So Where are the new "RULES" For Legit PvP Dueling?

[CaptainRelient]

Im just getting started on this PvP dueling stuff plz tell me where to find it or a link or somthing or find me in a game online.

Thx,

Jake


/w *zero-thehero1


:o9

[LLD-Vampire]

Pubbys really have no rules but in general pubbys I'de probably say this.

No potting (antidote, health, mana, thawing) Only healths will really be noticed
No completly absorbing someone element or lowering the damage so much that they have no chance.
No NK
ALWAYS take gold, when they ***** tell them thats why it drops and squelch them if they say anything after that.
Don't be a trapper or FoHer (your very *** if you choose one of these as your dueler because they "require no skill"
Your not allowed to posssess items of any value on ladder or your an ebayer.
If you win a duel you are to spam KEKE ^^ KK THX GG NUB KK THX then leave the game.
4v1ing someone is completly fair.

Yeah this kinda turned into a pubby idiot flame.

Uh just kinda listen to the first 4, seriously take their gold if for nothing else then to watch them complain.

[Rauth]

Heres a real simple one that is all you need.

Don't be a jerk.


If that doesn't work for ya, then try this.

Don't do anything you wouldn't want done back to you.

If people complain about something reasonable, like using enigma, cta , high resistances, etc, then just ignore them. They will eventually shut up, and if they don't you can always squelch.


Taking the time to type out "good duel" after a duel(regardless of who won) really helps to smooth over things. Most people aren't too happy about losing and this keeps things from getting ugly. It also shows people you are a decent person, something sorely lacking in bnet. Sometimes a simple "gg" (good game)works but that can be taken the wrong way(tauntingly) so I avoid using it.


A note on gold- I never have understood peoples attachment to it. It takes maybe 15 minutes of killing stuff to get a couple million. I honestly don't notice it at all while I duel. Just like ears. If I lose a million gold in a duel I don't even notice until after I've finished dueling. The problem is, most nking/townguarding/4vs1ing is started by taking gold. I just avoid it all together and if I accidently grab some I go drop it in town.

Let the weirdos keep their gold.

[LLD-Vampire]

Heres a real simple one that is all you need.

Don't be a jerk.


If that doesn't work for ya, then try this.

Don't do anything you wouldn't want done back to you.

If people complain about something reasonable, like using enigma, cta , high resistances, etc, then just ignore them. They will eventually shut up, and if they don't you can always squelch.


Taking the time to type out "good duel" after a duel(regardless of who won) really helps to smooth over things. Most people aren't too happy about losing and this keeps things from getting ugly. It also shows people you are a decent person, something sorely lacking in bnet. Sometimes a simple "gg" (good game)works but that can be taken the wrong way(tauntingly) so I avoid using it.


A note on gold- I never have understood peoples attachment to it. It takes maybe 15 minutes of killing stuff to get a couple million. I honestly don't notice it at all while I duel. Just like ears. If I lose a million gold in a duel I don't even notice until after I've finished dueling. The problem is, most nking/townguarding/4vs1ing is started by taking gold. I just avoid it all together and if I accidently grab some I go drop it in town.

Let the weirdos keep their gold.
In 2 minutes of killing idiots you can get a couple mill gold :). Hmm this is an odd phenomenon the gold seems to drop right after you die, it's almost as if blizzard wanted it this way.... How odd. It's the fee they have to pay me for taking half a durability off my gear, get to a mill and go mass gheed gamble (circlets or ammys)

[Rauth]

Blizzard also wanted us to do every single quest in every single act every single time we made a new char. Too bad for them.

I am just pointing out that there is no need for taking gold. It just pisses people off for no reason. If you need to repair your gear, go kill a few monsters, its not hard.

You are responsible for taking durability off of your gear because YOU are the one who chose to duel. If someone really likes their gold for some reason why not let them keep it? It prevents all the nking and junk you always complain about. I've seen it a thousand times.

Player A kills Player B.
Player A takes Player B's money.
Player B feels it is his right to nk Player A in order to get his gold back.
Player A gets mad at being nked and nks back.
Etc etc.

[Phresh]

Current PVP-East Rules v1.10

Item Specific:
-No hacked/bugged items
-No charges (up to debate)
-Life regeneration must be under 20
-Absorb limit - 1 absorb or +max resists limit per element. (This point is open to debate)
Example: You can use a wisp or a thundergod's vigor, but not a wisp and thundergod's vigor. Note: Guardian Angel counts as +max resists for both lighting and fire.

