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krazyludwig
14-07-2004, 08:58
i have a question. is there a build that can make use of WF in hell? i have hear that zons suck even with it in hell so i was wondering if anyone could enlighten me! thanks :worship:
CreLuSioN
14-07-2004, 09:38
multi arrow // freezing arrow is still pretty decent even in hell (i tried last season) offcourse java is way better but if u love bow amas i would say go for it...
Mad Merlin
14-07-2004, 09:46
Hybrid GA/LF zon does wonders with a windy. I know from experience.
Gyro
14-07-2004, 12:59
Slap a Delerium on your strafe or multi zon, and WF or any reasonably fast bow should make for fun times. You won't be the fastest killer, but you'll stay out of harms way while your victims go at each other.
rotor_001
14-07-2004, 13:21
Read the guide about pit-strafezons http://www.rpgforums.net/showthread.php?t=175957. Made one in late first season.... I wish I had a wf :drool: I'd remake her in a heartbeat
CreLuSioN
14-07-2004, 14:24
strafezon is no good for hc
Baboon
14-07-2004, 15:51
strafezon is no good for hc

Well, you take a risk. If you make a strafe/java hybrid you should pick your moments for strafe.
Liessa Wyrmbane
14-07-2004, 16:03
strafezon is no good for hc
I had a base vitality strafer with WWS bow last season. I soloed her to level 91. So I don't know what you mean by "no good". I never even had a close call with her.
krazyludwig
14-07-2004, 19:40
what kind of items would i need for a java/strafe zon? and what skills would you guys suggest? i already have the wf :-)
WingBlade
14-07-2004, 19:54
what kind of items would i need for a java/strafe zon? and what skills would you guys suggest? i already have the wf :-)
Optimal Equip would be Titans / Gaze / etc...

Skills

Jav - Max LF / CS

Bow - Some strafe

Dodge / Avoid / Evade - you want to try 2 get @ least 50% on all three...

u also want a good Valk... @ least lvl 10
Gyro
15-07-2004, 04:19
I had a base vitality strafer with WWS bow last season. I soloed her to level 91. So I don't know what you mean by "no good". I never even had a close call with her.

Base vitality--yikes! That would be scary. :cheesy:
ConnerMacleod
15-07-2004, 05:55
Lots and Lots of 20 vita charms on that zon? Holy cow my 99 .09 Bowazon can't even take a hit and she has lots of life.
nebby
15-07-2004, 06:24
Base vitality--yikes! That would be scary. :cheesy:

Reminds me of the "glass canon" builds back in Classic...can still work, if you have KB and good valk/decoy/merc skills...but low margin of error there...
det
15-07-2004, 11:20
strafezon is no good for hc

AAAARGGHHHHHHHHH, Crelusion...Blasphemy!!!!! :lol:

Strafers rock...my highest character on last ladder was a Strafer (lv 85)..casulal play.

After finding a Twitch/Riphook yesterday...its good bye sorc, hello new Strafer. I just love those girls.

WF Strafer are okay, some prefer them over WWS Strafers. It's just hard to get 120 IAS, but many are comfortable with just 90.
necro_9
15-07-2004, 12:49
whats WWS?
Gyro
15-07-2004, 12:56
whats WWS?

Witchwild String
rotor_001
15-07-2004, 13:09
Well I must say that I only did pit runs where there are few elemental enemies just watch out for archers. My resist where terrible but just probe with strafe have a good merc and high valk. I never had a close call either, just use your decoy well.

edit: oh get laying of hands they work wonders in the pit.
BattleCookie
15-07-2004, 13:19
I wonder how many people made their way with a strafe zon trough nm and/or hell without maphack ... :scratch:

Its nice to solo the pit all the time. But the first time you meet some gloams in a4 (yes there are gloams in a4) or a5 you are toast ... or respect for your reflexes ...

Cookie
Gyro
15-07-2004, 13:30
Its nice to solo the pit all the time. But the first time you meet some gloams in a4 (yes there are gloams in a4) or a5 you are toast ... or respect for your reflexes ...

Cookie

Isn't that what T-Gods is for? That or Wisp.
det
15-07-2004, 14:16
I wonder how many people made their way with a strafe zon trough nm and/or hell without maphack ... :scratch:
Cookie

Here's one :)

I am not saying I would do Baal runs with my WWS Strafer, but after so many TPPKs and other cheap players were around, I actually had to solo a lot in NM and Hell. With a WWS I had maxed resists in hell, but I am aware that a bad combination of Conviction Gloams, or Extra fast, Fana Moon Lords is capable of tearing me apart in a blink. Well...they are capable of killing anybody, aren't they? That's why we have the "Our fallen friends"thread.

On the other hand I never felt comfortabel teleing around with my sorc in WSK even after a frķend gave me a SS and I used Tgods, full block, 105 FCR etc etc... Guess it often boils down to what you are most comfortable playing..and that's bowazons for me :thumbsup:
kurg
16-07-2004, 00:22
A properly played bowazon who uses freezing arrow, lots of cold charms/items, strafe or multi, decoy, valk, slow missles, etc well can get by with low vitality. She won't be incredibly fast, but she won't be horribly slow either.

On the other hand, why take the risk that a moment of lag, or a teleporting boss won't kick your butt? I'd never go with base vit just for that reason (although long ago in softcore classic I did have a base-vit zon and rarely died).