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gvandale
29-06-2004, 14:22
Does anyone remember the old TV show, THE A-TEAM? It was awesome for many reasons, but the one that has stuck with me is this:
A group of men vastly different, together to work for a single purpose. They all had different strenghts, yet they worked together by balancing their strengths and weaknesses off each other to be one unbeatable force.

Ok so I've been tossing this idea around, I briefly let out the idea in a different post. But I'm curious to find out who here would be interested in building a team to take on the new ladder?

These are my thoughts:
1. Each character strong enough to play untwinked himself / herself.
2. Each character having strong 'team' skills that would further enhance the play of each of the other characters.
3. The characters only leveling with each other, no play outside of the team play to ensure similar levels.
4. This would be for USEast SC Ladder (season 2) whenever it begins.

So who, if anyone, would be interested in something like this? It's just an idea for now, but one that I think would / could be very fun.

g

EuroJamie
29-06-2004, 14:27
Would love to, but I'm on Europe realm :(

If anyone on Europe has similar ambitions, let me know. Perhaps we could establish a necro contingent in Europe.

47thRonin
29-06-2004, 14:29
I like the idea immensely. I feel I meet the criteria, but as I have said before, I'm rarely on; only on weekends, and even then only 3 hours of play, if I'm lucky. Great idea though.

-47thRonin

gvandale
29-06-2004, 14:29
*edit*
I'm a jerk.

Ok so, this wouldn't be a nightly thing. I mean I know that everyone here has friends they have to play with and such, and we all have demanding schedules too.

I'm talking like a real life 'team'. Say...

Tuesday 8:00pm cst
Thursday 8:00pm cst

Then leave an open slot, where we can post on the forum and say 'In game xxx looking for more teamates'.

Make a rule where 4 players must be there to actually go out and advance.

g

EuroJamie
29-06-2004, 14:31
I think you'll find that's Pounds Sterling actually :p

*skulks off to make own thread*

Glenn Cain
29-06-2004, 14:33
erm hey, this season thingy, does it mean on the new season you lose all your items from the old?

gvandale
29-06-2004, 14:35
read the different threads in every forum.

As was last announced:

Our beloved season 1 chars / items will join the duped ranks of current non-ladder characters.

*tisk tisk tisk*

g

Mad Mantis
29-06-2004, 14:48
Depending on the different classes, this could be interesting. Are there rules concerning different classes and/or builds?

gvandale
29-06-2004, 15:21
Depending on the different classes, this could be interesting. Are there rules concerning different classes and/or builds?
its just an idea for now MM, but there would be specific builds requirements.

As in the following (just an idea at this point):
1. Necromancer - Might Merc (of course)

Max Mastery
Max Warrior
10'ish CE
all curses, 5+ into dim vision

2. Sorceress - Prayer Merc

Either meteor or blizzard

3. Druid - Defiance Merc

Wind Druid

4. Paladin - Blessed aim Merc

Max Zeal / Fanatacism

5. Assassin - Holy Freeze Merc (stays intown until the skel's are up)

Phoenix Striker

6. Amazon - Barb Merc

EITHER
pj / lf javazon
or
fully synergized lf / cs javazon

7. Barbarian - Barb Merc (might taken already)

ww / bo / shout

The 8th slot could be open, or unused. Either way, I think something like this would be extremely fun. None of the builds are dependant on great gear. We could share item drops based on necessity (the barb wouldn't keep an occy) in the games we play together.

With all the mercs, aura's, etc...I think this build would waste the entire game easily!

g

Necrochild313
29-06-2004, 16:04
Me, slip and hos were thinking about getting together for lad, doing this exact same thing, hell, we should join the A-Team and do it there :D

I would take the pheonix striker, i've used them before and got her through hell.

gvandale
29-06-2004, 16:12
I'M LOVING IT!

so it looks like we could have:

hos / slip / nc / g

mm / kbob...

ya'll wanna play?

memememe173
29-06-2004, 16:21
I'll be #7, preferably the barb

Mad Mantis
29-06-2004, 16:23
Sounds nice. We should think about dividing the builds. Do we need to have one of every class?

ArcticSpectre
29-06-2004, 16:28
I'm game if you guys dont mind playing with a noob(well, compared to you guys I am lol)

I could be a cold sorcy :)

gvandale
29-06-2004, 16:31
one of every class gives many style points, and definately allows for the whole 'team' feeling.

those guidelines dont have to be followed to the tee, but those are builds I think fit into the theme of strong solo, and great team players.

gimme some input as to what you think would work as sub-builds.

g

p.s.
this is not the signup sheet, it's just an thread to post ideas. we still don't know when season 2 starts...

memememe173
29-06-2004, 16:38
Singer would make things safer...*nudge nudge*

btw, any of you have an extra (kinda good preferablly) Cerebus' Bite that you won't need when ladder ends?

gvandale
29-06-2004, 16:42
singer was my original idea for the baba, but I do not believe them to be truely solo capable in hell without being twinked. am i wrong?

g

memememe173
29-06-2004, 16:51
singer was my original idea for the baba, but I do not believe them to be truely solo capable in hell without being twinked. am i wrong?

g
solo? Like by himself...well, as long as he had mana he wouldn't die, but it'd take a long while

Mad Mantis
29-06-2004, 17:04
one of every class gives many style points, and definately allows for the whole 'team' feeling.

Not to mention that it eliminates insulting Cursing matches and War Cry karaoke.

Depending on the final build ideas, I just might have to call it quits in this stage. Since I do not like the Paladin or the Amazon I have never played anyone of those. As all of us, I’m good with the Necro. But I have not yet played the more cookie cutter builds of the other classes.

