Which armor is better for BvB...

[thesecondrei]

Duress or eth steel carapace?

[luis19]

i would use duress.
carapace gives u good d thou.
other than that its really not that good of an armor. high req, expensive if eth near perf. hell id even take valor over carapace.

[Dimoak]

My dream bvb armor is a 4 soc sacred eth that someone zod/cham/etc jeweled in 09, then unsoc and make an eth zod bug stone. Too bad it'll never happen.

[mepersoner]

Today Garbad told me for an item to be zod bugged it had to be desocketed within the first week of 1.10. I thought it just had to be socketed within that time.

Help?

[oscarmk1]

Today Garbad told me for an item to be zod bugged it had to be desocketed within the first week of 1.10. I thought it just had to be socketed within that time.

Help?

Erm i still DONT understand why in the hell do we even allow people to talk about bugged items, not to mention USE them in CH.

Now you can sit here talking to me all day about how its blizzard fault that this zod bugged items exist, and hence they are not "really" bugged, but its a "glitch" in the game , yeah ok...

[Dimoak]

Erm i still DONT understand why in the hell do we even allow people to talk about bugged items, not to mention USE them in CH.
Em, onoes? It's not like a zod 'bugged' stone would be a huge factor in CH duels.

[oscarmk1]

Em, onoes? It's not like a zod 'bugged' stone would be a huge factor in CH duels.

Yeah of course not, what the hell was i thinking right?.

[mepersoner]

Hey Oscar, did you ever use BoS in 1.09? How about any of the masteries? How about the eth rune? How about leech in p v p?

All bugged.

[Dimoak]

Hey Oscar, did you ever use BoS in 1.09? How about any of the masteries? How about the eth rune? How about leech in p v p?

All bugged.
Leech and bos were bugged?

[oscarmk1]

Hey Oscar, did you ever use BoS in 1.09? How about any of the masteries? How about the eth rune? How about leech in p v p?

All bugged.

Yes, but you are talking about overall aspect of the game bugged, those we cant do anything about them, i am talking about bugged items, which as you can see are very different things.

[Slipin]

No, there not different at all, It was a fault on blizz, the players had nothing to do with it but unsocking the item.

[Garbad_the_Weak]

We have argued a lot about the zod bugged items. I don't think it affects balance badly (it might even help certian sins) and the vote was too close to call. I can see why people say its hypocritical, but w/e I suppose.

Garbad

[LLD-Vampire]

LOL garbad I just read your sig, you can get people banned if they cuss you out?!

*goes off to take massive screen shots of idiots in baal runs*

[oscarmk1]

No, there not different at all, It was a fault on blizz, the players had nothing to do with it but unsocking the item.

Well they are extremly different, you see a bug in game play everyone benefits from it right?, but not everyone benefits from the bugged items. And while its true that this bug was blizz fault, well let me ask you a question isnt then all bugs basically blizzard fault because they didnt do anything to stop them?. I mean when hex where created for instance, well the players also had to do something(more complex thatn unsocketing but its still the same concept), now the fact that blizzard couldnt stop it from happening, does that make it blizz fault?.

[Frisky]

Today Garbad told me for an item to be zod bugged it had to be desocketed within the first week of 1.10. I thought it just had to be socketed within that time.

Help?

It was patched the 2nd day of 1.10. The item needs to have been socked with a Zod in '09 or the first day of 1.10 in order to remain indestructible with the zod cleaned out. Has nothing to do with the timing of desocketing.

[soulesschild]

It was patched the 2nd day of 1.10. The item needs to have been socked with a Zod in '09 or the first day of 1.10 in order to remain indestructible with the zod cleaned out. Has nothing to do with the timing of desocketing.

WHAT?!?!?! GARBAD TOLD ME LIES THEN!

GARBAD!!!!!!!! >:O

[thesecondrei]

...so which armor is better for bvb...

[LLD-Vampire]

...so which armor is better for bvb...
Well I mean what kind of other items do you have? I'de go with duress but I'm a noob with barbs, most of all barb vs barb

[dumbpig]

first is upgraded toothrow with 40 ed jewel (1.8 def, open wounds, 50 ed)

second is etheral duress (2k def, open wounds, 20 ed)

third is a zod bugged arkaine valor (2.2 def, 66% ed)

four is a etheral toothrow zodded (1.2k def, open wounds)

fifth is a eth carapace (2.5k def)

[Slipin]

Well they are extremly different, you see a bug in game play everyone benefits from it right?, but not everyone benefits from the bugged items. And while its true that this bug was blizz fault, well let me ask you a question isnt then all bugs basically blizzard fault because they didnt do anything to stop them?. I mean when hex where created for instance, well the players also had to do something(more complex thatn unsocketing but its still the same concept), now the fact that blizzard couldnt stop it from happening, does that make it blizz fault?.

Well, if you want to get really picky A synergy bug say from marrowwalks isn't much different as a zod bugged as you need money or some form of tradables to get either, the difference is zod bugged items are worth tons more, and can no longer drop anymore. Hacks such as hex's and ith's totally unbalanced 09 public dueling, where zod buggeds only have a slight advantage of 100-300 def give or take. As for it being blizz fault from preventing hex's, that would also make it there fault for the MHs/dupers/bots more so then the people using them. I have a zod bugged shaft I don't even bother using because a regular up'd shaft has so much more defence. When you look at about 600 def on a reg shaft, 900-1000 on a eth, and 1500 up'd, It would seem up'd items are far more unbalancing then zod bugged. I also thing many legit items are far more unbalancing (I.E Enigma, BotD, CtA, HotO). Well, I'm done ranting...my brain hurts.