / Lc of Vita add alot. Gc's are best 135/45 is max

Alma Negra has % ar . 75% is max

hope that helps.

[Milamber]

You get a 5% passive ar bonus for each skill into blessed aim... you do the math

-wvx
I was under the impression that the 5% bonus from BA is not really that great considering it gets added after the other calculations, meaning it isn't that helpful.

[wvx_leader_returns]

yeah your right... i just forgot to specify that... yeah its not too helpful and there are better ways to get ar but he asked

-wvx

[Milamber]

yeah your right... i just forgot to specify that... yeah its not too helpful and there are better ways to get ar but he asked

-wvx
I was just curious that's all...you know how many different theories there are, and conflicting *Tanatus* opinions *Tanatus* there are ;)

[wvx_leader_returns]

you know how many different theories there are, and conflicting *Tanatus* opinions *Tanatus* there are ;)

:lol: :lol:

There will always be conflicting opinions, and niether are right, but one is always more right than the other

-wvx

edit: dude email me that guide NOW - lol

[LovelyGods]

what guide..

lol...

[wvx_leader_returns]

what guide..

lol...

it was way OT - hes making a guide, i need to see it

-wvx

[NightBlade]

In order to use the carapace, i have to add an additional 30 strength just to use it!. Do you guys think i should just forget about the eth steel carapace and use a stone armor instead?

[Stoutwood]

i can't think of one zealot who has that much life..

ben ur a little high there..

usually a High Zealot life is 2k. Low(bare minimum to aim for) is 1.5k.

Anything after 2k is just gravy.

My Achron Nigma Zealot has 1,855 life.

Yes ur ar is low. Aim for 15k+

Yes ur life is too low, try to get 1500 or higher.

Average Defense is 20k-30k for a achron nigma zealot. Depends on what setup you use. Could be higher if other items are used. Or lower.

Doesn't Thao have 2.5K Brian? I believe thats what he told me.

[Stoutwood]

I was just curious that's all...you know how many different theories there are, and conflicting *Tanatus* opinions *Tanatus* there are ;)

You guys are too hard on poor Tanatus. Sure he has a lot of questionable opinions and he plays a different style than most of the people here, but I would hate to see this forum start chasing off people just because they have different views. We can always correct him if he's wrong. Give the poor guy a break.

[Rizzo]

An enigma/non-botd zealot has about the same amount of life as high-Def armor/botd zealot. My enigma/edc zealot has 2028 life w/o cta and 35xx life with cta. But my str and dex are not well placed. If I ever want to remake it for a single set of gear, I can have about 50-75 more vitality points. That would make it 22xx life w/o cta and 38xx life with cta.


Forgive my n00blarness but what's cta?
Another thing, could you post your current gear? I'd like to know what to aim for, in order to get higher life... :)

[mortic]

Forgive my n00blarness but what's cta?
Another thing, could you post your current gear? I'd like to know what to aim for, in order to get higher life... :)
cta = call to arm runeword

My gear:
EDC
enigma archon
2 angelic rings
angelic ammy
magnus skin gloves or steelrend
gore
CoA ber/ber
verdungos
chamed Shields: hoz, alma negra, ed/ias/ar shield. I used all 3 and there was no noticeable difference.

[wvx_leader_returns]

Doesn't Thao have 2.5K Brian? I believe thats what he told me.

thao still plays? I remember him from .09 zealot days... And he made a 1.10 zealot? where have i been...

-wvx

[LovelyGods]

o thats right, but he is a vita zealot, not a normal one. So i guess Just Thao's old zealot has that kind of life.

Nobi_MxR i think its called

[wvx_leader_returns]

Thao's .09 zealot used to own me... I remember seing him in early 1.10 with a templar but thats the last I heard of him after that. He helped me out with theories a lot though...

-wvx

[Milamber]

You guys are too hard on poor Tanatus. Sure he has a lot of questionable opinions and he plays a different style than most of the people here, but I would hate to see this forum start chasing off people just because they have different views. We can always correct him if he's wrong. Give the poor guy a break.
I was only playing, I have nothing against him actually...and I actually agree with a couple of his points.

[wvx_leader_returns]

I was only playing, I have nothing against him actually...and I actually agree with a couple of his points.

I agree with him in certain areas as well... I dont block out what he says cause i think hes wrong... hes actually changed my mind on something... but theres a couple things that just makes me so angry

-wvx