PvP Summoner

[INyCxT]

ive been experimenting with an enigma recently and this build is fairly decent. but if anyone has any experience, then i would greatly appreciate any feedback.

so basically, i summon up 15 skellies, 10 mages, clay golem, merc with blackhorns (for slow), and revive 10+ strong monsters such as urdars and black souls.

i go out, namelock and teleport onto a char, cast decrepify and spam my almost unsynergized bone spirit into the person.

this method works very well for melee characters, including WW barbs since i take them by surprise and put them itno hit recovery.

but the one problem ive facing is against casters. this build definetly works, but its rather annoying when they teleport away and i hav eto chase them down. so that's one issue i have a problem with.
the next is casters with strong AoE skils such as blizzard, hurricane, poison nova etc. i try my best to avoid these but one is enough (mby not hurricane) to demolish most of my army. i was wondering how i could get around this problem.


o yea there's nothing better than to watch 7 players squirm in a pubbie when they see 10 black souls in town.

any feedback is appreciated.

[NecroManiac]

PvP summoners are lame, no one will want to duel u. and plus ur using slow as tatic to catch them. Make a pvp boner that shows alot more skill than a summoner by far.

[CEG]

There is no such thing as a PvP summoner. You arn't dueling. You are a PK Summoner. You just want to tele on people and get insta kills and skip the actual dueling part.

[built2burn]

if it theyre so lame why doesnt everyone have one?

[uncreativereally]

if it theyre so lame why doesnt everyone have one?
umm yea. Edit your post plz, it makes no sence.

[rickcarson]

There is no such thing as a PvP summoner. You arn't dueling. You are a PK Summoner. You just want to tele on people and get insta kills and skip the actual dueling part.

.... right .... okay .... this is not at all like everybody and their dog using the Enigma teleport... or the Pally one hit charge p0wns you...

those, after all, are *legitimate* tactics...

.... right .... uhuh.

I never have understood this aspect of duelling. This mentality that arbitrarily decides that one skill or item is 'bad', whereas others are 'good'.

I mean, 1 hit kill from a Pally, and what, you're the freaking Pope??
Compared to a 1 hit kill from a Necro, and all of a sudden you're the freaking antichrist?? :rant:

The attitude amongst duellers seems to be 'nerf classes X, Y and Z until they always lose, and then stop'.

But what amazes me is the prevalence of this 'group think'. You would think that a group of players would stand up, and say "bring it bi0tch, and if you can't take the heat, you ain't l33t!!", and then give the nerfers a jolly good taunting for being the tossers that they appear (to me, totally outside that whole culture) to be.

[Myrakh-2]

I mean, 1 hit kill from a Pally, and what, you're the freaking Pope??
Compared to a 1 hit kill from a Necro, and all of a sudden you're the freaking antichrist?? :rant:

I don't think the pope is raising skeletons from corpses or reviving them... may be wrong on this, but the "marketing" of the pope as being the uberest of uber holy people kind of contradicts that.

Maybe that's why you're not a pope when playing a necro.

[rickcarson]

umm yea. Edit your post plz, it makes no sence.

(Insert standard /. reference)

You haven't been here very long then I take it?


I will now ruin the joke, by deconstructing the original posts.


The original poster said: "this is good"
The second poster said: "thats too good, so its lame"
The third poster said: "if its so lame, why isn't everyone doing it"


which is valid, because the second poster had already changed the value of the local variable 'lame', to point at the value 'good'.

Which was a witty turning of the tables on the objector, by using his own object references against him. It is therefore a plea against the relentless oppression of the tyranny of a duality 'yes/no' binary worldview, as represented by the eternal struggle of yin vs yang.


Anyone that is lost by this, or wants to flame, you can just think to yourselves 'oh yeah? well if you're so smart buddy, how come you didn't spot that he'd said sence instead of sense eh?'.

Or... you could just tell me how to insert colourised text :)

[INyCxT]

ok im sorry.

will a moderator please lock this post?

thank you

[qazxswcde]

pvp summoner can only take on certain classes {melle or basically melle]
but your really no worse off then a hammerdin i think

[EuroJamie]

ok im sorry.

will a moderator please lock this post?

thank you

I hardly think it calls for that. It's an interesting idea, which is obvious from the debate it's provoking.

I don't PvP personally, but my philosophy, if I did, would be that anything goes in pubbie games (apart from duping, hacks, etc). Blizzard have seen fit to grant your character certain skills and have made certain items available to be used, so you should use them. If people have a problem with this, then they should form or join a clan which clearly outlines what is and isn't considered acceptable for duelling purposes. That way everybody is happy.

I think that addresses the question of "should it be allowed?". However, what I would say is debatable is "would you want to?". Personally, I don't see the attraction in amassing my mob of summons and then simply teleporting on top of someone and allowing my minions to beat them to death. It just doesn't sound like that much fun. Neither for that matter does killing them with one hit from a pally. I'd imagine the PvP that I'd get more entertainment out of would be something like Bonemancer vs Bonemancer - some of the recent discussions on the forum about this suggest that it is quite a complex and skilled process.

I think that what holds true in PvM also holds trure in PvP - it's pretty easy to make a character that owns with the greatest of ease, but more important than kicking @ss is having a good time :thumbsup:

[Necrokiller999]

Dude i love summoner duelers there the coolest. and they are duelling so i would shutup about that. and summeners can kill more then meele i mean im a zon and u get pwned by one if they jump on u and u get owned lol. i mean each skillie does like what 800 somthing now if u have 25 + a golem + merc=26 summons , merc now do the math. that is yeah thats like what 20000 per hit on each of them. yeah shutup there freaking strong and dont call them pussies either because if there the pussy then you just suck if u cant beat them. and yes im dissing myself because i cant beat them even with nova well im not sure with my nova because i never dueled one only wiht bowazon and bone necros. just wanted to give u my 2 cents on this thread. nice thread man.