4 vs 4 Clan Duels, My conclusion

[LordDrift]

i've organized many 4 vs 4 duels just for practice to see whats the best setup for a clan duel.

I took into consideration, elemental attacks, BO's, offensive & defensive strategys.

The best team ive dueled with so far is

Mage - Hybrid FOH/Hammer: Plays as the bodygaurd and damage increaser to a trap sin. The conviction aura will increase the damage of the traps while the Hammers can take out tankers as they try to close in.

Trapper - Lightning: Plays very defensively with its ally the Mage. Runs off to distance to mb lock people so his team can take out the character being locked on.

Barbarian - WW: Tele WW can be very dangerous, combined with the high skill level BO, this can be a deadly ally. Offensive Player

Necro Mancer - Bone: This is going to be first and foremost an offensive player, creating waves of ibs or spear sniping this is a foe to be reckoned with.

[Garbad_the_Weak]

Fire Trapper > Lit traper in that situation. One more elemetenal to stack/absorb against, better stun.

That is one of the best teams tho.

Garbad

[D1ce]

What realm are you on?

[LordDrift]

i'm on USWest S/C N/L

[Phyrexial]

Fire Trapper > Lit traper in that situation. One more elemetenal to stack/absorb against, better stun.

That is one of the best teams tho.

Garbad
I haven't seen any fire trappers doing enough damage to kill much. Since a level 1 WoF will stun as well as a level 40 WoF, why not just use 1 pt in WoF+MB to stunlock while using LS traps for the real damage.

[mepersoner]

...because then they have to stack against lightning AND fire because of FoH, plus fire traps do plenty of damage when paired with conviction.

[Dimoak]

Bone/Summon hybrid > Pure bone.

[mepersoner]

I could tell when we dueled.

[Dimoak]

I could tell when we dueled.
I wasn't at my best when we dueled mep.

Anyone who can win with a pure bone can win with half the damage, + a ton of meat shields who can also kill anyone stupid enough to let them hit.

[mepersoner]

I'd disagree, it mostly matters on the match I'd say.

[skilledlord]

Bone/Summon hybrid > Pure bone.

ppl using marrowwalks bug are pure bone and also have summons.

[Dimoak]

ppl using marrowwalks bug are pure bone and also have summons.
Might want to rethink that wording. 'Are pure bone, also have summons'.

[skilledlord]

let's seee..... pure bone means max pure damage? that would be marrowwalks bug, u have max damage plus summons. maybe u need to understand the bug.

[Dimoak]

let's seee..... pure bone means max pure damage? that would be marrowwalks bug, u have max damage plus summons. maybe u need to understand the bug.
No, pure bone means only skills the in the bone tree. I understand the bug perfectly. :)

[mepersoner]

let's seee..... pure bone means max pure damage? that would be marrowwalks bug, u have max damage plus summons. maybe u need to understand the bug.
Pure bone means they rely purely on bone skills, some mix in a point in clay golem and most use teleport, but they're still pure bone.

[LordDrift]

Summon Hybrid will be taken out easily by traps

[Dimoak]

Summon Hybrid will be taken out easily by traps
They'll actually be harder to take out than a normal boner.

[Garbad_the_Weak]

Its classic to watch a public summoner get infected by rabies. All thier hard work gone in seconds :D

Garbad

[LordDrift]

i seen bone hybrid summons get taken out by foh'rs easily, go dmg to undead :yep: :worship:

[Dimoak]

i seen bone hybrid summons get taken out by foh'rs easily, go dmg to undead :yep: :worship:
Funny cuz mine killed all foher unless they managed to namelock me.

[LordDrift]

well mage correction, foh when far then hammer field when near.

[Dimoak]

well mage correction, foh when far then hammer field when near.
Whole lot of mages dueling huh.

Stay out of foh range and spear/spirit them.

[mepersoner]

Yes, use theory to argue.

[Dimoak]

Yes, use theory to argue.
It's not theory, I have a summon/bone if you remember. Staying out of foh (and more importantly convic) range is easy with tele, and skellies have fairly good regen.

[dumbpig]

paladins cant beat summon stackers enough said....

[mepersoner]

It's not theory, I have a summon/bone if you remember. Staying out of foh (and more importantly convic) range is easy with tele, and skellies have fairly good regen.
Are you forgetting that paladins have the same FCR as necros?

[Dimoak]

Are you forgetting that paladins have the same FCR as necros?
They'd have to be rather fast to tele and then convic switch before the nec got out of range. Plus, not even a high def/block foh pally can stand up to amp + 16 skellies doing 900~ each, so simply amp/tele on them is still an option.

[LordDrift]

i beg to differ ive beaten hybrids, if they mess up and let mosnters wander, 1 foh and monsters dead

[HolyKnight_S]

A PURE Bone necro In my Opinion will kill a Bone/summon necro. Pure bone means they can still have 1 Skill in clay golem. They dish out a lotta damage. If you want we can test out who would win.

[HolyKnight_S]

But obviously people have different strategies and slightly diff builds... so... is hard to tell. This could not be judged by two people alone. How many Pure Bone necros have you fought, and I mean ones with 125 fast cast and enigma? And using marrowalk bug.

[LordDrift]

a lot, im involved with a lot of good necros

some necros i dueled include

Xe-Iron
Ai-Pkz
Ai-JLz
AH-Calix

and a whole buncha others that all use marrows, but i dont