Frenzy Questions

[SgtPPS]

Ok my Frenzy Barb is lvl 42 I am curently using fleshrender / 4 socket flail with 4 p.emeralds. Whats a good mid lvl weapon to use ?

Also my skills so far are 15 frenzy plus pre req's 1 extra in double swing
15 in mace mastery
1 in all of the ones below like resist iron skin and the other 2
1 in everything going to battle command except bo has 5

so should i max frenzy ?

where else should i put my skills ?

I am not rich but i do have 1 stormlash ready for him and a stoned hellforge armor, draculs, string (wearing now) arreats (wearing now), high lords , gore riders, carrion ring , ravenfrost.

Now should i go another storm lash or schaffers or nords ?
and do i sheal them ? dont know ias bp

[xpumafangx]

Stick with stormlash. Try to get 2 of them. % chance to cast will really help you out. And you want those really fast weapons as well. If you get up to level you could easyly use a sheaffers intill you get a second stormlash.

[Ash Housewares]

fleshrender is a pretty good mid lvl mace

there's also a few nice scepters, my mace barb used Fetid Sprinklers for awhile

max frenzy
max mastery
max BO

I would divide the rest between frenzy synergies after getting warcry to a decent level ~6+

[SgtPPS]

ok I am currently at lvl 58 got frenzy and mastery maxed plus put enough points to get war cry. that cry is very very nice. working on my bo's now.

But I wasnt looking at what I was going to wear. hmmm no mana leech if i use highlords unless i take raven off which I dont want to do. should I use cresent moon ?

so lets say i have lvl 24-25 frnzy and I have 2 stormlashes how much more ias to reach the best i can with out using 60 ias armor ?

[Ash Housewares]

according to the german calc
http://diablo2.ingame.de/tips/calcs/weaponspeed.php?lang=english

you'll need 80 total ias for max speed with stormlashes

you've got 30 on the weap

if you use highlords then you're only 30 away, then a shael would cut it to 10

crescent moon is more of a whirler ammy, you won't need much mana steal at all, certainly not 11-15% and the loss of highlords, you could always change gloves/belt/carrion ring

[SgtPPS]

Ok so if I have this right If I use Highlords then all i would have to do is sheal both stormlashes and then use a 15% ias in the helm.

[Ash Housewares]

Ok so if I have this right If I use Highlords then all i would have to do is sheal both stormlashes and then use a 15% ias in the helm.

according to the calc that should do it

[harbinger_00]

But I wasnt looking at what I was going to wear. hmmm no mana leech if i use highlords unless i take raven off which I dont want to do. should I use cresent moon ?

Until I come across a nice +2barb ammy with ml on it, I'm relying on mana potions only. Even 1ml (too bad that doesn't come on a charm heh) is plenty to keep the mana bulb full, as long as the creatures aren't unleechable.

I only run out of mana on really long fights (solo baal, dclone, etc) or when I get swarmed by manaburners really fast. If it's a lot of manaburners, I just switch to double swing or use war cry to keep them locked down. If you like to solo a lot, try to get your warcry to a 3 sec -duration -especially for hell difficulty - you won't be sorry you did. Hope that helps.

P.S. Mace frenzy roxxors

[SgtPPS]

until I get the other stomlash..... is b. star a good weapon ?

[wisedoor]

Ok so if I have this right If I use Highlords then all i would have to do is sheal both stormlashes and then use a 15% ias in the helm.

NO! don´t shael both stormlashes. Shael your primary one and OHM/LO/BER your second one.
Frenzy and DoubleSwing take into account only the IAS in the primary weapon. Shaeling both of them is a waste.
Those skills work somewhat this way:
Sum the average WIAS to make the final WIAS that will make the breakpoints
Example:
Phase Blade (-30) + Hydra Edge (10) = (-10) breakpoints
Scourge (-10) + Scourge (-10) = (-10) breakpoints (same speed as above)

WIas somehow affect a lil bit the IAS table, so ALWAYS EQUIP THE FASTER WEAPON AS PRIMARY.
Then IGNORE completely the ias of the second weapon. only the Primary weapon IAS will be accounted to hit breakpoints.

For example
MY own last frenzy barb used a Shael Stormlash as primary and a Eternity Scourge as secondary weapon(huge dam).

[harbinger_00]

until I get the other stomlash..... is b. star a good weapon ?
B Star is nice imo. I used it and a Schaeffer's until I got a Stormlash. It's fast and the ele dmg helps with PI's.

[SgtPPS]

now I am confused do i or dont i sheal the 2nd stormlash when i get it ?

[Luna88]

About manaleech, on my 109 frenzy barb (have yet to make a 110 barb), i didnt have ml either, but i almost never ran out of mana because i used % dam to mana mod. with it, even manaburn monsters cant drain your mana anymore. naj plate has the mod, tals belt has it, and there are several others.

Luna

[koltrain]

this is how my barb is going to look, i figured it out and here is the equip that will get you to fastest frame rate using 2x stormlashes
Arrests (just cause)
2x stormlash (only need to shael primary or right one)
highlords
nos coild for ias and slow and life leech
draculs
rest is up to you

I have a dumb question: is the primary weapon side your right or the right of the chars prospective (ie: left )

[s4nder]

To my knowledge the primary weapon is the one you equip first and that's in your character's right hand.

[Grandar King of Trolls]

I believe that ias trick mentioned does work, but it is technically a bug. You could run into trouble if bliz ever patches again. Your call on that one. And yes, to get that trick to work, but the faster weapon in first on the left (right hand of your character) and the the slower one on the right (left hand of your character). At least that is what I have read about it. Never really tried it. My frenzybarb got tabled until I can find some decent weapons/runes for him. I think I want to do doom/beast, and that is a LONG way off.

I like bstar a lot, too. I think my buddy and I have 4 or so of them on NL. Point is, you can get them pretty cheap.

The point somone made about double swing and mana was a good one. Not only is double swing a synergy for frenzy, but after lvl 9 it is free, as I recall.

EDIT: I would drop the carrion for a dual leech or a manald heal if you still desperate for mana leech.

[jumbo_SHRIMP]

if you have double swing maxed for the frenzy synergy, you can just put that one on left click with frenzy on right, double swing gives you 2 mana back per attempt, so you dont need mana leech...

phelix

ps you need at least level 17 double swing to get the -2 cost

[Grandar King of Trolls]

I thought the -2 never worked and it just stayed free? Is that right? I can't speak from experience on this one.

[jumbo_SHRIMP]

it works, it just doesnt say it costs less(on the skill screen), but it gives you mana back

phelix

[SgtPPS]

this is how my barb is going to look, i figured it out and here is the equip that will get you to fastest frame rate using 2x stormlashes
Arrests (just cause)
2x stormlash (only need to shael primary or right one)
highlords
nos coild for ias and slow and life leech
draculs
rest is up to you

I have a dumb question: is the primary weapon side your right or the right of the chars prospective (ie: left )

well i am using 2 stormlashes now but i am not impressed ...... very very low damage.... takes forever to kill 2 monsters......my ar is about 80% i dont know if thats the problem i doubt it.