ISO: Good PvP BOWZON Guide

[NBAallstar]

Can anyone point one out for me please? thanks.

[Caerbannog]

The only one I've seen included an enigma, bunch of dupes, and the user was banned or something :/
But basically...
20 GA, High Critical, Dodge, Avoid, Evade, rest in skill-of-choice, I'd get strafe for I am an idiot.
Lots of IAS, knockback is nice, unless you lag a lot and fear the displacement, don't use slow - that's just damn lame.

EDIT: Had a coffeebreak... :)
Anyways, Fine small charms are great, with nice dex they can give u quite a boost to damage, for str/dex/vita in general....
str = legendary enough for equip
dex/vita = pump one, have some of the other too :P

[~Kazama Fury~]

i might write a guide since ive just completed my bowazon. its a hybrid though in a way, since she utilizes GA and LB, both ITD attacks which gives me a huge variety of choice in gear and stat distribution, and somewhat retains its old school 1.09 zon builds.

just wondering if anyone is actually interested in it? last time i wrote a guide, it was for the druid forum, the flaming rabies, and its been nearly a year and i have yet seen it been put to the strat compedium, so i gave up on that. atleast if i know this guide can help the public, i might as well.

oh btw, my guide would not use dupes of any kind, but it may be harder for those who want to acquire its legit counterparts. Then again, i usually make guides that tries to have a huge variety of selection for the poor and the rich, as you could see in my previous guide.

i actually have 2 guides in mind, a GA/LB zon, and a plague/GA zon (but i think theres already a guide on that, so i dont want to seem competetive, so i might just leave that out).

oh for the time being, you can look for my thread in this forum, i am not sure where it is exactly now, but i marked up my whole build asking for zon help, a few weeks ago, yeah it actually took me that long to complete her cause i wanted her to be the best that she can be, so that required me to do some experience and field testing on wether which evades were appropriate, stat distributions, etc.

[leeye84]

i'm actaully really interested in a good pvp bowzon guide. I'm a big fan of bowazons, hehe....

[LovelyGods]

yea i am...

make a guide please..

ive NEVER seen a bow zon guide before at all.

at least not one that works...

[~Kazama Fury~]

theres been a few ive seen this forum, however, they relied in dupes, or some teleporting zon which really doesnt fit my dueling style. i duel mainly in ch, where these things arent allowed which promotes some type of balance and different builds.

since theres atleast one who wants a guide, i guess i can start, but first, i think i will update the flaming rabies guide first since ive noticed it sent to the SC and some of the info needs to be changed.

[rsxxx]

theres been a few ive seen this forum, however, they relied in dupes, or some teleporting zon which really doesnt fit my dueling style. i duel mainly in ch, where these things arent allowed which promotes some type of balance and different builds.

since theres atleast one who wants a guide, i guess i can start, but first, i think i will update the flaming rabies guide first since ive noticed it sent to the SC and some of the info needs to be changed.


I also am in a favor of a guide. Zon used to be my favorite character, but due to PI's and other factors, characters who depend on physical damage are just not "in" right now.

If your testing (I'd guess it will consist of actual pub dueling and priv dueling) is successful and your zon does quite well in PvP, I would REALLY REALLY appreciate your guide. I have a un-id'd WF waiting in my mule :wave:

[Caerbannog]

Oooo! I know, I could use my Zon Synergy javascript calculator that I finally got to work to find out a nice combo of skills... O_o
Except that it doesn't have passives.... or the arrow skills that don't have synergies...
But I think a good PvP zon would be something like
Charged Strike and it's friends as main attack,
a little Guided Arrow on the side,
Melt in a pot, add cream, then throw in the secret ingredient of
Dodge / Avoid / Evade / Crit Strike (no need for penetrate or pierce since both attacks ITD and don't really pierce? :) )

Don't know about the actual skill distribution / equip to get nice IAS for the bow while getting enough +skills to make CS a one hit wonder, 30% ias CoA maybe? Kaz u compile the guide, you already got your fury/rabies to strateg compedium, congrats :)

[YeaFU2Buddy]

a good tool for skills is www.d24u.com after it loads up on the upper right hand corner click on the skills button.

