Best BVB WW Jewel?

[Dracoy]

I need to socket my arreats/eth caarpace with the best BVB jewel.

What is better

40/9str
40/9dex
ed/ias
ed/max
ed/min
Ur suggestoin?

[acceleration turkey]

not ed/min or max

[TripDaddyX]

Original post by TripDaddyX had some good advice, suggesting using 40/9 jewels over anything else. My dumb *** edited it instead of replying; my apologies!

-Hal

[Loca`ne]

I found a 14 max/ 13 all res jewel, would that be a better choice than say a 36 ED/ 15 max jewel I found? Are all max jewels mods bugged when placed into weapons?

What I'm using it on is Auldur's mace which happens to be 3 socketed, I had a 35 ED/ 15 IAS jewel I found but so far that's all I've put in there, it pumped up the damage nicely I think. Still have 2 sockets to place anything into, rune or jewel. As I usually keep just about every jewel I have found (mostly for crafting purposes) I have a rather large selection.

Suggestions welcome, answers wanted ;)

Loca

[Jell-O]

Ed/max-min works fine in weapons, armory is the problem.
36/15 is still better than plain 14 max in terms of average dmg(in armors) but you'd probably be better off with plain ed or ed/str-dex.

And to make the post not completely OT - 40/9 str :)

[TripDaddyX]

OT-How come Hal Hijacked my post o_O?Don't recall posting anything "rude,lude,etc"

[Grandar King of Trolls]

For WW, IAS is only calculated from the weapon, so don't use an ed/ias in your helm. Ed/Max only gets multiplied if you put it in the weapon, so don't put that in your helm, either. ed/res, ed/str, ed/dex are probably your best bets.

It all depends on how your barb is doing right now. Does he need res? Can you save some str points and pump life a bit more by using the ed/str? Do you wear a shield and need help getting to max block (ed/dex)?

[Loca`ne]

meh actually I cheated a little... this is a weapon for a druid :\

but umm ya to also stay OT

I'd go with 40/ STR just cause barbs do some serious damage with more str.

[Grandar King of Trolls]

barbs do some serious damage with more str.

9 points do not a titan make. But I can't argue, all the same.

[jumbo_SHRIMP]

30% enhanced damage +9 str, +9 dex +10 res all :D

phelix

[Halciet]

OT-How come Hal Hijacked my post o_O?Don't recall posting anything "rude,lude,etc"

WHOOPS! LOL! SORRY about that Trip! I'm still getting used to this mod thing, and now I have this extra button for "edit" where my "reply" button used to be. LOL!

Sorry about that! HAHAHAHAHAHAAH!

Well, since ed/max and ed/min are bugged and don't work properly, I second the 40/9 notion. Those seem to be the best choices for pvp barbs.

-Hal

[Loca`ne]

Well, since ed/max and ed/min are bugged and don't work properly, I second the 40/9 notion. Those seem to be the best choices for pvp barbs.

so are they bugged only for armor or for weapons as well? Meaning I have my 3 socketed weapon and my 36/14 max jewel, if I were to put that in my weapon would that work correctly or would it be buggy and mess up the whole reason for puting the jewel in it in the first place?

[Loca`ne]

9 points do not a titan make. But I can't argue, all the same.

too true, too true, but the str mods add up and titan barb though they may not be... serious hurt will they do.

[Halciet]

Loc: We originally thought it to only be armor, though I believe someone did some testing a few months ago and reported that it wasn't working with weapons either. I'll try and look it up again after I finish up some of the FAQ.

-Hal

[Grandar King of Trolls]

too true, too true, but the str mods add up and titan barb though they may not be... serious hurt will they do.


Oh, I wasn't intending to disagree with you at all. Just saying that it depends on the particular barb as to what is the best. Err.. um... Depends on the barb, it does. :)

I've seen some sick titan builds and I'm getting tempted to try my hand at one.

[Zangeif]

I would pul the carapace, and 40/9 the Arreats, assuming you are a ww barb. If conc, 40/15ias jewels if they will reach a faster attack frame.

To Loca - it totally depends on what build your druid is (fury?) and whether you need ias or not to reach a faster attack frame. If ias iasn't needed, you should consider putting Lo's in the other 2 sockets.

If you are fury, remember that it works like ww - only weapon ias applies.

[shaftstop]

hm, what would you suggest for socketing a 27ED/3 life and a plain 37ED
my choices is upp'd shaft (currently has ptopaz in it for extra mf) Clean perf arreats and I have a low ED Lightsaber*, I've tried to get myself a better LS*
before I considered socketing it but not having any luck getting one thats cheap (mine is 185% ED 98 to 129) Im all pvm with this frenzy build heh so would "like" to keep that whole 24% mf lol but im working on getting some mf swap (dual alis ect)

I didn't realise Ed/min & max where bugged though heh, a suggestion though instead of ED if you can't find any I wonder if min/max AR jewels would be good alternative too? I have a +4 min / 55 AR jewel

[Grandar King of Trolls]

The min/max is bugged, not the ed. I dunno if it will be any different in ar jewels.

