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Please don't misunderstand me, he is quite effective but I just havn't been able to decide which way to go to make him as good as possible.
Level 88
Gear
Kuko/eaglehorn (both shaeled)
razortail
gorerider boots
highlords ammy
ravenfrost/bk rings
lionheart armour
lavagout gloves (for the AR enchant gives)
I have great charms (thank you Radagast)
helm (well I have 2 different ones and Lifepincher wanted either, but we are on different realms so I think I'm good there) :thumbsup:
He's non ladder and I have enough equipment to give him nearly anything, but, please don't suggest high end runewords (runes I'm poor on).
Stats (with gear)
Strength about 130
dex about 200
vit about 160
Skills
maxed dire and grizzly
level 26 oak with gear (13 base I think)
ravens and spirit wolves got one pt base (both around 13 with gear)
cyclone armor 2 or 3
Now the fun part for the participants and I hope some of the old school Hunter Gurus like Fenriswolf and Lifepincher will respond..........
He has 145 unused stat points and 35 unused skill points :surprise:
So let the hunter suggestion free for all start!!
Sorry, forgot the merc
Act 2 might merc
Eth bonehew (shael/amn)
Eth shaftstop
Blackhorns face (and I'm already planning on replacing this since the bonehew makes it sort of redundant)
Thanks for the replies,
Joshua
How much life you have? How much life can you live with? Since you are using oak I guess you have at least 1,200 life or there abouts. Also since you are using oak your ar and damage will be lower so I would look into putting at least 4 of every 5 of those remain stat points into dex. brings up your damage and more important your ar.
merc is fine
gear is great almost what I use though I use Jalal's and rare 20ias, +5 str +15 dex with fire and light res gloves. On the switch I am using a shield and will use ethereal lacerator and I am hoping the amp will help my might merc and bear against pi monster in hell. This is something new I am trying this huntermentalist is lvl 65 act 1 hell my old huntermentalist is lvl 98.
Are you going to remain a hunter? If so put them into oak, poison creeper and/or spirit wolves for the ar to your bear. If you want to become a huntermentalist then look at investing into fissure and/or volcano. This adds some variety to your attack.
Beo,
With oak I have a little over 2K life.
I did spend one point in HOW early on and have been running with it a bit lately (with the ups its level 13). I have thought of maxing this but, thats 19 pts to spend.
I forgot to mention 1 point in PC and carrion vine. How many points does creeper need to be effective (I've noticed a lot of discussion regarding PC lately, but didn't read the 4+ pages of posts sorry).
I have also thought of a lacerator but have yet to find one.
Any recommendations for merc's helm? I was thinking crown of thieves, rockstopper, or a gaze.
Thanks Beo, keep the ideas comming guys...
What is your damage with eagle and your ar? I didnt mention HoW for the remaining points since most people only max one sage....if you are a pure hunter then yes you could have a high lvl HoW to go with a high lvl oak....never hurts and is great when in party with other druids. You could use poison creeper but it would require you to really max it from what I read to make it really effective.
eaglehorn dmg = 173-1109 / AR = 1733
kuko dmg = 148-563 / AR = 1080
and yes, these numbers do bother me a bit, they seem very low.
For the record, I have Patriarched him (at about level 75), but I seem to enjoy playing him more than any of my other chars, so I thought I'd ask for advice on ramping him up a bit.
Ill give you an idea of what I have done so far
lvl 65 huntermentalist Hector_bane
uses silence crusador bow
stats are 123-230-195-50
res in hell are: 75-73-75-65
life: 852
reg damage: 272-1011 ar: 1861
with might merc: 362-1381
HoW and might: 471-1828 ar: 4746
fissure does: 538-573
voclano does: 404-410
lvl 24 HoW
lvl 31 bear has 2762 life and 2490-2618 damage before HoW and might merc
lvl 63 might merc 1162 life
uses vamp, etheral dureils shell
curel lance of the locust for now
856-2955 damage with might and HoW
What are you using to get your resists that high? Mine are much lower.
If I use oak I don't have any problems with that, but when I'm using HOW it can be a real problem.
What are you using to get your resists that high? Mine are much lower.
If I use oak I don't have any problems with that, but when I'm using HOW it can be a real problem.
Simple enough
jalal's 30
silence 75
lionheart 30
rare ammy 10
and a few others here and there. Once I add anni which is +10 res all and +10 from act 5 anya and change to +30 all mara I will have great hell res.
