7 Frame Singer?

[sk8brdnick]

Has anyone experimented with a singer with 200% FCR? Seems like that would be some mighty fast teleporting and you could probably stunlock the crap out of any casters? Success? Failure? What do you think?

[LeTHaL_BaNaNa]

it is possible to get with griphons, 2 wizardspikes, 2 10 fcr rings + fcr amu, skin of vipermagi, arachnid mesh and magefist that's 225 in total right?

anyways, you need to sacrifice a lot of gear to get at 7fpa and i heard that it is bugged? causes a lot of double teleports (2 teleports, 1 movement) iirc, so it isn't really that useful :(

[wvx_leader_returns]

7 fpa is VERY laggy and does double shoot a lot. It also sometimes doesnt even work. Dont go that far, its terrible.

[memememe173]

no point what so ever

too much gear sacrifice and the casting skips (two cast animation, 1 spell produced) can be quite deadly to you

[sk8brdnick]

You can hit 200 with enigma...

-griffon 25
-rings 20
-arachnid 20
-dual wiz 100
-magefist 20
-crafted amulet 20

total = 205%

Has anyone here actually tested 7fps in 1.10? There are whisperings on the sorc forum that 7fps is no longer buggy. Yes gear sacrifices are necassary, but that doesn't mean that the build isn't viable. No block sorcs are viable just challenging. With 7fps teleporting you could probably survive based on your speed rather than tanking ability (3.5 teleports per second).

[Angry]

wouldn't mana be a problem? unless you got fantastic mods with the rings and such i always had mana problems with my singer

[Rueter_Reborn]

wouldn't mana be a problem? unless you got fantastic mods with the rings and such i always had mana problems with my singer
BO and two wiz's me think mana not a problem. besides + mana charms work great...Build should have as many warcry charms as you can possibly afford.

[memememe173]

BO and two wiz's me think mana not a problem. besides + mana charms work great...Build should have as many warcry charms as you can possibly afford.
for PvP and PvM we both have great guides (PvP is stickied and PvM isn't quite done, but it's in my sig)

[mcm]

I tested this on a good connection (my friends 40 ping cable) and there was no problem with missed teleports/warcries.
The problem was mana (as it already is for this build..) just ate through it too quickly. Very good for sorcs though, easy to catch them, and 2x wiz is very nice.
If you have a 20fcr barb ammy (and/or an 08 valk, yeah yeah probably duped) this is even easier to achieve without many sacrifices.
I was contemplating this build WITHOUT warcry gcs. That is to say, boost yourself w/ 10x wc gcs, then swap them all out for mana/life scs/lscs/gcs. I used to play this build in pvp and my #1 problem was running out of mana versus casters with SS and max block. I think now that sacrificing damage for mana cost and boosting my mana at the same time would have helped a lot for some duels (high block+high es sorcs, high block/bonearmour necros in particular.)
Here's hoping that 1.11 makes warcry magic damage... and unblockable? muahaha..

[LeTHaL_BaNaNa]

BO and two wiz's me think mana not a problem. besides + mana charms work great...Build should have as many warcry charms as you can possibly afford.

me thinks you are wrong... my barb had 1500+ mana and i burned through it in seconds when crying/teleporting :/

[Rueter_Reborn]

me thinks you are wrong... my barb had 1500+ mana and i burned through it in seconds when crying/teleporting :/
I didn't realize that mana pots cost so much :P! Anyway your right the mana requirement for a singer is high. I stand before you all wrong with my assumption. Anyway have fun with the build guys.

Rueter

[Angry]

the speed of a 7 frame singer going through the health would make buying mana pots unpracticle because its not instant like rejuv pots

[mcm]

Which is why I am curious whether a lower warcry slvl (max synegy) build might be more effective... For example, instead of using 10x wc gcs for battle, only use them for pre-buffing. Then swap out for mana/life scs/lcs/gcs.
This would certainly provide for more life when comparing perfect charms (wc gc w/ 45 life < 3x 17/20 scs) and would probably solve the mana problem entirely (17 mana * 30 = ~1400 MORE mana with level 48 bo in effect.)
The question then becomes, is a warcry slvl of 20 as efficient in terms of damage per point of mana used as slvl ~40?

[memememe173]

Which is why I am curious whether a lower warcry slvl (max synegy) build might be more effective... For example, instead of using 10x wc gcs for battle, only use them for pre-buffing. Then swap out for mana/life scs/lcs/gcs.
This would certainly provide for more life when comparing perfect charms (wc gc w/ 45 life < 3x 17/20 scs) and would probably solve the mana problem entirely (17 mana * 30 = ~1400 MORE mana with level 48 bo in effect.)
The question then becomes, is a warcry slvl of 20 as efficient in terms of damage per point of mana used as slvl ~40?
in PvM yes, but in PvP I'd have to say no...I talk about this in my guide