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Yams
19-07-2004, 08:04
My necro currently has around the same hit points as one of my skellies (max rs and max sm), and about a little bit less or more (i forget) in attack rating. My defense is also around the same as my skellies, maybe a bit higher.

I'm in nightmare lvl right now, but it's odd, because I can barely make contact to monsters with my wand, while my skellies can make contact more often. I take more physical damage and have to use a full rejuvenation potion after 2-3 hits while my skellies don't die at all. One good example of this is when I faced one of those critters (I'm still new to the game I forget their name) that use Blizzard. I see the critter cast 2-3 blizzards on my skellies and they don't die. 1 Blizzard at me almost kills me. I have about 40% resist cold, my skellies have lvl 2 summon resist.

Why is it that although I have similar stats to my skellies, I seem to take much more damage and hurt more than they do?

hks489
19-07-2004, 08:14
ur skeles are wearing an invisble down jacket that's 1000% res to cold. If you wanna be as uber as them, u need to goto wal-mart and buy one too. But after you goto hell, the wal-mart will be too weak and then u're gonna have to upgrade to the Sears one.

phenix0000
19-07-2004, 08:44
My necro currently has around the same hit points as one of my skellies (max rs and max sm), and about a little bit less or more (i forget) in attack rating. My defense is also around the same as my skellies, maybe a bit higher.

I'm in nightmare lvl right now, but it's odd, because I can barely make contact to monsters with my wand, while my skellies can make contact more often. I take more physical damage and have to use a full rejuvenation potion after 2-3 hits while my skellies don't die at all. One good example of this is when I faced one of those critters (I'm still new to the game I forget their name) that use Blizzard. I see the critter cast 2-3 blizzards on my skellies and they don't die. 1 Blizzard at me almost kills me. I have about 40% resist cold, my skellies have lvl 2 summon resist.

Why is it that although I have similar stats to my skellies, I seem to take much more damage and hurt more than they do?

A very simple thing is while your skeletons have about the same resist as you, they have significantly more hp than you do. Skeleton hp scales up in difficulty levels, they have more hp in nightmare than in normal (it is not displayed). Their hp also scales when more people join the game. Another factor is regeneration: all summons regenerate hp after a period of time, while you may see your skeletons get hit, those same skeletons probably regenerated some hp before the next blizzard hit them.

On the part about skeletons hitting more often: they don't actually hit more often than you if you have same AR as them, just that there's more of them, so you think they hit more often. If you want to compare how often they hit, cast life tap on monsters and see how often a particular skeleton has life leech swirls.

JoJeck
19-07-2004, 18:35
A very simple thing is while your skeletons have about the same resist as you, they have significantly more hp than you do. Skeleton hp scales up in difficulty levels, they have more hp in nightmare than in normal (it is not displayed). Their hp also scales when more people join the game. Another factor is regeneration: all summons regenerate hp after a period of time, while you may see your skeletons get hit, those same skeletons probably regenerated some hp before the next blizzard hit them.

On the part about skeletons hitting more often: they don't actually hit more often than you if you have same AR as them, just that there's more of them, so you think they hit more often. If you want to compare how often they hit, cast life tap on monsters and see how often a particular skeleton has life leech swirls.I agree with most of this but have a query.

Are you sure that skeleton HP scale with more players in the game? I have not heard of that effect in 1.10 with any minions, although earlier patches may have been like that. Where did you get this information?

To the original questioner: The display does not show the life of your skeletons correctly and they have many more HP than the displayed value. For instance at SR = 30, SM = 30 they will have 3784 hp in Normal (544 displayed) and 3915 hp in Nightmare (675 displayed) and 4089 hp in Hell (849 displayed). Also skeletons regenerate quickly and can recover their entire Hit points in about 40 seconds. For the example above in Hell that means regenerating about 100 hp / sec. Your skeletons are much tougher than you or your merc and usually your golem. Only Revives can be stronger and they can be much tougher than your skellies depending on what you revive and where it was from.

phenix0000
19-07-2004, 21:06
What I wrote above had been my experience with my skelemancer in the game. When I play a game with only myself, my skeletons would die to hell travincial when I do a mf run. However, in a 8 player baal run my skeletons can tank almost every wave and not die. Since skeleton damage, defense, doesn't change with more player, I assume that their hp goes up, because they seem very sturdy when more players are in the game.

Yams
19-07-2004, 21:53
ahh i see thanks for the info