[wk_darkblade]

i suggest lighting cs java zon
20 points to charged strike
20 points to lighting strike
20 points to lighting fury
20 points to powerstrike
20 points to lighting bolt
and some points on passive skills
get thunderstroke and griffons with good coh with umed ss
jav glove would be helpful belt? t god for sure
and get enough like 10 jav gcs get mara to bost ur skills and get high resist
incase sorc or other jav zon
and after u achieve these u'll find ur cs strike just like mine"every bolt does 8k dmg
no one can survive in 3 strike execpt they got lighting obsorb

yah i got 8k dmg cs dig that

[Judgez]

i do 12*11 ^^ so ur 8 is rather lame :P

[LovelyGods]

i suggest lighting cs java zon
20 points to charged strike
20 points to lighting strike
20 points to lighting fury
20 points to powerstrike
20 points to lighting bolt
and some points on passive skills
get thunderstroke and griffons with good coh with umed ss
jav glove would be helpful belt? t god for sure
and get enough like 10 jav gcs get mara to bost ur skills and get high resist
incase sorc or other jav zon
and after u achieve these u'll find ur cs strike just like mine"every bolt does 8k dmg
no one can survive in 3 strike execpt they got lighting obsorb

yah i got 8k dmg cs dig that


Um, u missed the point. The point was a PvP Bow zon, not a java. Besdies Cs is weak, takes no Ar to hit, and it hits every time, unblockable.

[~Kazama Fury~]

i think the big question is, with so much damage, you will be a glass cannon, zons have evades that are very crucial in keeping them alive, why not take advantage of it? dueling is not all about how much damage you can pull a hit (IF YOU HIT), having evades grants you the chance and gives you a larger margin of error in sacrificing some damage. its like saying, i will max full str, no block on a barb/pally/druid to do more damage. having max block is crucial. atleast for private dueling. I have however made a few chars for pubs without max block, atleast 50%.

edit: ok i read the post a lil bit closer and i must say, where are you going to have the extra skill points?

also, gear wise, opting for more damage may not always be the good choice. in my personal experience, shako for a javazon is probably the best helm. cheap and effective. the only time i would probably switch helm for a javazon would be with a godly circlet, +2zon, 30%frw, stats, resists. however those are really hard to come by.

griffons is good on a light sorc because of the 25%fcr, which gives me just about enough to hit a nice bp for lightning.

zons with griffons isnt too important, except it makes zons look a lot better. :)

i personally prefer using upped titans over tstrokes anyday. the +2zon boosts evades and everything else, +2jav, ok so that evens out with tsrokes in a way. titans offers 40 stats, very nice. also, 30%frw, wow, run is very crucial for zons, 30frw is translated to 120 life in terms of charms, 40 stats offers an additional 120 life. replenish javs! neat! gives you a chance to use eth titans! what does tstrokes have? additional light damage, the ed isnt as great either (i am looking at using LF at times for the physical damage to counter someone who uses high light resistance).

[sk8brdnick]

How can LB be useful for pvp anymore? In 1.09 it was a great skill as it had low mana cost, ITD and passed on physical dmg. Now it's dmg is easily negated.

[StormFury]

Well i am on pvp bowazon now shes 65. I am a really fan of a bowazon. And i ve played for a long time i cannor write a guide but make sugguestions. first of all and the base is to aim 400-500 dex. about the skills:
max guided (the ultimate weapon of a pvp bowazon)
Max critical strike (very good skill realy!)
max multi or 15-20 (for the teleporters)
i am going to max dodge just incase of a charger so i can switch to titans/ss
additonal skills go to penetrate and decoy (decoy works very good)

[~Kazama Fury~]

How can LB be useful for pvp anymore? In 1.09 it was a great skill as it had low mana cost, ITD and passed on physical dmg. Now it's dmg is easily negated.
bad habit, i meant LF. LF = the 09 version of LB. and LF can bounce off walls, minions, players, that sometimes has its uses. if the LF pierces, a chance to do double damage. something LB didnt have in 1.09.

