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-[$]tea|th-
30-07-2004, 22:50
This is just a rough over view

Gear
Shako
Highlords
Chaos
Duress
Upg Tucs
Drac's Gloves
Raven
BK/Soj
T-Gods
Upg Gores
Demon Limb on switch for prebuff Enchant (For AR and some Dmg)
10 Shadow Skill Charms (No, I dont have 10 yet... but I will)
1 Anni
9 Small +life/+Ar/+FHR/+FRW/Resistance

Skills
20 CM
20 Fade
20 SM
-After +Skills-
9 WB 60% Block
1 CoS +61% Def -66% Enemy Def
1 MB 5.6sec duration
1 MB
1 WoF
1+? BS
1+ DFlight

Venom w/ extra skill points? =/

Strat - this is just roughly what I'd be doing not sure how its going to work... afterall thats why I am posting.
Prebuff w/ Enchant
Cast Fade, SM and Blade Shield
Cast CoS
MB - cast trap for stun lock
DFlight/WW

Gobbla
31-07-2004, 04:03
im in the process of making a wwsin atm so im not an expert on the matter, but personally i would go with max venom over SM since thats a huge sorce of dmg. Generally a SM dies straight away and never inflicts any dmg, i see them only good against casters when they DFlight with u.

-[$]tea|th-
31-07-2004, 04:20
Have you been listening to the discussion in the What Armour for WWsin thread abotu venom? Venom is only good if you prebuff the hell out of it. And SM is extremely underrated in pvp especially at high lvls. Furthermore SM at high lvls in more surviable than you are, AND SM aids in stun lock.

Gobbla
31-07-2004, 04:30
ill read that threat now and get bak to u, and i only said that the SM is limited to caster duels because of his high resist. i found in my duels that the SM died straight away to melee duels and didnt inflicted any dmg.

CEG
31-07-2004, 04:54
I also will have to say that max venom instead of shadow master. I put 1 point in master but with prebuffing its level 21. MY maxed venom is level 40 when I prebuff it. As long as you got the right +skills and prebuff equip 1 point is all you need for a decent master. And a level 40 venom is 1100 or so damage (more if using trangs gloves and or bramble). That ammount of damage is a huge boost. And you still get a workeable SM. If you plan on being able to get 10 shadow skillers than this idea is somethign to consider.

Gobbla
31-07-2004, 05:29
another point about the SM is the fact on its equipment, i beleive by memory it recieves all its elite rare gear at lvl 17 (could be wrong), so there is no point in maxing it. The xtra life helps, but not by that much.

Also i read that threat on enigma vs bramble which was very enlightning, it seems u have choosen to go with a full dmg, ow, cs wwsin and ignoring venom, since ur not wearing the right equipment for venom. But venom is still usefull even without all the buff gear, even if it only adds 50dmg that is still 50 dmg which will help u kill faster.

ilkori
31-07-2004, 05:42
Did you read my damage calculations in the other WW thread? Poison does a significant amount of damage... even if it isn't buffed. Leaving it at base may work for you, but it would be completely new.

Also... Drac's... they're useless. Get Steelrends or crafted CB gloves. Life Tap does not trigger in WW.

Groovehawg
31-07-2004, 06:56
If you have the means, I'd suggest a second chaos over 'tucs. Unless, of course, you can't afford to lose the stat/skills boosts. And if your going to use 10 shadow charms, by all means, max venom.

I wouldn't say drac's are completely useless, as they do have handy strength boost and open wounds...but, yeah, rends or even trangs would be a better choice.

-[$]tea|th-
31-07-2004, 10:16
I also will have to say that max venom instead of shadow master. I put 1 point in master but with prebuffing its level 21. MY maxed venom is level 40 when I prebuff it. As long as you got the right +skills and prebuff equip 1 point is all you need for a decent master. And a level 40 venom is 1100 or so damage (more if using trangs gloves and or bramble). That ammount of damage is a huge boost. And you still get a workeable SM. If you plan on being able to get 10 shadow skillers than this idea is somethign to consider.
Venom goes through the 1/6 pvp penalty does it not? so that 1100 dmg is reduced to umm ~200 dmg? And then if the person has 75% res... well yeah thats not that much dmg. If all that is true venom is not good... but I guess its still up for debate and I will follow it closely. My thing is however, all my assassins have used BoS and Venom... was hoping to try something dif this time... Like Max Fade.

Gobbla- good point on the gear thing... I will definately take that into consideration.

Ilkori- Thank you for the info on Dracs. I actually picked them for the OW, but as I began thinking... OW lasts for 8 seconds and I'm pretty sure at 50%+ OW I can trigger it once every WW... and I had better be hitting atleast once every 8 seconds. So I will definately be throwing the Drac's out. Thanks

Groovehawg- I can see where you are going w/ the second chaos... I was actualy going to try fury, but they are just too expensive and I decided on Tucs mainly for the FHR. I will only have 40% FHR (from armour) w/o the tucs.

My other conern w/ this buil was the move speed. I do plan on using DFlight to get in range for WW, but what am I going to do to get DFlight in range? I am going to me damn slow. But the Max fade is pretty important for High DR and Res.

I suppose 10 SD charms would make more sense to max venom... I was also thinking DFlight, but that would not make too much sense.

You all have been very helpful pls keep the input coming.