Rerolling magical items and automods

[Praesidian]

Here's the deal. I need a druid pelt with +3 grizzly, and +3 summoning. Now, obviously the best way to get that is not to go around looking for magical pelts that drop on the ground, and I believe this isnt shopable (please correct me if I'm wrong). So I figure the best way is to get a high ilvl pelt and reroll.

However...

1. Is +3 grizzly an automod, like +mindblast / df on claws or +convic / foh/ etc on scepters?
2. When you put the pelt into the cube with 3 pgems, does the AUTOMOD get rerolled as well as the affixes?
3. Do automods have alvls?
4. Of what ilvl should the pelt be for this to have the greatest chance?
5. Does base pelt type matter (i.e. can it be the normal version or does it have to be an elite type like sky spirit or whatever)?

Thanks.

[Thrugg]

1. The correct term is staffmod (automods are different) but yes, it is just like the +skills on staves and wands etc.
2. Any event that rerolls affixes will also reroll staffmods.
3. Staffmods do not have alvls exactly but there is a dependence on ilvl. To get a level 30 skill like Grizzly you will need to use an ilvl 37 or higher pelt.
4. Any pelt 37+ has exactly the same chance of Grizzly. However, the same is not true of +3 to Summoning tree. That is an everyday magical mod and follows the usual alvl process.
5. Base pelt matters only for the +3 Summoning, and exactly how is a bit complicated.

+3 Summoning is an alvl 60 affix. That means that any pelt qlvl 80 or more can always get it, it also means any pelt ilvl 80 or more can get it (assuming you plan to reroll with PGems, which preserves ilvl). qlvl 80+ pelts are Sky and Dream Spirit.

You can get away with a pelt which is less than ilvl 80 as long as the qlvl is less than (ilvl-60)*2, if that makes sense. For example, Wolf Head is only qlvl 4, so you can use an ilvl 62+ Wolf Head. Spirit Mask is qlvl 24, so you can use an ilvl 72+ Spirit Mask.

But, it shouldn't be too hard to just get an ilvl 85 pelt of whatever kind (ie from the Pit) and that will be fine.

[ArchDemonHunter]

In addition to Thrugg, you could also use
- clvl 56+ character
- rare Sky Spirit or Dream Spirit
- 6 pskull cube recipe
to reroll (infinitely) to get +3 grizzly and +3 summoning.

(Please correct me if I'm wrong.)

[Praesidian]

Has to be magical though.

Thanks, Thrugg, thats a great help. Is there a chance that the staffmod can come out +1?

Also, pretty much what you're saying is, if I find ANY (no matter what base it is) magical pelt from Hell Baal, Hell Pindle, or Hell Pit, that I have a chance of getting +3/+3 mods on a pgem reroll? Just want to make sure.

[Thrugg]

The distribution of the +bonus on each staffmod is fixed and can not be affected by ilvl or clvl or anything else. It is set at 60/30/10 for +1/+2/+3, so getting +3 is always hard work.

I didn't really go into the odds you're looking at here; they're not impossible but they aren't fantastic either. About 1/23 pelts will spawn with Grizzly on them, so 1/230 will have +3 Grizzly. Around 1/270 pelts of the kind you need will get Keeper's (+3 summon). The two are independent, so it is around a 62,000:1 shot.

If you settle for +3 Sum / + 2 Grizzly, it improves to 15,500:1
If you settle for +3/+1, it improves to 6,200:1
If you settle for +2/+3, it is 31,000:1
If you settle for +2/+2, it is 7,800:1
If you settle for +1/+3, it is 20,700:1

No point settling any further than that, really. Diablo isn't really a game where you can expect to manufacture the item you want, even though it might be possible.

Yes, any base pelt of ilvl 80+ can get the mods you want, the odds don't really change at all.

ADH, rares cannot get the +3 summoning mod, only up to +2. Plus odds for getting the exact rare you want make the odds for magicals look like a picnic :)

[LifePincher]

Are you trying to find this for me or yourself ?
I'm offering 45High runes for a +3Summon/+3Grizzly Magic helm.

ArchDemonHunter ---- Rare cannot get +3Summon ! (no such helm, ever)

[Praesidian]

Both... wanted to answer your question in the original thread, I want to make a summoner myself, and I want to cash in all at the sime time, lol.

Thanks again Thrugg.

[ArchDemonHunter]

Hmmm... I was wrong again. Rare can not spawn +3 skill-tab. Sorry.