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NBAallstar
28-07-2004, 08:42
1) What skills should I max, any one-point-wonders?

2) All into Vit or all into Dex?

3) I need to know the IAS table for bowzons(7 fps is what i want to achieve)

4) Post your pvp bowzon's stats(dmg, stat points, skills, life, gear, etc.. I NEED TO KNOW).

Thanks!

luis19
28-07-2004, 08:52
1)max ga, multi is optional but at least 10 in it. rest into passives.
1 pt wonders: valk, penetrate, pierce, slow missile, lighting bolt, jab

2) dex build is the way to go.

3) to get 7 frames u need 200 ias for a 0 speed bow (wards) or 147 for -10 speed bows (mats)

4) i dont feel like posting everything but ill post some of the stuff:
lvl 89
wf 8 frames: 1.5-6.4k dmg
cruel ward 7 frames: 2k-3.9k dmg
life: 1.5k after bo 2.3k

NBAallstar
28-07-2004, 09:00
Thanks. Is it impossible for WF to reach 7fps even with 160/60 and 125/45 + highlords + 20ias gloves? How much IAS is needed for a WF to reach 8 fps then? Also, what belt do you recommend? thanks again.

btw, Everything go into dex? or some into vit as well(1.5k base w/o any vit??).

luis19
28-07-2004, 10:34
i suggest aiming for like 1k vit before bo.

its impossible to reach 7 frames with wf.
u need 147 ias to reach 8 frames.

i reccomend verdungos for the belt.

NBAallstar
28-07-2004, 17:12
i suggest aiming for like 1k vit before bo.


I suppose this is solely relied on 3/20/20s? No vit whatsoever?

BTW, on the WF reaching 8 fps part, should I include the inherit 20 IAS on WF into the equation?

luis19
28-07-2004, 20:20
yes, include the wf speed, u might also want to shael or add a ed/ias jewel. and u dont necessarily need all 32020s to reach 1k life.
i think around 100 base vit and a few 20 life scs put me over 1k life.

Diablokgb
28-07-2004, 20:59
Thanks. Is it impossible for WF to reach 7fps even with 160/60 and 125/45 + highlords + 20ias gloves? How much IAS is needed for a WF to reach 8 fps then? Also, what belt do you recommend? thanks again.

btw, Everything go into dex? or some into vit as well(1.5k base w/o any vit??).

Actually it is possible, LOOK!

Helm= 120/45 ias
Amor= 160/60 ias
Ammy= Cats eye
Bow= shealed wf = 40 ias
sigons boots + gloves = 30 ias
Gold wrap = 10 ias

Add it all up and u get.......... 205 ias

"Its better to die on your feet, than to live on your knees"

NBAallstar
28-07-2004, 22:04
Actually it is possible, LOOK!

Helm= 120/45 ias
Amor= 160/60 ias
Ammy= Cats eye
Bow= shealed wf = 40 ias
sigons boots + gloves = 30 ias
Gold wrap = 10 ias

Add it all up and u get.......... 205 ias

"Its better to die on your feet, than to live on your knees"\

Damn.. I already got myself a +3 HOJ Mat Bow. I think that setup sacrafices too much Deadly strike though, w/ Highlords(30)+Hoj(20)+Gores(15), I get a sexy 65% DS :D.

LUIS, What do you mean by "rest into passives"? Which skills in the passives? I'm very new to zons :P

NBAallstar
28-07-2004, 22:07
upon further inspection.. Diablokb, 200ias is for 0 speed bows, Hydra's are 10 speed, impossible for 7fps.

Diablokgb
28-07-2004, 22:15
upon further inspection.. Diablokb, 200ias is for 0 speed bows, Hydra's are 10 speed, impossible for 7fps.

Oh woops, got my bows mixed up.......also isnt their a huge penalty for deadly strike when used with ranged weapons?

"Its better to die on your feet, than to live on your knees"

NBAallstar
28-07-2004, 22:22
Oh woops, got my bows mixed up.......also isnt their a huge penalty for deadly strike when used with ranged weapons?



I think that's Open Wound.. Can someone confirm this?

luis19
29-07-2004, 06:17
deadly strike works the same with range.
i think ow is nerfed a bit, but it works well enough that ppl claim i have a full inv of 290s when i kill em :P

NBAallstar
29-07-2004, 18:27
deadly strike works the same with range.
i think ow is nerfed a bit, but it works well enough that ppl claim i have a full inv of 290s when i kill em :P

What do you mean when you say "rest into passives"? Which ones should I max and which should I not touch?

luis19
29-07-2004, 20:45
dodge, avoid, critical are the ones u should concentrate on.
put a few on evade, but not as much as the others.

i suggest getting your passives to around these figures:
(d/a/e/c) 55/65/45/65
those figures are near maxed but u dont need to max the passives because @ near lvl 20, they give u like 1% ever 2 lvls.

i also highly recomend 3 points spent in the jav tree:
1 jab
1 lighting bolt + preq.
have titans/ss in ur stash vs melee pallys, ww barbs, and other zons.
even with max resist, lighting bolt still hurts and it will just destroy anyone with low resist.

Omikron8
29-07-2004, 21:09
You require 292% IAS for a 7 fps shot with a base 10 bow such as hydra bow. There is no way you will achieve this with any amount of IAS equipment, even a 6 shaeled hydra bow.

Caerbannog
30-07-2004, 08:37
You require 292% IAS for a 7 fps shot with a base 10 bow such as hydra bow. There is no way you will achieve this with any amount of IAS equipment, even a 6 shaeled hydra bow.

Helm= 120/45 ias
Amor= 160/60 ias
Ammy= Cats eye
Bow= shealed 6 sock hydra = 120% ias
sigons boots + gloves = 30 ias
Gold wrap = 10 ias

Add it all up and u get.......... 295 ias
Whoopsie.

EDIT: Yay, triple digit post amount :winner:

NBAallstar
30-07-2004, 08:57
Helm= 120/45 ias
Amor= 160/60 ias
Ammy= Cats eye
Bow= shealed 6 sock hydra = 120% ias
sigons boots + gloves = 30 ias
Gold wrap = 10 ias

Add it all up and u get.......... 295 ias
Whoopsie.

EDIT: Yay, triple digit post amount :winner:

That bow's pretty disgusting tho..

Mr.E
31-07-2004, 19:21
Unfortunately, that's also only 285% IAS, not 295%.

Omikron8
31-07-2004, 20:18
Unfortunately, that's also only 285% IAS, not 295%.

Zing!

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