Note: Cross-class skills are allowed, such as Enigma.


Class Specific
-No Holy Bolt healing


General Rules:
-You must remain in the Blood Moor at ALL times until you die, from then on which you will wait until either all of your teammates are killed, or your opponents teammates are.
-Hirelings are not allowed.
-The use of shrines / wells is prohibited.
-Going into the den of evil / Cave is prohibited. Bridge rules may vary per game/tournament.
-Healing during the duel is prohibited. Please take out any potions that you have in your belt, and put them in your stash, have me hold them for you while you duel, or simply use them before you duel.
-Difficulty of games may vary per game/tournament.
-Leaving the blood moor at any time during the duel is not allowed, except for an accidental teleport into town, thats ok with me if it was an accident. Just go back outside and try not to let it happen again. Abuse of this will not be tolerated.
-Any third party programs are banned from being used while you are dueling. You run diablo ii and join a game. You do not alt tab to activate your map hack, d2hackit etc.
-Stealing gold from an opponent will not be tolerated. Nor will naked killing.
-If you die, please be quiet and let the remaining players duel.
-You dont have to like your opponents, but you do have to act mature. If you dont like your opponents just hit the ignore button, and I will do enough communicating so the duel goes smoothly. Excessive spamming / being stupid will not be allowed.
-Keep the racism/prejudice at home. I wont tolerate any kinds of comments of this sort.

Tournament specific
-There may only be 1 class of each character per team. No three zon teams etc..
-There will be 2 mods in the game, 1 mod per team. Respect your mod.
-Be respectful of your teammates and opponents, ANY constant trash talking, flaming, or overall *****ing and being very difficulty will not be tolerated.
-Rejoin after you die if you want because of the Anya resistances bug.
-Any disc/"you have lost your connection" counts as a death sorry. Close all messenger programs so they dont get you killed, and even reboot if you want before you start to make sure your pc is in fresh condition~
-If in the end, 1 member is left from each team, and they both die simultaneously it will count as a draw, and a rematch will occur.
-You will not start the duel until 1 of the 2 mods asks both teams if they are ready ,and once they reply yes, he will count down from 5 to 1, and say go. Once go is said you may proceed to duel. If you start at anytime before this it will count as a loss to your team. And if you exit the blood moor after go is said at anytime you will be counted as dead.
-The Blood Moor is to be cleared before dueling commences. This includes removing any arrows, potions, or other items that may have an effect on the duel.
-When you enter the game, choose an area to be your designated "starting area" for you and your team. Please do NOT make this directly outside of the Rogue Encampment exit/entrance as people pass by there quite often.

[LLD-Vampire]

Blizzard also wanted us to do every single quest in every single act every single time we made a new char. Too bad for them.

I am just pointing out that there is no need for taking gold. It just pisses people off for no reason. If you need to repair your gear, go kill a few monsters, its not hard.

You are responsible for taking durability off of your gear because YOU are the one who chose to duel. If someone really likes their gold for some reason why not let them keep it? It prevents all the nking and junk you always complain about. I've seen it a thousand times.

Player A kills Player B.
Player A takes Player B's money.
Player B feels it is his right to nk Player A in order to get his gold back.
Player A gets mad at being nked and nks back.
Etc etc.
To bad for player B if player B trys to nk player A (asuming he does die) player B is gonna get some serious FoH nk. GG player B thanks for more gold. If ya don't die your gold doesn't drop. I hate people who ***** about their gold, I had some guy try to nk me over 700 gold I was laughing so hard, he was a ww barb using some mace, probably bstar. That was amusing.

Edit: oh yeah and it is his responsability to not lose gold since HE decided to duel. GG player B you still suck.

[Rauth]

To bad for player B if player B trys to nk player A (asuming he does die) player B is gonna get some serious FoH nk. GG player B thanks for more gold. If ya don't die your gold doesn't drop. I hate people who ***** about their gold, I had some guy try to nk me over 700 gold I was laughing so hard, he was a ww barb using some mace, probably bstar. That was amusing.

Edit: oh yeah and it is his responsability to not lose gold since HE decided to duel. GG player B you still suck.

You are the reason why pub dueling sucks. No offense, of course.

