SkellyMancer skill pts , now what?

[dabe]

So ive maxed my SM, RS, CE. got a point in all my golems except fire, got a point in revive, with my items i have 10 revives so thats plenty, got all my curses... now what? I have a ton of points level over and im not even 80.

I am not gunna bother with mages since the best i can tell by the numbers you would need to invest into lower resist and use it regularly for them to be effective. My 35-35 skellies with might merc seem to do a great job combined with level 27 CE so what should I do? Summon resist? Golem mastery.. or invest some points into gumby? Too late for poison or bone spells so.. i dunno im baffled.. btw my curses are level 10 all and have plenty of radius and duration on the ones I use most ( DV, Amp, Decripy, terror) so kinda a waste to plant points there as well.

[insane_knights]

Since your character seems to be well eqipped (sp? looks odd) you can always go for a bone spell, boosted with the marrowalks thingy.

If you character is going to do baal runs you could always invest a couple of more points into dim vision or amp dmg so you can load out on mf gear. Im guesing you made a fishymancer so you probably will mf with him quite a bit. With mf gear on your curses probably wont be so high.

Guess it all depends on what your going to be doing later on.

[JohnnyShotMe]

1 into bone armor, 20 bone wall, use marrows is my opinion. Also, flesh out your curses (at least 1 in each) to make you a bit more versatile and party friendly. Bone and poison skills aren't really worth it IMO due to lack of ability to fill in the synergies fully. After you complete those investments, you can either save points for bone wall on the off chance marrows is fixed/changed or go for mages.

[Myrakh-2]

I am not gunna bother with mages since the best i can tell by the numbers you would need to invest into lower resist and use it regularly for them to be effective.

That's a matter of personal preference. I max my magi, and put the usual "1 point" into lower resist, but I only use LR occassionally. Most of the time my magi are just around, casting their missiles and doing pitiful damage, but...

- they turn some monsters green, which makes for a more colorful scenario
- they turn some monsters blue, which not only makes for a more colorful scenario but also chills them
- they (more or less) double the amount of minions I have. The magi usually don't run to the front line, so they make a good "loose group" around me, protecting the otherwise open sideflanks and my back (there shouldn't be anything coming from behind, but...)

And while a mage or two can't kill a monster pack advancing from a side corridor, they WILL stall them long enough to let the warriors finish their current job. They also help with "hard PIs" --- the ones I put TO firewalls under (when I manage to complete the set on the new ladder, that is...) and LR on top.

I don't know how much damage they do, but some damage is some damage, and contrary to using a weak bonespell I don't have to care about anything --- the magi just run around and do their thing. And while magi and warriors are doing their thing, myself blows up things and picks up goodies, rather than aiming spells at monsters.

But, as I said: it's a matter of personal preference. I like to have them around.

On the other hand, my current (still incomplete) Skelemancer doesn't even have the point in Revive yet --- I hardly ever use them anyway, and without the gear I want I don't have enough mana to support them anyway.

[Vectom]

- they turn some monsters green, which makes for a more colorful scenario

...and they stop monsters' regeneration. Not a thing to be overlooked.

[theHolesyouleft]

I'm pretty sure that prevent monster heal thing was only in 1.09. Everyone seemed to overlook that with the 1.10 patch.

[Aron Figaro]

They don't prevent monster heal, but the continuous BLASTING of the monster certainly keeps it from regenerating. Not much can heal faster than a pack of 12 mages can do damage...

[gvandale]

I hate to read...actually...I can't read...
READ THE DAMN STICKIES! (http://www.rpgforums.net/showthread.php?t=126667&page=1)

g

ps.
To everyone else: your advice sucks!

The original Skellimancer guide in all it's glory! (http://strategy.diabloii.net/news.php?id=509)

[dabe]

READ THE DAMN STICKIES! (http://www.rpgforums.net/showthread.php?t=126667&page=1)

g

ps.
To everyone else: your advice sucks!

The original Skellimancer guide in all it's glory! (http://strategy.diabloii.net/news.php?id=509)


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Originally Posted by dabe
I hate to read...actually...I can't read...



Ughhh I didnt write that, are you on crack? Or possibly you are the one who cannot read.. ?
BTW, ive read the stickies so stop spamming that garbage plz

[gvandale]

It's a joke, relax. But please realise how annoying it is to read 10x threads that are all the same, and that could have all been answered by reading the stickied.

Take your attitude elsewhere.

g

[JoJeck]

It's a joke, relax. But please realise how annoying it is to read 10x threads that are all the same, and that could have all been answered by reading the stickied.

Take your attitude elsewhere.

g
Gvandale, the person with a bad attitude today has been you. You are not the mod for this forum last time I checked and I don't know why you think you have the right to tell others how to post here. And as far as I remember this forum has a policy of tolerance and good manners.