Fallen Creation
21-07-2004, 06:13
I don't know too much about hunters, but couldn't you use a Widowmaker bow to solve your AR problem?
PyroStock
21-07-2004, 06:15
Eaglehorn & Widowmaker both have ITD, but ITD doesn't work on Act Bosses.
Fallen Creation
21-07-2004, 06:16
Guided Arrow's ITD doesn't work on Act Bosses?
Also, widomaker is ladder only. I rarely trade, and I started this char in 1.09 and havn't played ladder at all.
IntemptestaNox
21-07-2004, 08:16
Guided Arrow's ITD doesn't work on Act Bosses?
ITD doesn't work on bosses, period. You'll need AR for them.
PyroStock
21-07-2004, 11:02
lionheart armour
+20% Enhanced Damage
Requirements -15%
+25 To Strength
+10 To Energy
+20 To Vitality
+15 To Dexterity
+50 To Life
All Resistances +30%
Personally, I would dump Lionheart for a Jeweler's Whale.
The Whale suffix covers Lionheart's life bonus. In fact since BO & OakSage don't boost life from items that grant VIT, Whale90 > Life+50 & VIT+20, in fact with your Maxed OakSage even Squid might suffice. Next I don't see *any* items you have that require 130STR, so the +25 STR on Lionheart is literally doing nothing for you. And I doubt you'll miss 10 Energy, even if you became a huntermentalist. So what to do with the 4 sockets? Let's say you want to keep your 30% Resist so you use 2 Ums. Since you're on the realms, I'm sure you could find/trade for one 35%ED/15IAS jewel to cover the 20%ED & damage gained from the 15DEX for the 3rd slot. For the 4th slot, if you're worried about missing the 60AR that the 15DEX gives use an Argent Jewel of Fervor since that gives 61-100AR. Now if you're richer than I thought instead of 2 Ums earlier use 2 Perfect Scintillating Jewels of xxxxxx (whatever you want).
Even if you cannot get all those exact jewels or Um runes, I still think you'll be better off since you can custom make the armor to exactly what you find important be it Damage, Resists, AR, IAS, etc. You also go from a bland grey armor to a blood red (via the Whale). Huge cool points. :cool:
You gain...
with only 2 IAS jewels your attack speed on Eaglehorn goes from 13fpa(40IAS) to 11fpa(70IAS). Kuko goes from 12fpa to 11fpa, add another 5%IAS somewhere, like an IAS jewel in your helm, & Kuko goes to 10fpa (that's 2.5 attacks per second instead of 2attacks per second you are at now).
Spirit Forge has 2 sockets (Best case = 2 Perfect Scintillating of Fervor would give 30IAS & 30All Resist), fire damage for Kuko, even more life than whale, and a nice defense boost (after upgraded) for defense fans, but I personally still prefer a Jeweler's Whale. Lionheart is nice, but in the long run I think you'll find a Jeweler's Whale or another armor better.
I still prefer my lionheart.....I have tried a few different armors and not beat it so far.
ITD doesn't work on bosses, period. You'll need AR for them.
guided arrows' ITD works on bosses, period. you don't need AR when using guided arrow.
I do not think I would like to have a bow with guided arrow...would make me feel to much like a more powerful zon :lol: then again I would be interested in trying it once to see how well it does.
Soepgroente
21-07-2004, 15:08
GA is auto-hit, not ITD. ITD doesn't work on bosses. With ITD you still only hit 95% of time, auto-hit (like smite, guided arrow) you hit 100% of the time.
IntemptestaNox
21-07-2004, 18:00
Hah, I was right :lol:
Fallen Creation
21-07-2004, 18:32
K, thanks for the GA info.... I do believe I have a Widowmaker on a mule somewhere.... guess it's time to start a hunter.....
Guided Arrow's ITD doesn't work on Act Bosses?
ITD doesn't work on bosses, period. You'll need AR for them.
Hah, I was right
you need AR to hit bosses while using GA? yeah, you were right indeed... :lol:
Guided arrows' "ITD" instead of "auto-hit", well, a matter of words.
But anyway, Fallencreation specified he was talking about GA, so on the principle your answer was wrong anyway, as well as the tone of it, "period".
PyroStock
21-07-2004, 20:16
I still prefer my lionheart.....I have tried a few different armors and not beat it so far.
That's fine, especially if one is using the +25STR or +15DEX to hold equipment (Joshua was not) or cannot afford good jewels, runes, and Jeweler's Whale. Otherwise, Lionheart offers nothing that a Jeweler's Whale couldn't do better.
