The Svennis scandal

[BenDover]

Don't know if you've heard about the "scandal" (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/soccer/08/01/bc.eu.spt.soc.england.fa.ap/index.html) with the English national football (soccer) coach, Sven-Göran Eriksson.

Well basically he did a "Clinton" with a female co-worker, and now he might have to leave his job. Not so much because he did it, but because at first he lied about it, and said he didn't do it.

I can see that it's an quite unfortunate thing to have done, but I really think this is a private matter between him and the co-worker, and, well, the other guy who has been with her as well. Sven-Göran is even a single guy currently, so it's not like he's cheating.

Your thoughts?

[tydon]

Well, if you cant learn from others mistakes, then maybe you dont deserve a job when you do things like that....

[Raistlin Majere]

they need a intern like the one in head of state. she is hired just to have sex with you. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[BenDover]

Well, if you cant learn from others mistakes, then maybe you dont deserve a job when you do things like that....

It's just that I don't really see why it matters to the public, what he did with his coworkers, as long as it wasn't some illegal.

[Drosselmeier]

It's just that I don't really see why it matters to the public, what he did with his coworkers, as long as it wasn't some illegal.

I totally agree.

This far I've made a point out of not learning the first thing about Svennis' private life. I've not been able to dodge the knowledge that he had some sort of love triangle going with Ulrika Jonsson and that Nancy chick, but that's all. I really don't care and I can't for the life of me understand why people want him fired because he sleeps around.

Why are people so obsessed with his lovelife? Any sane person who's seen a picture of that butt-ugly guy will keep sex and Svennis in non-connected compartments in their minds. I sure as hell don't want to think about it.

Is this one of those English things that are impossible for outsiders to understand?

EDIT:"Good personality"? (http://www.svd.se/images/ettan/040211/svennis_339x276.jpg)

[SaroDarksbane]

Yeah, I don't see the scandal here.

[ozz109]

Is this one of those English things that are impossible for outsiders to understand?

Kind of, I obviously can't comment on other countries but the English Football managers job is HUGE
And that comes with a big microscope hanging over your head with every move you make also his the first foriegn manager so he is under even more scrutiny with some saying he doesn't have the passion of what an English manager would have. You should have seen all the flags on peoples cars even a month before Euro 2004.Linky (http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/uk/newsid_2051000/2051902.stm)

It isn't rare for the Manager to be sacked for non Football matters.

Glenn Hoddle caused a deal of controversy during his career. He was derided by the national press for his insistence on using faith healer Eileen Drewery to guide his teams. In 1999 he was sacked as England manager after making public comments about disabled people that were deemed inappropriate and offensive.



Chief executive Mark Palios quit after claims the FA tried to keep his affair with a secretary quiet by exposing Eriksson's links with the same woman.

However, the Swede has said since that he has never confirmed nor denied the affair - suggesting that his "nonsense" description merely referred to his personal life being dragged into the public domain.

So the central question appears to be whether Eriksson lied to his bosses and exposed them when they were forced to issue a retraction to their initial denial of the story.

An independent lawyer will lead the inquiry which starts on Monday, with Eriksson due to give his evidence on Tuesday.

The lawyer will give his observations to the 12-man FA board on Thursday, leaving Eriksson's future in their hands.

The thing is we have a friendly in two weeks and then World Cup Qualifiers in a months time so if Sven was to be sacked it wouldn't be great timing.

[maccool]

I think the FA, the English press and the people ought to be more concerned with England's back line and the inconsistent play up top than who the manager slept with. But that's just me.

[BenDover]

I think the FA, the English press and the people ought to be more concerned with England's back line and the inconsistent play up top than who the manager slept with. But that's just me.


:thumbsup: I couldn't have said it better myself.

[tydon]

It's just that I don't really see why it matters to the public, what he did with his coworkers, as long as it wasn't some illegal.

It doesnt matter what he did. He lied about it.


Why did Clinton get in so much trouble over the Monica thing? Not because of the affair, but because he LIED.

If your stupid enough to think you can get away with lying to those who support you, then you dont desereve to have supporters.

[BenDover]

It doesnt matter what he did. He lied about it.


Why did Clinton get in so much trouble over the Monica thing? Not because of the affair, but because he LIED.

If your stupid enough to think you can get away with lying to those who support you, then you dont desereve to have supporters.

So what if he lied? Is he obligated to tell us about everything he does in his personal life?

Actually I'm not even sure he lied, after reading ozz109's post. Try to read the quote there.

[tydon]

So what if he lied? Is he obligated to tell us about everything he does in his personal life?

Actually I'm not even sure he lied, after reading ozz109's post. Try to read the quote there.

Sounds to me like he is trying to do what Clinton did. Clinton claimed he didnt know what sexual relations meant, and used that as his excuse. Probably what this guy is doing, just in a different way IMO.

Depends: He isnt obligated to tell anything about his personal life. But he isnt obligated to lie about it either. Lets say you tell one of your friends a secret from another friend you were not supposed to tell them. Your friend confronts you. You lie about telling the secret. Now, he finds out you actually did tell the secret. OR you just tell him you told the secret. Which would he be more angry about? You are not obligated to tell him anything, but by telling a lie, your friend now doesnt trust you...

[maccool]

Sounds to me like he is trying to do what Clinton did. Clinton claimed he didnt know what sexual relations meant, and used that as his excuse. Probably what this guy is doing, just in a different way IMO.

Well apart from the fact that Clinton lied under oath and in all the articles linked here, there is nothing substantiative, you're absolutely correct. This is exactly like what happened to Clinton.

I'm still wondering why the heck Rio Ferdinand isn't on the English national team. He really impressed me in the 2002 World Cup. Oh wait, he's suspended until next month. Color me out of the loop.