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robin2010
25-07-2004, 18:00
hi, im new to this forum and i havent really gotten into asns till now and i want to make a wwsin, i am mostly trying to focus on melle duels.

1. Should i use bramble since the psn add and the thorns?
2.In this case should i use COH with 2 psn facets over shako
3.Shadow dancers or eth stormtrek?
4.2 angelic rings and angelic ammy? (if u have better suggest)
5. What kind of fury claws work best in weapin speed/dmg wize?
6. Why not use psn charms to increase psn dmg?

I am on hc btw if that changes strats.

raphiel20
25-07-2004, 18:15
i'd suggest reading the wwsin guide sticked on the top of the forum.
2: i'm guessing u mean COA (crown of ages) not COH (chains of honour)
and as for the poison charm question, the reason you dont use poison charms is because venom reduces all poison dmg to 0.4 sec so ifyou have a 290 that works over 10 sec divide that by 10 for 1 sec (29) then by 10 for 0.1 sec (2.9) then by 4 for the duration change of venom (11.6) so a 290 only actually adds 11.6 dmg when venom is active. this is why other elements or max/min dmg and life charms are alot more useful to a veom using sin.
well hope that all made sense and helped even a little :scratch:
(sorry about the math if its alittle off but i'm in a rush o my way out lol)

l8rs :howdy:

raph

TJTG
25-07-2004, 19:08
I am on hc btw if that changes strats

Take a page from a barb - WATCH OUT FOR IRON MAIDEN. I've lost count of how many barbs I've seen die WW-ing mid-IM, granted you are a sin and damage is much lower, but it's still something to be concerned about especially if you're PvMing and often WW through many monsters.

You may also consider making a WW/Trap hybrid if you have the gear...

robin2010
25-07-2004, 21:04
wopes typo, heh im use to saying coh. thx for the psn charm explaintion rep

ttd-gap
26-07-2004, 01:56
hi, im new to this forum and i havent really gotten into asns till now and i want to make a wwsin, i am mostly trying to focus on melle duels.

1. Should i use bramble since the psn add and the thorns?
2.In this case should i use COH with 2 psn facets over shako
3.Shadow dancers or eth stormtrek?
4.2 angelic rings and angelic ammy? (if u have better suggest)
5. What kind of fury claws work best in weapin speed/dmg wize?
6. Why not use psn charms to increase psn dmg?

I am on hc btw if that changes strats.

1. YES bramble adds tons of damage. It is the hands down best ww sin armor.
2. Shako > COA for a ww sin. Another option is an 08 valk wich seems to work really well vs casters. Switch to shako vs melee though. COA requires way too much str to be a viable option in my opinion.
3. I prefer soul spurs over either of those boots. Shadow dancers are cool but they have too high a str req in my opinion.
4. Dont use angelics unless your up against a melee char. And even in that situation I still prefer 2xravens +storm hide (duped sin amy) or maras.
5. Any claw capable of getting 3 sockets will hit the last breakpoint for speed. That being said suwayyah are really your best bet.
6. Exactly as explained above. Use shadow gcs (I suggest 10 of them) to boost your venom damage. Remaind of your inventory should be anni and 9x max/ar/life charms, res/life charms, or res/frw charms.

robin2010
26-07-2004, 05:13
1. YES bramble adds tons of damage. It is the hands down best ww sin armor.
2. Shako > COA for a ww sin. Another option is an 08 valk wich seems to work really well vs casters. Switch to shako vs melee though. COA requires way too much str to be a viable option in my opinion.
3. I prefer soul spurs over either of those boots. Shadow dancers are cool but they have too high a str req in my opinion.
4. Dont use angelics unless your up against a melee char. And even in that situation I still prefer 2xravens +storm hide (duped sin amy) or maras.
5. Any claw capable of getting 3 sockets will hit the last breakpoint for speed. That being said suwayyah are really your best bet.
6. Exactly as explained above. Use shadow gcs (I suggest 10 of them) to boost your venom damage. Remaind of your inventory should be anni and 9x max/ar/life charms, res/life charms, or res/frw charms.

Well if i get the str, i can use coa and shadow dancers, would it b worth it?

Zangeif
26-07-2004, 18:36
I would suggest using bramble for prebuff, then switching to Nats armor with 3 facets.

Bramble adds 50% poison damage when buffing venom, then when you wear it, it adds another 50%

If you wear nats after bramble, you are losing 35% of that bonus, but you get +2 skills, life more defense, and the - poison resistance is HUGE. For example, if your opponent has 95% poison resist, and you give him -5%, you do 10% damage instead of 5%. This is TWICE as much damage.

ttd-gap
28-07-2004, 18:20
I would suggest using bramble for prebuff, then switching to Nats armor with 3 facets.

Bramble adds 50% poison damage when buffing venom, then when you wear it, it adds another 50%

If you wear nats after bramble, you are losing 35% of that bonus, but you get +2 skills, life more defense, and the - poison resistance is HUGE. For example, if your opponent has 95% poison resist, and you give him -5%, you do 10% damage instead of 5%. This is TWICE as much damage.

35% of your venom damage is a lot, venom is where most of your damage comes from since it does not go through the pvp penalty. Also facet -res only works if your oponent does not have stacked res wich against a good opponent will deffinatly have. Bramble in a good armor has higher def than nats. Also Nats has a high str req for a good ww sin.

Go low str. The bonus of using shako, bramble, and boots such as soul spurs is much better than using coa, nats armor, and shadow dancers. My sin has 3.8k life with the low str setup and is doing 5k damage, 3k of which is venom.

robin2010
28-07-2004, 18:55
well i dont have these duped boots since i am on classic, so my next choice could b eth stormtrek?

squigipapa
28-07-2004, 21:02
35% of your venom damage is a lot, venom is where most of your damage comes from since it does not go through the pvp penalty.


What the hell is this? Venom dosen't go through the pvp penalty? So you meen that 1.8 to 2k damage I'm doing with venom is pure .. no pvp penalty .. I find that a little hard to believe.. do you have anything to back that up, just asking because I've never heard of this..

squigipapa
28-07-2004, 21:10
Sorry Double post .. this forum is ****ed up. .. an error every second submit.

Zangeif
28-07-2004, 21:59
They often don't have stacked res.

If they have 95 poison res, and you give them -5% it is the same as increasing your poison damage by 100%

-15% and you increase it by 300%

Not to mention you also get +15% poison skill dmg (only 35 less than bramble), +2 skills and a lot of like from nats armor.