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Grantage
01-07-2004, 05:01
I have been thinking of a paldadin build for months but never had the motivations to carry it through at first it may sound comical buit is it possible to carry it through? :scratch: List any suggestions on gear and what you think!

Tell me if the build has a name (i dont know)

Necadorceress (What happens when Sorc and Necro cross?)

skills: conviction-20 , holy shield-20, (The rest of the skill points i dont know what to do with i need ideas)
Stats: Base str, Base dex, block, 450 Vite, Base energy

Gear:
Helm: 5/5 fire faceted Shako
Belt: Trang belt
Gloves: Trang gloves
Armor:Breast plate Enigma
Weap : Hoto
Shield: 5/5 Fire faceted Lidless?
Ammy: Maras 30%
Boots: Eth Treks?
Rings: 2 bk ring OR 1 soj 1 bk ring
2nd: 6 Bo cta with lidless
Inventory : 10 Fire charms (preferably with life mods) Anni, 9 20 life 5 res all scs (dreaming)

The pally would use fball with Conviction primarily. With this gear Setup he could have LVL 42 FBALL!! :winner: (assuming all this works) and lvl 34 Conviction. CAn someone please help me out with the dmg/ how much minus to enemy resistances im giving? Practicle for Dueling? Thx you all very much!!! Necadorceress is all that is uber 1337!

Euro-Crash
01-07-2004, 05:16
I have been thinking of a paldadin build for months but never had the motivations to carry it through at first it may sound comical buit is it possible to carry it through? :scratch: List any suggestions on gear and what you think!

Tell me if the build has a name (i dont know)

Necadorceress (What happens when Sorc and Necro cross?)

skills: conviction-20 , holy shield-20, (The rest of the skill points i dont know what to do with i need ideas)
Stats: Base str, Base dex, block, 450 Vite, Base energy

Gear:
Helm: 5/5 fire faceted Shako
Belt: Trang belt
Gloves: Trang gloves
Armor:Breast plate Enigma
Weap : Hoto
Shield: 5/5 Fire faceted Lidless?
Ammy: Maras 30%
Boots: Eth Treks?
Rings: 2 bk ring OR 1 soj 1 bk ring
2nd: 6 Bo cta with lidless
Inventory : 10 Fire charms (preferably with life mods) Anni, 9 20 life 5 res all scs (dreaming)

The pally would use fball with Conviction primarily. With this gear Setup he could have LVL 42 FBALL!! :winner: (assuming all this works) and lvl 34 Conviction. CAn someone please help me out with the dmg/ how much minus to enemy resistances im giving? Practicle for Dueling? Thx you all very much!!! Necadorceress is all that is uber 1337!


Indeed this could be very powerful save for one minor detail. The fireball spell will be unsynergized.

Archetype
01-07-2004, 05:55
Wouldnt the fire charms be useless, seeing as it only adds to a 'sorceress' skill tree? Or does it work with cross classing?
My example for this: if I get barb wc gc and put it on my necro, would it add to his CTA Bo lvl?

Oh, if you can, add 1 more of trang set or keep on switch to give him a lvl 18 firewall. Its quite funny.

wvx_leader_returns
01-07-2004, 06:01
Meh... +Fire skills does work with all fire using skills, BUT dont fire skill charms have the mod [sorceresses only] on it?

neXus
01-07-2004, 06:15
charms wont work thats why they have (sorceress ONLY). i mean comon, thats pretty self explanitory.

Grantage
01-07-2004, 07:15
Well then i guess that pretty much throws my build out the door. Has anyone tested this though? i think i will try and create him anyways :thumbsup: if the charms dont work i will sacrifice some major damage and he will propably never be succesfulf but at least i am thinking outside of the box. My remaining skill points i will put into prayer/meditation making me 1/2 cleric. And besides since he is 1/2 sorc i should get 1/2 a skill point from them. :lol:

wvx_leader_returns
01-07-2004, 07:23
I have seen someone using that build in PvP, didnt do much at all, but he looked like he was having fun... Give it a try if you want.