[Omikron8]

Well i am on pvp bowazon now shes 65. I am a really fan of a bowazon. And i ve played for a long time i cannor write a guide but make sugguestions. first of all and the base is to aim 400-500 dex. about the skills:
max guided (the ultimate weapon of a pvp bowazon)
Max critical strike (very good skill realy!)
max multi or 15-20 (for the teleporters)
i am going to max dodge just incase of a charger so i can switch to titans/ss
additonal skills go to penetrate and decoy (decoy works very good)

Dodge/Avoid > Multi

20 Critical is a waste

[~Kazama Fury~]

i didnt notice that, do not max multi, even during 1.09 when ppl had leech, they wouldnt max multi cause of the huge mana consumption.

[~Maf~]

Dodge/Avoid > Multi

20 Critical is a waste
Wtf ???
Avoid max 10 pts, Dodge/Evade max, CS max, GA max, multi 10-15, 1 valk decoy and penetrate ( try higher if u got any spare pts )

[Omikron8]

Have you seen the diminishing returns for avoid and evade. They are not worth taking past 50%. Critical strike gets such bad diminishing returns that it eventually doesn't even gain 1% per point.

[StormFury]

you know cs (critical strike) is really a powerfull skill... and even if i didnt give it to it what should you put it to??? and i forgot to tell i am a physical dmg pvp bowazon... so cs really works !~!

[Omikron8]

Well since most bowazons have titans + stormshield on switch, why not put some extra points into Jab. That or a point in lightning bolt for those idiots who move in a straight line towards you. I am not an idiot and know exactly what critical strike is and how it is useful for a physical damage bowazon. It just seems pointless to heavily invest in a skill that sharply diminishes in bonuses past level 13 or so.

[StormFury]

I never meant or mention that idiot thing, Sorry if i wrote so hard. I just felt defending CS cuz its a nice skill. So no offense please. By the way i also use titans/ss ofcourse to put points to jab and lightning bolt but how many to each. What would you recommend Omikron8??

Again sorry if i offended you....
Thanks all!!! :worship:

StormFury

[~Maf~]

For pvp every single % counts, besides u dont have other skills to put pts in.

[StormFury]

You are right Maf... You have choices to put skill into but it will weaken your pvp bowazon... i have 19 skill points that i havent used i maxed GA and CS. I was planing to max dodge. over all i have 6 to all skills so which one===>
maxing only dodge OR give dodge 6, avoid 7, evade 6 so it will be 12 (50%), 13 (60%), 12 (50%)... Which one would you prefer?!

[~Maf~]

Why max dodge ? Its the weakest "dodge" from these 3.
Imo 1 pt in dodge , and max evade/avoid but since u have only 18 pts to spare now i suggest avoid 8 , evade 10 or lvl ur char a bit and then max evade :)
GL with ur char

[sunami]

This is not a guide but this is my pure bowazon set-up, expencive, quite effective:

Coa-13 dr, 30 resist, 2x40/15 ias
Full plate of whale (heavy) 4x40/15 ias, 100 life
Shaeled wf
Cats
Verdung-15 dr, 31 vita
Dracs-11 str
Dire greaves-30frw,20 fhr, mucho resists
Raven and rune master
Cta and lidless on switch
Charms: 10x5 frw/5 resist,12x5/3/20,6x5fhr/resist, for pubs 11x290, anni-18/20

Skills:
ga-max
cs-max
d/a/e-14/14/20

Stats w/o gear—w gear:
Str—122---176
Dex—140—221
Vit—238—287
Life w bo—1756
Maxed resists
90% fhr
170 frw
ga dam—6880
8 fps attack

I do put on an OW set up sometimes—40/15 crow caw, umed wf, 9fps attack, can be quite effective and 7 fps set up w cruel ward of al…2x 40/15 ias, 120/45 helm, nos and 20 ias gloves (200ias). You are welcome to substitude "legit" jewels for the evil 40/15's. Guide: run, shoot, run some more.

[sunami]

correction: my life w bo is 2006.