[Caerbannog]

Min and max bugged? huhwhat?
They add damage... at least some.. and some is enough for me 8)

Why is Jello's name all jellow? :scratch:
Is that like.... admin color?

[acceleration turkey]

apparently min max jewels are bugges when they have a +% damage prefix

a +40% damage / +15 max damage jewel gets +15 max damage but it also makes the +40% max damage only, thus making it 1/2 as effective. thus people desire the +40% damage / +9 srength jewels.

[volrath aka A_A_F]

kind of off topic here
so a rare ed/min/max jewel wouldnt be bugged? or has this not been tested?

just wondering thx

[Jell-O]

Perhaps that was just a typo, acceleration turkey, but if you use a 40/15 max you get the +15 to max which gets modified by certain mods(not sure which but could be str and skills but not ed% from eq) while the 40% ed will only apply to minimum damage(which then works properly).
The other way around for ed/min jewels.
Not sure on triple-mod jewels but my guess is that the ed% is useless then :cheesy:

Caerbannog, the "DiabloII.Net Pal" below my avatar might have something to do with the color :)

[Halciet]

Min and max bugged? huhwhat?
They add damage... at least some.. and some is enough for me 8)

Why is Jello's name all jellow? :scratch:
Is that like.... admin color?

Yellow names are for Pal memebers who have donated to the site. You can look this up in the FAQ link beside User CP at the top of the page.

Yet again, ed jewels with max or min are bugged in that they do not apply the appropriate amount of damage. I would assume this extends to rare triple-mod ones with ed/max/min, though it hasn't been tested as no one has found and socketed one lately, to my knowledge.

-Hal

edit: jell posted while I was typing ;)

[Caerbannog]

Yellow names are for Pal memebers who have donated to the site. You can look this up in the FAQ link beside User CP at the top of the page.

Yet again, ed jewels with max or min are bugged in that they do not apply the appropriate amount of damage. I would assume this extends to rare triple-mod ones with ed/max/min, though it hasn't been tested as no one has found and socketed one lately, to my knowledge.

-Hal

edit: jell posted while I was typing ;)

Hehe wow, is that actually a FREQUENTLY asked question? I thought I was the only one weird enough to ask something like that... :)
P.S. Hal you're a mod now, you could've just edited out jellos post.... *evil wicked grin* mwahahaha :evil:

[Loca`ne]

Ok I put a 36/15 ED/IAS, a 31/14 ED/Max, and a 14/13 MAX/All res jewel in the mace (auldurs) and took note of each increase but seemed to work out correctly if my calculations were correct. Also, I used a unique round shield which came with 2 sockets to place a 15 IAS jewel and a 9/15 Max/IAS jewel and interestingly enough it added a fair amount of damage to my total damage seen in the char stats screen.

Is this the well known lying damage or actual damage that I'm doing...

PS: This is a rabid/fury druid build I'm working on to answer your questoin Zang.

But because this is a Jewel discution I figured it be ok to work this out now :D

Loca

[Halciet]

Loc, the jewels are reportedly only bugged in armor, they should work fine in weapons (though there were some reports a few months back that they were bugged there too). Similarly, the only one of those jewels you mentioned that would be bugged in armor is the ed/max one, the other jewels are fine by the bug.

-Hal

[Loca`ne]

Original post by Loc was just in response to mine, and mentioned not understanding a max bug with shields; rookie me clicked the edit button instead of the reply button and erased his old message. My apologies to Loc!

-Hal

[Halciet]

Sorry, I should've clarified, it's armor/shield for the bug, and it's only for jewels that have BOTH ed AND max damage or ed AND min...I don't think you were catching that part, and that's why you were popping in ias/max and resist/max and such.

-Hal

[Grandar King of Trolls]

I've never even had an ed/max or ed/min jewel, so I haven't been able to test it myself. My undestanding was that the min/max addition while on the weapon would add directly to the weapon before multiplyers and if it was somewhere else, it would add after. Hmm... maybe I am just completely off track. Someone who is really rich should test it out. :)

[Halciet]

It was working so that if you put in an ed/max jewel, the max mod would be added, but the ED mod would only apply to the minimum damage. Similarly, if you put in an ed/min jewel, the min damage would be added, and the ed would only be applied to the max. Thus I'd think that if you put in an ed/max/min rare jewel, you'd just get the min and max boosts.


-Hal

[Zangeif]

Well is 40/10min only bugged for barbs? All of the top fury druids use jewlers X of the whale (or stability) socketed with 40/10 mins. They say that 40/15max in armor is bugged, but 40/10min isn't.

[Halciet]

As far as we know, both are bugged. Maybe the fury druids just don't realize it, hah hah. I need to roll up some more stones to test it soon, just to see.

-Hal