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DragonKnight_Aka
06-07-2004, 20:03
I see that a lot of people have a problem with others using abosrb to me abosrb should only be used against chars like sorcs like this
fair dueling chars: since they duel fair 1 abosrb item and maxium resist
unfair dueling chars: ( nk, tg or w/e ) full abosrb and maxium resist
if u lose against a char: no thier not hacked or bugger just trying or try different setup and ask if it ok to use more abosrb
people who uses bugged or hacked items: thats just even fair to u so use absorb
people who use abosrb cuz they suck and don't wanna lose 1 duel cuz they take this game too serious: get a nerco , barb , zon , pally or w/e a char that can't be abosrbed and see how skilled they are when they can't be abosrb.
thats most people do in duels is use full abosrb against a fair char and piss off alot of people on bnet and in here
Phyrexial
06-07-2004, 23:21
As far as I know bugged/hacked gear doesn't exist on Ladder so I don't have to worry about that.
As for absorb, my thoughts on it change often. As of right now I'm of the mindset that if they can be easily negated that's their problem for being a single element build. I love to see pure FoHers cry when I slap on my 4 ptopaz shield and beat them down with my own FoH. Then they slap on absorb and I smite them. :) Being a versatile dueler and planning on people using the most BM gear possible is practically a requisite for dueling in pubbies these days.
Unless of course you're one of those people that just run to town when you hit 50% health then proceed to talk trash from town.
SeraphicShade
06-07-2004, 23:59
In my opinion, any absorb is fair.
And two...why did you have to spell "absorb" as "abOSRB" the whole way through? It's obviously absorb, and I thought the first was a spelling error but you used it the whole way through..
DragonKnight_Aka
07-07-2004, 00:49
In my opinion, any absorb is fair.
And two...why did you have to spell "absorb" as "abOSRB" the whole way through? It's obviously absorb, and I thought the first was a spelling error but you used it the whole way through..cuz I can't spell lol and I agree with u guys if I was rich enough I love to see someone abosrb my fire druids spells l'll just say brb and bring a v/t pally and say absorb this. When foh pallys think their the **** and kill me when I get body back I say ok now I'm for real I get out my 4 topaz shield and just smite and charge them down. I also do this to people who sit thier and fully abosrb some trapsin or another char for doing nothing I Just run in town and hostial them and smite them down
I can also fully abosrb blizzard sorcs now but only to the ones who nk and tg it's funny when they do town guard I just come out and still kill them
Phyrexial
07-07-2004, 01:46
Oh man, this was great. Some guy loaded up all this stacked res and absorb to negate this guy's FO (overkill if you ask me) after getting killed twice in fair duels but the guy was a meteor/orb sorc and killed him in about 5 seconds via fball afterwards. :lol:
Got to love cocky idiots.
DragonKnight_Aka
07-07-2004, 02:04
Oh man, this was great. Some guy loaded up all this stacked res and absorb to negate this guy's FO (overkill if you ask me) after getting killed twice in fair duels but the guy was a meteor/orb sorc and killed him in about 5 seconds via fball afterwards. :lol:
Got to love cocky idiots.
Lmao :lol:
mmm I should try it ( OMG U GUYS ARE ALL NOOBS I"M THE BEST IN THE GAME NOOB ) what do u think did I talk trash good enough like they do in the pubby games ?
Da1nONLY
08-07-2004, 17:35
wouldn't it be funny it I had my sorc convert fire dmg to magic? wouldn't tat own? *wishes*
Phyrexial
08-07-2004, 19:47
wouldn't it be funny it I had my sorc convert fire dmg to magic? wouldn't tat own? *wishes*
That would be the most broken build ever. :lol: 23k of unstoppable damage, and done cheaply. Bnet would be forever doomed to rampant idiots. Even moreso than now. :scared:
DragonKnight_Aka
09-07-2004, 03:07
That would be the most broken build ever. :lol: 23k of unstoppable damage, and done cheaply. Bnet would be forever doomed to rampant idiots. Even moreso than now. :scared:
lmao that be the day
hey at least the things wouldnt chase u around? Im hoping to see some 20% magic damage reduction runewords in the season 2 ladder.
It's unfair to be fair...
LLD-Vampire
15-07-2004, 11:06
Any absorb is fair, I mean people say that if they don't do enough damage to hurt you then you're absorbing to much. Well what if I go make a fire sorc that does 2k damage with fireball and ***** when it bearly hurts you demanding that you lower your resist more. Nothing is more irritating then using tgods (for str and dex) and hearing god damn trappers *****, ahh you don't 1 hit ko me eek your life is over! Sorry I would take it off but then I can't use half my god dam gear get over it. K I'm done, listen to phyrex don't make a ***** 1 element char most of all something like a pally or assassin that can easily be melee and something else.
Joe_smith
15-07-2004, 11:11
Any absorb is fair, I mean people say that if they don't do enough damage to hurt you then you're absorbing to much. Well what if I go make a fire sorc that does 2k damage with fireball and ***** when it bearly hurts you demanding that you lower your resist more. Nothing is more irritating then using tgods (for str and dex) and hearing god damn trappers *****, ahh you don't 1 hit ko me eek your life is over! Sorry I would take it off but then I can't use half my god dam gear get over it. K I'm done, listen to phyrex don't make a ***** 1 element char most of all something like a pally or assassin that can easily be melee and something else.
yep let's all make courageous and honorable unabsorbable tele bone mancers and hammerdins and get zealed by running barbs.
