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Baboon
21-07-2004, 00:13
Hey guys,

I returned to the necro forum, and to the chararcter I think I know at least better than the other chars. Had some fun with assasins and amazones, both hybrid builds all the times since I hate doing the same thing all over.

I'm in ladder2 now, did a tesladin (didn't work for me) some hybrid amazons (fun but I really hate having to repair my javelin all the time) and a dtalon/trap assasin (that one is great but I played it too often already).

So I had to build a necro again. Problem was I played about every necro there is. Didn't know any better thing to do though.

I sent my highest char out to get some rare necro stuff. She found some good rares but also a Demon Machine. Then it came to me. Wasn't this the ultimate necro bow?

It had something to do with crushing blow and so, but I'm pretty sure that won't work with the exploding arrows in 1.10. I looked around for a guide but I couldn't find it. Anyone has played a bow necro recently?

My idea is an incredible amount of minions and my neccy using this bow, not in need of any AR since whis bow fires Exploding arrows.

Any suggestions? Thanks...

Necrochild313
21-07-2004, 01:14
I've played the bownecro quite a bit in 1.09, I've yet to try it in 1.10. Fearox would probably someone to contact as I believe he is writing a guide for the bow necro.

My favorite weapon was a buriza (good damage, great with a might merc), and I'd like to try another buriza wielding necro for 1.10, this time with an upgraded buriza *cackles* and skellies. The pdagger bug is always there for insane AR bonus if you want to go down that path don't forget.

I can't recall exactly but I dont' think the exploding arrows from demon machine "always hit" anymore for some reason.

gvandale
21-07-2004, 16:43
I can't recall exactly but I dont' think the exploding arrows from demon machine "always hit" anymore for some reason.
afaik,
the 'arrow' doesn't hit, but the splash damage on the explosion does.

g

Baboon
21-07-2004, 20:27
thanks both, I'll give it a try anyway, if I fail I still have some decent skelliemancer :)

Baboon
21-07-2004, 21:23
Well just someone gave me a hellrack for my tarnhelm, so I'm not afraid of doing too little damage anymore :lol:

Too bad it's level 76 and 163 str or something. I could add two hel's to lower the str but I might be wasting it. It seems to me this thing is worth something but the guy that wanted the tarnhelm probably thought different.

I could also shael-shael it ofcourse. But I have time, my necro is level 4 at the moment :)

ApocalypseRat
22-07-2004, 02:50
Amozonecro??????????

thats sooo frekin cool but i thought the puss spitter was the best necro bow
ive never heard of the deamon machine

a little hlp here

thx

Chinesef00d
22-07-2004, 03:11
There is a similar thread in the Barb Strat forum. I would recommend.....THE WIDOWMAKER!!!

WidowMaker
Ward Bow
Two-Hand Damage: (50-60) To (132-159) (91-109.5 Avg)
Required Level: 65
Required Strength: 72
Required Dexterity: 146
Base Weapon Speed: [0]
+150-200% Enhanced Damage (varies)
Ignore Target's Defense
33% Deadly Strike
+3-5 To Guided Arrow (varies)
Fires Magic Arrows [Level 11]

ITD guys, +3-5 to Guided Arrow guys and it has 33% Deadly Strike!!! Take that you Fallen!!!!

Baboon
23-07-2004, 11:21
There is a similar thread in the Barb Strat forum. I would recommend.....THE WIDOWMAKER!!!

WidowMaker
Ward Bow
Two-Hand Damage: (50-60) To (132-159) (91-109.5 Avg)
Required Level: 65
Required Strength: 72
Required Dexterity: 146
Base Weapon Speed: [0]
+150-200% Enhanced Damage (varies)
Ignore Target's Defense
33% Deadly Strike
+3-5 To Guided Arrow (varies)
Fires Magic Arrows [Level 11]

ITD guys, +3-5 to Guided Arrow guys and it has 33% Deadly Strike!!! Take that you Fallen!!!!