If you don't like what someone has posted ignore it, just don't post, or skip over it and don't read it. That is normally what I do, but in your case I feel I have to speak out about your bad behaviour. I agree that some post are repeated every few days but that is because we get new players and people new to the forum dropping in all the time. A gentle reminder that there are stickies is acceptable in a thread or two but these Large Red Lettered posts in multiple threads are excessive. Please try to make new users of this forum welcome and be more positive.

[Dragonmaster]

g is right. If new members refuse to read the sticky guides at the TOP of the page before asking questions clearly answered in them, I don't see how they can complain about getting *****ed out in red.

[dabe]

I've read the stickies.

I'v read through the skellymancer bible several times.

I didnt like some of the things about it or wanted to do something different.

I submitted a post to get community feedback for some ideas and/or comments on where i was skill point wise, itemwise.

I got flamed by wassisname cause he thought that i obviously didnt read the stickies since i didnt create my character EXACTY how it was written by the guide author and i was interested in what other people had to say.

Sharing ideas is what this forum is all about isnt it?
Ppl shouldnt be flamed for it.
The stickies are great, good information and all but not everyone has the same items, interests and playing style. Getting opinions from a bunch of ppl is more credible to me than a guide written by one.

I would like to know where in my origional post does it imply that I DIDNT read the stickies.

This whole big red font flaming crap rediculous.

[BGrifter]

Doesn't seem too unreasonable to reopen the Skellymancer/Bone tree hybrid discussion with the new ladder season. The articles stickied above don't cover it with much detail and a couple of the builds proposed leave a lot of room for tweaking.

Marrowwalk makes a hybrid a legitimate possibility, from the sound of things you should have enough points left to max one synergy and one bone skill, with the points being a little tight for the latter. Add Marrowwalk's synergy bonus and you have a pretty respectable Spear or Spirit, hardly godly but certainly enough to be useful. I'm considering a similar build with only one point in CE and the rest into a bone synergy.

[Mad Mantis]

I got flamed by wassisname cause he thought that i obviously didnt read the stickies since i didnt create my character EXACTY how it was written by the guide author and i was interested in what other people had to say.

Normally I would like to stay out of these things, but after watching a few of these threads it appeared to me that a simple introduction to most of these posts could make for a more solid discussion. Please keep in mind that I am not singling you out, but rather using you as an example of numerous threads created over the last few weeks.

Most of these threads start out very common with a simple introduction of the skills of the posters character. Most of these posts don’t state if the poster has even bothered to look for things themselves. Just first state which guides you have read and what exactly made you wonder if things could be different. This shows to us that you have taken the time to read some of our hard work, and we understand that you really wish to learn something and are willing to do some work for it.

Anther simple solution would be the use of the search (http://www.rpgforums.net/search.php?) function. This lets you search old threads without having to manually sift through all the pages of the forum. If you can not get a result by using this then state it. Again this shows us that you really wish to learn something and are willing to do some work for it. Your original posts is basically the question what next for my Skelliemancer. There are numerous threads about the same subject. This question has been answered a lot. Maybe not all are to your liking, but you could refer to them. Show us that you are indeed interested.

[gvandale]

Gvandale, the person with a bad attitude today has been you. You are not the mod for this forum last time I checked and I don't know why you think you have the right to tell others how to post here. And as far as I remember this forum has a policy of tolerance and good manners.

If you don't like what someone has posted ignore it, just don't post, or skip over it and don't read it. That is normally what I do, but in your case I feel I have to speak out about your bad behaviour. I agree that some post are repeated every few days but that is because we get new players and people new to the forum dropping in all the time. A gentle reminder that there are stickies is acceptable in a thread or two but these Large Red Lettered posts in multiple threads are excessive. Please try to make new users of this forum welcome and be more positive.
thank you capt. save-a-ho.

i had a 'discussion' with DK, and I will ammend my ways. BUT, I went a step further to draft a sticky thread, that will help newcomers get along here easier.

it's extremely frustrating that the same posts go up day in / day out. if you help these posters, they will never learn to use the search tool, or just look at the front page.

either way, thanks for giving your input. good day.

g

[RealityThreek]

I understand gvandale's point. Alot of these posts are the exact same as they were when 1.10 came out months ago. And they were discussed in detail then. :)

I gotta say though, I -STILL- don't know my preference on the topic. My first summoner was mages/CE, second was backup bone (bad idea), third was backup poison (works, but you need good items), the one i'm making now is going full CE/curses(aka Fishymancer). The problem is that the base skelemancer is so damn good that the extra skills are just gravy. It comes down to personal preference, and people hate not knowing which way is best.

[Baboon]

I just read this thread and although I know gvandale has contributed a lot to these forums I think his response is out of line. Ofcourse it would be nice if everyone readed the stickies before asking a question but even then you should be allowed to ask something that's already in there, just to make sure or look from another point.

I'd say if you get really pissed about these questions you could try to let other people who aren't tired of it answer all those easy to answer questions. Nothing wrong with that, I actually like to do that since you make a lot of people happy and they will come back to these forums. Just look at the newcomer forum, there's not a question that stays unanswered, even if it's 'what does the gem do' or something like that.