Sephiroth[TR]
15-07-2004, 13:27
everything is fair in public dueling imo.. Beside whast the fun of dying in 1-2 hits from a spell.. 15k trappers they deserve to get absorbed.
Beside what is totaly crap in public is a trapper starts to call ya noob when u dont mindlesly tele in to there trap and die. They start calling me chicken oO and noob Oo woot so im noob cos im not teleporting in urs traps but spam spels from a safe distance ?
after killing that lamer twice i started nk him WMAHAH irc i got 300k gold from nking him MOEHUAA
everything is fair in public dueling !
Phyrexial
15-07-2004, 19:55
If you plan to duel in pubbies, the age old rule of "plan for the worst, hope for the best" applies. Why do I use a bone necro? Because it cannot be negated. The worst thing you can do is use slow missiles and I'm getting better at dueling even under its effects. You cannot go into pubbies with a single element character that can simply be negated because in pubbies, someone will sooner or later.
Also, the "top" dueling chars (Necro, Windy, Hammerdin, WW barb) may be well and good, but I've seen other characters go toe to toe with them using other builds, even in pubbies. Why? Because they are versatile. Examples:
Trapper: Most trappers are pure LS with a little into Fireblast. This leads to easy absorbtion, and most can't aim FB for crap. However, anyone that has dueled Aschuta or Aveline (now just Ave I think) on East know that a strong emphasis on FB can lead to an insanely powerful and versatile build. I know Aschuta plays entirely with FB until you piss him off. He can kill by necro with 2-3 hits without absorb using FB. Ashuta has all his gear loaded with fire facets. Aveline is the richer version of Aschuta and immediately puts both LS and FB to use.
FoH: Your average pubby FoHer can do nothing more than cry in town when you put on tgods and a 4 ptopaz shield. However, the v/ts and mages out there will have no problems switching to Hammers or Smite.
Hammerdins: I've seen countless hammerdins die to ranged duelers (zons, necros) with ease simply because all they can do is namelock tele hammer. Then you see the Liberators break out charge.
These are just some examples of builds that have moved from good to godly because of versatility. There are others I have neglected to mention (like Widowmaker asns/barbs/etc) that have further increased their overall effectiveness through being versatile and not stupid. What are you going to do in a pubby? Cry in town when you are negated by 1-2 items, or a single skill? Or will you switch gears and put that lamer in his place?
Lastly, just because all the other lamers are being BM in pubbies doesn't mean you have to as well. I personally feel alot more satisfied when I beat someone playing fair and not negating them or just IBSing all day.
Joe_smith
16-07-2004, 17:57
fully synergized fire ball still does a lot less damage than bone spear even with 75% res no absorb. and skilless necros can simply abuse ibs or teeth and win easily while the only chance the fire ball sorc has is making spetacular tele locks. if you think otherwise then your not a good necro. cuz I as an occasional necro player can go toe to toe with top fb sorcs with 3k damage 10 fps 0 fhr.
DragonKnight_Aka
17-07-2004, 03:04
to me dieing in 1 or 2 hits isn't fun thats like this
< hit > <hit> oh good duel
lately I been trying to be as fair as I can be against chars but if someone gonna tg or nk me and then talk trash,then l'll play that game too use full abosrb. And I don't care how much they cry or complain about me using it
P.S. how my spellin' :scratch:
ReVolution
17-07-2004, 04:00
I don't absorb or use + max res for anything except blizz, then I resort to dual ravens if they're really good :O
but the best will do 4k pvp dmg to my barb right away even with dual ravens, so..
Joe_smith
17-07-2004, 04:37
I don't absorb or use + max res for anything except blizz, then I resort to dual ravens if they're really good :O
but the best will do 4k pvp dmg to my barb right away even with dual ravens, so..
me neither on my barb but i use t gods sometimes when i get tanked by light sorcs occasionally trappers if i wanna avoid dying. also 75% fr will get tanked by a sorc like absolute-limit.
Phyrexial
17-07-2004, 08:10
fully synergized fire ball still does a lot less damage than bone spear even with 75% res no absorb. and skilless necros can simply abuse ibs or teeth and win easily while the only chance the fire ball sorc has is making spetacular tele locks. if you think otherwise then your not a good necro. cuz I as an occasional necro player can go toe to toe with top fb sorcs with 3k damage 10 fps 0 fhr.
I have a hard time believing that last statement. With 10 fps I'd imagine you'd be a sitting duck for the most part. However, I do agree with you that a necro if he feels the need to be cheesy they can certainly kill an fball sorc with easy via ibs or teeth spam.
I'm not sure exactly what you're getting at though with that post pertaining to this topic. Bone necro != a heck of alot of skill vs most classes. Old news.
LLD-Vampire
17-07-2004, 08:26
yep let's all make courageous and honorable unabsorbable tele bone mancers and hammerdins and get zealed by running barbs.
AHHHA AHHAA OMG MAN YOUR FUNNY Please tell your secret? Is it mentioning the same thing over and over again? Ahha it's so funny I'm dieing please help I'm pissing myself it's too funny ahhhaaaaaaaa omfg omfg help ahhhh. Ok now that thats done get over it, it happened once, 3 months ago, to a nec with no fcr, fhr, or charms. Hell lets just say I was lagging for the fun of it too.
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