DarkForge Spawn worth?

[Hypnectic]

DarkForge Spawn:
+(140-180)% Enhanced Defense
30% Faster Cast Rate
+10% to Maximum Mana
+(1-3) to Curses
+(1-3) to Poison And Bone Spells
+(1-3) to Summoning Spells

O.k. so I have been searching for a darkforge since the ladder reset, since all I play is non-ladder. With no luck at all people don't wanna bite on any of my offers. Seriously what the hek is one of those worth? All I honestly want is one with +3 bone and poison skills, could care less about curses or summon.
And that 30% FCR is tits! Would make any high lvl Bonemancer drool. :drool:

Any insight you guys have on this subject would be great.
thx
~hypNECtic~

[Pallidum]

If you are on east you can get one of those for 4-5 unmentionable charms (venomous charms of anthrax). I think you know the charms Im talking about.

[Slipin]

Very nice head, but humon is still king at NvAll, and you HAVE to make a vitamancer since it would take an ungodly amount for a decent block rate.
If your rich enought to get this head, your rich enough to get a good circlet, which IMO is a much better choice.

(btw, it Darkforce, not Darkforge)

[NecroManiac]

Very nice head, but humon is still king at NvAll, and you HAVE to make a vitamancer since it would take an ungodly amount for a decent block rate.
If your rich enought to get this head, your rich enough to get a good circlet, which IMO is a much better choice.

(btw, it Darkforce, not Darkforge)


No no no DarkForce>Homo if u know how to tele/dodge right melees. Wont get a chance to hit u unless thier a ww sin and those u have a good chance to win b/c most of the time they tele right on to ur golem :)

Buuuutttt there is one down fall and that are zons with 160/60 and 120/45 armor and helms, they take me down like no other.

[Slipin]

There was a poll a month or so back Humon v Darkforce, Humon wiped the floor with Darkforce, and for a good reason. Darkforce is only useful for getting the 125 FCR, one more skill does not make a huge damage increase, and you just can't be the res, energy, and mana regen of the humon. Its quite stupid to use darkforce if you already have 125 fcr, and against chargers and teleWW barbs the blocking really does help.

[soulesschild]

Still havent learned to spell correctly I see. On west, these things can go up to 12 runes.

I have dueled with my blockmancer using darkforce agaisnt melee, and it isnt THAT bad. You just have to have ungodly reflexes.

[waytofailself]

Still havent learned to spell correctly I see. On west, these things can go up to 12 runes.

I have dueled with my blockmancer using darkforce agaisnt melee, and it isnt THAT bad. You just have to have ungodly reflexes.

12 runes...like 12 uber high runes? wow...i can't belive my luck then...i didn't think much of the +3/+3/+3 one i found other than the 30% FCR...still hoping for a homonculus, but i guess i finally have something of trade value :)

[NecroManiac]

There was a poll a month or so back Humon v Darkforce, Humon wiped the floor with Darkforce, and for a good reason. Darkforce is only useful for getting the 125 FCR, one more skill does not make a huge damage increase, and you just can't be the res, energy, and mana regen of the humon. Its quite stupid to use darkforce if you already have 125 fcr, and against chargers and teleWW barbs the blocking really does help.

the 125 fcr bp is a key aspect in a necro. It makes u faster and able to create Ibs fields.

But of course if u decide to get 125 fcr w/o the darkforce you would have to sacrifice alot of res, life and fhr.

[Slipin]

Many people get 125 without darkforce, how do you think NL survived?
without res...why do you think I'm arguing over humon :lol:.

[soulesschild]

in NvN, darkforce still reigns king in my book. everything else, yes Humon > all

[hks489]

This is why u have both. Homo for melee and DF for casters.

does a df really go for that high? got mine for a soj and a trang shield. 2/3/3

[soulesschild]

thats what ive seen it go for in channels and forums, what realm?

[hks489]

USEast, it was 1st ladder, dont have one yet for 2nd season

[waytofailself]

thats what ive seen it go for in channels and forums, what realm?

us west, i'll have eto drop into the trade channels...i try to avoid them as much as possible, but for that many high runes it might be worth it

[Hypnectic]

Man you need to get a grip.
It is spelled correctly.

And thanks to everyone else who gave some insightful information.

But honestly I dont think I'll be paying more than 2-3 "290's"
for the Darkforce Spawn, It just doesnt seem worthwhile.
Ill just use my Sur'd Lidless and Eld'd Homonc for now.
But that friggin 30% FCR is what I'm in need of.
Or I could use a caster ring.... :scratch: ehh 2nd thought hell no.
Well I'm sure I'll get one soon.
And one more thing I did accquire a bad4ss Circlet:
+2 necromancer skill lvls
+13 mana
+20% FCR
+17 to strength

This puppy is gonna get a shael, when I socket it. :drool: yummy.