That's fine, especially if one is using the +25STR or +15DEX to hold equipment (Joshua was not) or cannot afford good jewels, runes, and Jeweler's Whale. Otherwise, Lionheart offers nothing that a Jeweler's Whale couldn't do better.
I am still trying to see what combo of jewels could beat my lionheart in an armor of the whale (and I have a clean +96 life one) and still cannot think of anything that I could socket for my huntermentalist.
IntemptestaNox
21-07-2004, 20:28
ITD doesn't work on bosses. IF GA hits bosses without factoring in AR, it's auto-hit. I didn't say that the "ITD doesn't work on bosses. Period." comment applied to GA, either. I just pointed out that ITD won't work on bosses.
*grumblespoilsportgrumble*
PyroStock
21-07-2004, 20:49
I am still trying to see what combo of jewels could beat my lionheart in an armor of the whale (and I have a clean +96 life one) and still cannot think of anything that I could socket for my huntermentalist.
If you are using the STR or DEX to hold equipment then you might want to keep your Lionheart. If you are not...
Lionheart benefits ------------------------>Jewels and Runes
+20% Enhanced Damage = Jewel #1
Requirements -15% = Useless (or use Scintillating Jewel of Freedom for Jewel #3)
+25 To Strength = Useless
+10 To Energy = Not significant to a hunter
+20 To Vitality = Whale (96)
+15 To Dexterity = Jewel #1 and Jewel #2
+50 To Life = Whale (96)
All Resistances +30% = 2 Um runes or 2 Scintillating Jewels
Sockets in Jeweler's Whale...
Jewel #1 = 35%ED/15IAS
Jewel #2 = Ardent Jewel of Fervor (61-100AR/15IAS)
2 Um runes or 2 Scintillating Jewels
You lose... nothing.
You gain... 30%IAS, more life (especially after OakSage), whatever second mods are on the 2 scintillating jewels above.
Concerning the armour choice and amount of strength he has....his name might explain it.
LD_ted nugent. He was a creation from the old ld days and most of his equipment was self found until about level 70.
I had fully intended to keep the pure hunter theme "ala fenriswolf" of no metal besides jewelry, but that became a tad difficult :rant:
I think I will post his base stats in a bit..I'm sure that the bonuses I get from equipment are confusing some issues :scratch:
But, I do appreciate the ideas this thread is generating.
Str. 96
Dex. 109
Vit. 160
Dreamsmith
24-07-2004, 05:21
I did spend one point in HOW early on and have been running with it a bit lately (with the ups its level 13). I have thought of maxing this but, thats 19 pts to spend.
Worth it, IMHO. Life is nice, but in this game, "Damage is King". Are your nearly dieing often? Heck, are you nearly dieing ever? I find as a hunter, with my animal allies out, and me behind it all with a bow, ready to dodge ranged counterattacks, I almost never get hit... I also dump everything I can spare into DEX. It boosts your damage. I damage things continuously. VIT helps you when you get hit. I rarely ever get hit. Too much VIT is wasted on a hunter. OTOH, you do get hit from time to time, so you don't want it too low, either. My stats: STR 90, DEX 240, VIT 175, NRG 20. I'm happy there, I cruise through Hell and I live. I'll probably dump all future stat points into DEX...
If you are using the STR or DEX to hold equipment then you might want to keep your Lionheart. If you are not...
Lionheart benefits ------------------------>Jewels and Runes
+20% Enhanced Damage = Jewel #1
Requirements -15% = Useless (or use Scintillating Jewel of Freedom for Jewel #3)
+25 To Strength = Useless
+10 To Energy = Not significant to a hunter
+20 To Vitality = Whale (96)
+15 To Dexterity = Jewel #1 and Jewel #2
+50 To Life = Whale (96)
All Resistances +30% = 2 Um runes or 2 Scintillating Jewels
Sockets in Jeweler's Whale...
Jewel #1 = 35%ED/15IAS
Jewel #2 = Ardent Jewel of Fervor (61-100AR/15IAS)
2 Um runes or 2 Scintillating Jewels
You lose... nothing.
You gain... 30%IAS, more life (especially after OakSage), whatever second mods are on the 2 scintillating jewels above.
Well since I do not trade finding some of those jewels is not the easiest thing.....also I use the 25 str since I use a sheild and a throwing weapon on the switch which the 25str help me hold.
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