So you actually can use the guided arrow while being not an amazon? :)

edit: I see, there's no amazon only text on it. Now, probably noone will trade this for my hellrack I suppose :grrr:

JoJeck
23-07-2004, 12:35
So you actually can use the guided arrow while being not an amazon? :)

edit: I see, there's no amazon only text on it. Now, probably noone will trade this for my hellrack I suppose :grrr:Yes they are called +Oskills that any character can use. What is more if you have + All Skills (i.e. shako, Lore, mara or soj) you can add to +Oskills. It is a fairly low damage bow unfortunately, but ITD and Guided Arrow solve the AR problem most necros have with a bow or xbow.

A Bow armed necro won't be doing much damage compared to a real Bowazon with her critical strike and very high dexterity (mine on old ladder had 410 dex) but of course you get a nice bunch of minions and curses to help.

Baboon
23-07-2004, 12:45
Yes they are called +Oskills that any character can use. What is more if you have + All Skills (i.e. shako, Lore, mara or soj) you can add to +Oskills. It is a fairly low damage bow unfortunately, but ITD and Guided Arrow solve the AR problem most necros have with a bow or xbow.

A Bow armed necro won't be doing much damage compared to a real Bowazon with her critical strike and very high dexterity (mine on old ladder had 410 dex) but of course you get a nice bunch of minions and curses to help.

I think I will try to get some Crushing Blow, I don't need much damage at all then and the skeletons will get the kill. I think I can get about 200 dex, since I don't need any other stat except vitality.

San
23-07-2004, 13:44
Hey guys,

...a Demon Machine. Then it came to me. Wasn't this the ultimate necro bow?

It had something to do with crushing blow and so, but I'm pretty sure that won't work with the exploding arrows in 1.10. I looked around for a guide but I couldn't find it. Anyone has played a bow necro recently?

My idea is an incredible amount of minions and my neccy using this bow, not in need of any AR since whis bow fires Exploding arrows.

Any suggestions? Thanks...

demon machine doesn't have enough damage, or attack speed, in my oppinion. tested it with a freezing arrow/strafe bowazon.. even a skystrike with a shael might be better.. and crushing blow with an edge bow with 50% faster attack speed :thumbsup:

Necrochild313
23-07-2004, 17:41
or attack speed

I must highly disagree with you there, it's very easy to hit 10 fpa with a demon machine.

OldSkoolGamer
23-07-2004, 18:55
:grrr:

I miss my playing 1.09 Bow Nec. He was so great in cows.

The Demon Machine/Crushing Blow combo was so great with 1.09 Bone Prisons.

Now he's just a level 87 mule. :rant:


If I ever come across a cheap Widowmaker, I may try it out on him. It would be pretty nice with Skeletons, but he has max Iron Golem. :cheesy:

Baboon
24-07-2004, 02:59
:grrr:

I miss my playing 1.09 Bow Nec. He was so great in cows.

The Demon Machine/Crushing Blow combo was so great with 1.09 Bone Prisons.

Now he's just a level 87 mule. :rant:


If I ever come across a cheap Widowmaker, I may try it out on him. It would be pretty nice with Skeletons, but he has max Iron Golem. :cheesy:

Come on, rebuild it ;)
I'm going to try either my hellrack with an eth and a hel in it or a widowmaker if I can get that thing. I'm assuming that the poisondagger 'bug' is no longer available.

OldSkoolGamer
24-07-2004, 05:39
Come on, rebuild it ;)

Maybe after I finish my vita Bone Nec.

I'm assuming that the poisondagger 'bug' is no longer available.

I know that Mantis tested it with melee attacks. The results of his testing leaned towards proving that it does still work. I don't think he tested it with ranged attacks though... :scratch:

Mad Mantis
24-07-2004, 14:37
I don't think he tested it with ranged attacks though... :scratch:

No, I haven't tested it with ranged weapons. But you could easily replicate the test.

Chinesef00d
24-07-2004, 17:44
With a bow Necro I wouldn't recommend trying to achieve the highest damage but to acheive a high attack speed.