~hypNECtic~

[LordDrift]

im the type that doesnt care for block

so i go darkforce spawn over humo

I have 125FCR by using

Darkforce Spawn - Um'd = 30
Bitter Band = 10
Storm Loop = 10
HOTO = 40
Mage Fists = 20
Arch Mesh = 20

Other Gear:
Shako - Shael'd
Sandstorm - 15Vita/15Str
Perfect Maras
6BO CTA Flail w/ Lidless
Enigma Breast Plate 30 Str

Total = 130FCR

Resists: All Maxed
Life w/ BO = Over 3200+

How?
ALL Vita nothing else
6 P&B GC with 30+ Life
4x with 12%FHR

130FCR - 125%FCR BP
88%FHR - 86%FHR BP

So im trying to say with a nice set of caster rings, you dont need humo as much as you think. I barely run out of mana, just use spear

[soulesschild]

Man you need to get a grip.
It is spelled correctly.

It is spelled correctly? Straight off Arreat Summit:

Darkforce Spawn
Bloodlord Skull

Defense: 357-417 (varies)(Base Defense: 103-148)
Required Level: 65
Required Strength: 106
Durability: 20
Chance To Block: 32%
(Necromancer Only)
+140-180% Enhanced Defense (varies)
+1-3 To Summoning Skills (Necromancer Only) (varies)
+1-3 To Poison And Bone Skills (Necromancer Only) (varies)
+1-3 To Curses (Necromancer Only) (varies)
+30% Faster Cast Rate
Increase Maximum Mana 10%
(Ladder Only)
(Only Spawns In Patch 1.10 or later)


If you're going to try to argue with me now that it's "spelled" correctly, then continue to make yourself look like a fool, because I have hard evidence that it's spelled "DARKFORCE" not "DARKFORGE", where's yours?

~Soulesschild

p.s. Slipin also pointed it out to you that it's "DARKFORCE", not "DARKFORGE."

(btw, it Darkforce, not Darkforge)

[LordDrift]

yea straight out of arreat and my inventory

it is Darkforce Spawn. Just admit you were wrong and let be, don't make an fool of yourself by being stubborn

[Hypnectic]

IM STICKING TO MY STORY LIKE O.J.

hyp :lol:

[LordDrift]

ignorance is a bliss :scratch:

[Jimmeh]

so what does a venomous charm of anthrax do? just a psn sc?

[gvandale]

so what does a venomous charm of anthrax do? just a psn sc?
hello?

it's a 290 pdsc...which is standard duped currency on non-ladder

g

[TheKbob]

I prefer my circlet really:

+2 Necro
20% FCR
+21 Str
+9 Res all
+XX% Def
+20% FHR (shael)

Darkforce is only good when it has +3 bone, and compartivly speaking that +3 bone darkforce is going to be hard to find on non-lad.

Those rings you suggested are duped, but of course, I use Stormcirclet, the advantage of non-ladd.

Storm Circlet Amulet:
+2 Necro
+2 Sorc
20% Cast
+18 str~
+54 Life~
+54 Mana~
+24% Fire,light, and cold res

~ = I'm guessing, but close.

I would rather use it, though, over an .08 valk. Ugly on a necro.

~Kbob

[Hypnectic]

Yes after mis-reading the spelling numerous times I kept on seeing Forge instead of force... eh my bad, sorry to get everyones panties in a bunch.

Does it really matter though?

I'm just going to continue to call it forge for my own amusement :lol:

soulless you were right from day one...heh oops. :worship:

anyways, I did finally get myself one!! woot!

HYPnecTIC

[LordDrift]

I prefer my circlet really:

+2 Necro
20% FCR
+21 Str
+9 Res all
+XX% Def
+20% FHR (shael)

Darkforce is only good when it has +3 bone, and compartivly speaking that +3 bone darkforce is going to be hard to find on non-lad.

Those rings you suggested are duped, but of course, I use Stormcirclet, the advantage of non-ladd.

Storm Circlet Amulet:
+2 Necro
+2 Sorc
20% Cast
+18 str~
+54 Life~
+54 Mana~
+24% Fire,light, and cold res

~ = I'm guessing, but close.

I would rather use it, though, over an .08 valk. Ugly on a necro.

~Kbob


omg im glad im not in a realm with that ring, no good no good

[Asheron]

omg im glad im not in a realm with that ring, no good no good

heh,I think it says amulet,but still no goo no good