Contach
01-07-2004, 12:18
this is more of a kill all mele duelres build.. max defiance and get pro dmg.. and try to tank barbs and stuff after flashing conv.

haha that'd be hella annoying.

belth
01-07-2004, 13:48
With With a ring of slvl5 Firebolt charges, the unique Jagged Star 'Moon Fall' (faceted) with its slvl11 Meteor charges and the unique Zakarum Shield 'Dragonscale' (faceted), you should end up at 1305-1448 damage Fireball.

With a ring of slvl5 Firebolt charges and the unique Jagged Star 'Moon Fall' (faceted) with its slvl11 Meteor charges, you should end up at 1215-1346 damage Fireball.

With a ring of slvl5 Firebolt charges and HotO, you should end up at 716-786 damage Fireball.

With the original setup, you should end up at 442-485 damage Fireball.

Synergies > +skills. Items with +Fireball work with oskills btw, despite the (Sorceress only) text. I don't think there's any available though.

Drop Conviction to slvl25 at most, since that's when the -enemy resistances caps out at -150%.

Note: numbers according to Diablo2.de's skill calculator+Windows Calculator for facets

Grantage
01-07-2004, 20:41
Thanks a ton for the info!!! :worship: Necadorceress begins Hell chaos runs today she should be ready by tommorow. Thanks again!!

raphiel20
01-07-2004, 21:00
i remmember a build like these being devised within another thread when some1 was talking about the most useless item in D2 suggesting dragon scale and then people went and made a build involving it :lol: i would suggest dragonscale just for the fact that it gives you another sorc skill to add to your build. If oyur going in pubbies to duel as well why not use a lower resist charged wand to add to the necro side and of course your dmg.
well have fun with the build :thumbsup:

l8rz :howdy:

raph

Grantage
02-07-2004, 15:44
Great idea... come to think of it i do have a lower resist wand. Bad news update on necadorceress though i accidently put 60 points into dex (with shift click) so.... i guess i will have max block now. :lol:

belth
02-07-2004, 16:15
I forgot there's Ormus' Robus with +3 Fireball which works and saw someone saying they have slvl6 Firebolt charges on a ring, so, new numbers, with a 5% facet in the Ormus: 1654.5-1831.5 damage, including +50% fire damage from Dragonscale (+15%), Ormus (+15%) and 4 +5% facets (+20%).

At best, -170% fire resistance so you're looking at 3309-3663 damage against quite many monsters. Add slvl2 Lower Resist charges and it's -207% enemy resistance :drool: Against a Fire Immune monster though, it becomes -183% at 1/5 efficiency so you can bring down 135% fire resistance to 99% with Conviction and Lower Resist combined and end up at 79% fire resistant monster when the facets kick in. Not bad :buddies: 347.445-384.615 damage against 79% fire resistance though, so 1 point Vengeance or 4 point Zeal would be nice against those.

Kamahl
02-07-2004, 18:28
garblad had a guide for this sorta thing in ch forum

Grantage
02-07-2004, 22:43
I would love to use an Ormus fball robes, but i have to use my enigma to get the rest of my gear on so i doubt ill be able to do that although i may try it out anyway. I especially thank you all of bringing up Dragonscale shield i had completely forgotten this shield existed. Dont want to be greedy but Does anyone have a Dragonscale i can have? or trade something small for?

30ofSilver
12-07-2004, 13:58
I did actually build one of these a number of months back, there was a thread here but I suspect it's long since vanished.

As other people have pointed out it's possible to get some ok synergies going with the fireball via meteor and firebolt charges getting the damage up to something decent which, when combined with firewall and conviction allows you to level very happily for a while.

Unfortunately even with pretty decent gear I found there was a point towards the end of nightmare when killing speed simply slowed down too much to be playable. This could admittedly be postponed somewhat with some really great stuff but it's never going to be a build that'll do very hell in hell imho.

Great fun though, well recomended on that front. Would love to hear if you can figure out any further tricks to improve this one.