[LLD-Vampire]

You are the reason why pub dueling sucks. No offense, of course.
Why am I the reason, he's the one trying to nk me. It's not my fault if I'm just better at it. I suppose it is my fault a little I'll NK entire games of people just because I want gold for repair/gamble. Killing people is funner than killing monsters, the monsters don't ***** when they die. At least I'm not using maphack/flashing screeny hack/ias fcr hack eh?

[Rauth]

Thats like a murderer saying "At least I don't steal eh?"

Well, not quite like that, but you get the idea.


I was kinda kidding too. But really, if you do what they do you are almost as bad as them.

[Inuyasha]

The only rule, above all else, is don't piss your opponent off. If it isn't a friendly competition of skill, then it isn't dueling, just fighting. Dueling is structured fights against prepared, willing, and rule abiding opponents.

LLD, if you take gold like that, then you have never dueled in your life in the first place.

[awjl]

There are no black-and-white rules.

Some type of ways people pvp:
1) Absolutely no rules, go all out to kill, kill, kill and kill till the opponent cant stand it.

2) Peaceful pvp, go out to kill and be allowed to be killed.

3) Cant think of any at the moment,...

[-Ferro-]

FERRO´s GOLDEN RULES for public dueling:

Just a highlights about how I do in public.

-Forbidden features: Slow, charges, any items with %chance to cast something nasty (read lifetab, amp damage, decrepifie; who cares about 10% to cast lvl 5 Nova on striking), teleport (use enigma, enjoy its +2 skills and streng bonus, but dont be a chicken and tele around).
-Absorb: more than one absorb is abusing, however, I stack as many resist as I need.
-Ask other chars for dueling, say "go" and wait for the others response. Dont attack from the back.
-No hacks.
-No bugged items.
-No nk
-Dont take gold, I ask for it if need repair (youll always get it).
-No swearing, ignore/squelch jerks. Be polite and people tends to do the same. Ignore b-astar-ds. Dont fall into provocation, even for the worst a-s-hole-s, keep calm. Leaving game when someone is annoying you is more glorious than starting a flame/nakewar.
-nk LLD-Vampire as many times as you can, cast bone prision and traps on his corpse, take all his gold while spamming repeatedly " THNX 4 UR G0ld". (j/k)

[LordDrift]

- No Slow
- No Chance to Cast
- No Decrip

[LLD-Vampire]

"-nk LLD-Vampire as many times as you can, cast bone prision and traps on his corpse, take all his gold while spamming repeatedly " THNX 4 UR G0ld". (j/k)"

To nk me you'de have to kill me first. Unless your one of those nasty teleing hammerinds, wind druid, or a really good nec. I'll kill you. Luckily for me there arnt too many people with enigma on ladder. The wind druids still lose sometimes.

[Rauth]

Good thing I have a tele windy on ladder. And I don't recall ever losing to any variant of foher.

THX 4 UR GOLD!!

Oh wait...gold sucks. Keep your sucky gold.

[LLD-Vampire]

Good thing I have a tele windy on ladder. And I don't recall ever losing to any variant of foher.

THX 4 UR GOLD!!

Oh wait...gold sucks. Keep your sucky gold.
My foh is mostally just a place for my extra points..

[Xion-Valkyrie]

For pubbies, there are no rules, just rules you set for yourself to achieve what kind of a dueling environment you are currently looking for.

If you want a friendly, legitimate duel of skill:
1) no potions
2) Limit your absorb so your opponent can at least do some damage in
3) no slow, chance to cast items
4) 1 on 1, no gang banging
5) no naked killing, take gold if you want unless the other person cries over it, then give it back to be nice =D
6) NO BONEWALLING PEOPLE IN if you're bone necro

Now, if you just want to go in game and kill and slaugter other players, there are no rules. Use whatever you want (preferably no hacks or potions though) and go ahead and pwnz them.

[LLD-Vampire]

For pubbies, there are no rules, just rules you set for yourself to achieve what kind of a dueling environment you are currently looking for.

If you want a friendly, legitimate duel of skill:
1) no potions
2) Limit your absorb so your opponent can at least do some damage in
3) no slow, chance to cast items
4) 1 on 1, no gang banging
5) no naked killing, take gold if you want unless the other person cries over it, then give it back to be nice =D
6) NO BONEWALLING PEOPLE IN if you're bone necro

Now, if you just want to go in game and kill and slaugter other players, there are no rules. Use whatever you want (preferably no hacks or potions though) and go ahead and pwnz them.
Yes! I love that last part. I love nking stupid ***** zons/sorcs that just make like huge lame noob partys, then they like 3v1 you and ***** about absorb. GG NOOBS

[The_Sickness_101]

In 2 minutes of killing idiots you can get a couple mill gold :). Hmm this is an odd phenomenon the gold seems to drop right after you die, it's almost as if blizzard wanted it this way.... How odd. It's the fee they have to pay me for taking half a durability off my gear, get to a mill and go mass gheed gamble (circlets or ammys)

Yea, why take gold. I use for repairs because I do not trade for rals and will not try finding them as it is a waste of time. They take my gold, I kill them and get my gold plus more. It is bad enough in duels w/o instigating conflict. Being stupid like that generally annoys me, so I'll annoy them back. Spam teeth at town, tele on top and slow em w/ clay golem and stuff like that.

[LLD-Vampire]

Yea, why take gold. I use for repairs because I do not trade for rals and will not try finding them as it is a waste of time. They take my gold, I kill them and get my gold plus more. It is bad enough in duels w/o instigating conflict. Being stupid like that generally annoys me, so I'll annoy them back. Spam teeth at town, tele on top and slow em w/ clay golem and stuff like that.
God forbid we instigate conflict IN A DUEL GAME. Jesus what next we all turn on eachother and start dueling? They die the gold drops winner takes it. Thats the point in my opinion.

[TheCerberus]

In a dueling game if I kill you I will take your gold. I can't stand when someone else runs up and takes your gold or someone elses when they've been in town the whole time.

NK = sucks though.

[Rauth]

My foh is mostally just a place for my extra points..

Wouldn't matter if you had no points in foh. :)

[The_Sickness_101]

God forbid we instigate conflict IN A DUEL GAME. Jesus what next we all turn on eachother and start dueling? They die the gold drops winner takes it. Thats the point in my opinion.

I mean when you elevate it to the point above friendly competition, which I'm sure you do often, as it gets severely annoying here.

[luis19]

i just duel how i would like other ppl to duel me.
but that doesnt always work.
if someone nk's me on purpose i will nk back.

i take gold whenver i need it, be it mana pots or repairs.

[LLD-Vampire]

I mean when you elevate it to the point above friendly competition, which I'm sure you do often, as it gets severely annoying here.
No, beating one of these people elevates it past "friendly competition". You can be completly GM, don't take gold, say go before duel. If you win you get an excuse or hear about how your skill of choice is ***. I get told smite or charge is *** by like 75% of the people I duel. Then theres the stupid zealots "HAHAHA SMITE NOOB ZEAL CAN'T BEAT SMITE" As if it's my fault his build is flawed, so then I tell them I'll zeal duel them and they switch to smite in the middle of the duel which if followed by one of these outcomes.

#1 They win and spam GG HAHAH NOOB GOD YOU SUCK
#2 They lose and leave the game
#3 I switch to smite as well and after I win I hear ****** IT WAS ZEAL DUEL.

Yes idiots suck, can we have them all shot at birth?

[luis19]

Well even so, there are alot of GM duelers in pubbies, otherwise i wouldn't have my /f list 's full.

There are alot of idiots too. I usually just ignore them, i could care less what they say because i really can't do anything to stop them. Plus, i feel that if you wanna talk trash and stuff, it should be done in real life where when someone pisses me off they get dropped.

[Rauth]

Yes idiots suck, can we have them all shot at birth?

How do you tell an idiot baby from a non-idiot baby?

[LLD-Vampire]

How do you tell an idiot baby from a non-idiot baby?
haha. Lets just kill them all to make sure?

FINE at age 5 they die if they are an idiot, they have 5 years to shape up or BAM bullet in the head.

On a side note check out my new kick *** avatar.

[Inuyasha]

haha. Lets just kill them all to make sure?

FINE at age 5 they die if they are an idiot, they have 5 years to shape up or BAM bullet in the head.

On a side note check out my new kick *** avatar.

Somehow, this is a bit disturbing to us people with a bit of sanity left.... Unfortunately this system wasn't up before, or Vampire here wouldn't have survived the screening.

On a serious note, dealing with idiots is easy enough. In general, unless there are other noobs backing them up, the rest of the players will begin with the STFU's on them.

[Wubbie]

Duel games have no rules. Otherwise, blizzard would notise them ingame.

Players make there own runes. Thats all.

[Inuyasha]

Duel games most certainly have rules. Anything else can't be called a duel game, as explained earlier in the thread.