ArcticSpectre
29-06-2004, 17:06
I think it might be more interesting if we tried rogue builds.

Meleemancer.
Enchantress Sorcy.
Warcry Barb.

etc etc. Things would definitely be interesting. Mantis, if you like we could start up a rogue A-Team, by the looks of it there will be too many people wanting to play anyway, so 2 teams would be great.

gvandale
29-06-2004, 17:10
i like it.

if you check my post on this topic yesterday i originally though of including a singer for the barb variant.

i do like it though.

g

gvandale
29-06-2004, 17:18
well mm...

here's my thoughts...

Since slot 8 is undefined at this point, i kept it that way to prevent fighting. i'd like to see you come over to east for this. matter of fact, i didn't want to play the necro anyway. so it seems to be open unless you want it.

g

HarbingersOfSkulls
29-06-2004, 17:22
I'M LOVING IT!

so it looks like we could have:

hos / slip / nc / g

mm / kbob...

ya'll wanna play?

I'm game...I'd go with either:a wannabe Commando, fire elemental Druid, or a Trapper.

HoS

gvandale
29-06-2004, 17:27
see now we're talking. i'd put you in as a fire druid if ya don't mind...

Mad Mantis
29-06-2004, 17:28
I think it might be more interesting if we tried rogue builds.

Meleemancer.
Enchantress Sorcy.
Warcry Barb.

etc etc. Things would definitely be interesting. Mantis, if you like we could start up a rogue A-Team, by the looks of it there will be too many people wanting to play anyway, so 2 teams would be great.

Rogue builds are interesting. They are the reason I haven't played the cookie cutter builds.





Since slot 8 is undefined at this point, i kept it that way to prevent fighting. i'd like to see you come over to east for this.

I'm already on East. I haven't been on in a week or so because of my finals (why do I have so many of these damned things?).

If you guys want, I could go and look over the guides and play a cookie cutter build. Just don't expect me to master the build in one day.

BTW, I assume that we are going to play with doing quests in order and actually clean an area. Or are we going to TELE PLZ to Throne and then MF?

HarbingersOfSkulls
29-06-2004, 17:32
see now we're talking. i'd put you in as a fire druid if ya don't mind...

Sure...I'm going to go with a hf merc for obvious reasons :thumbsup:

I'm Hannible Smith...since I got the grey hair already(damn those kids)

HoS

gvandale
29-06-2004, 17:35
i'd want to do quests and such. i mean really work together to pillage every single act / quest in the game.

with 1 of each char, a 2nd of 1 there would be so much destruction it would be awesome.

you dont have to go cookie cutter, but so long as you can still contribute to the whole 'team' experience.

Example #1 :
necro: who cares of build, so long as you have a great arsenal of curses to help in every situation
barb: any kind, so long as you have a good supply of bo / shout
druid: who cares which type, give me some oak sage beotch!
zon: innersight me baby!
sosa: fire at least...enchant me *****
pala: gib me free fanat plz

see where i'm going with this?

example #2
So say the following:
Necro - -
Druid - HOS - fire druid
Assassin - NC - phoenix striker
Paladin - g - Fanatic Zealot
Barbarian - MEMEMEMEME - singer
zon - -
sorceress - MM - enchantress

*edit*
Dragonmaster asked for a spot, so if he wants, he can have an open slot.

still waiting to hear back from Kbob. I'd say that since mm wants a non-standard, you may be able jump in a 2nd necro slot for player 8.

g

ArcticSpectre
29-06-2004, 17:36
BTW, I assume that we are going to play with doing quests in order and actually clean an area. Or are we going to TELE PLZ to Throne and then MF?

I sure hope so too :)

Mad Mantis
29-06-2004, 17:41
Example:
necro: who cares of build, so long as you have a great arsenal of curses to help in every situation
barb: any kind, so long as you have a good supply of bo / shout
druid: who cares which type, give me some oak sage beotch!
zon: innersight me baby!
sosa: fire at least...enchant me *****
pala: gib me free fanat plz

see where i'm going with this?

So say the following:
Necro - MM - meleemancer
Druid - HOS - fire druid
Assassin - NC - phoenix striker
Paladin - g - Fanatic Zealot
Barbarian - MEMEMEMEME - singer
zon - -
sorceress - -

Meleemancer would be grand, but then we would be missing out on CE. If someone else wants to play Necro, I wouldn't mind being an Enchantress. As long as I don’t have to be a Zon or Pally.

ArcticSpectre
29-06-2004, 17:45
I think a blaze/firewall sorcy could be interesting... Gets max block and movement speed gear and just run around like a madwoman...though thats only 2 skills... Too bad it would probly suck lol

ArcticSpectre
29-06-2004, 17:49
Okay Mantis, if you go enchantress I could maybe work in a ranged meleemancer...

curses + golem + bow + CE

gvandale
29-06-2004, 17:55
does nobody here like zon's? i suppose that if nobody offers, we dont need her. she's not really a party player anyway.

so that would leave us with 1 of each, less a zon. we can definately double up on a char or two with the open slots.

g

ArcticSpectre
29-06-2004, 17:57
does nobody here like zon's? i suppose that if nobody offers, we dont need her. she's not really a party player anyway.

so that would leave us with 1 of each, less a zon. we can definately double up on a char or two with the open slots.

g

Amazon = yuk

Mad Mantis
29-06-2004, 18:03
Okay Mantis, if you go enchantress I could maybe work in a ranged meleemancer...

curses + golem + bow + CE

Ranged Meleemancer will make it easier to incorporate CE.

My preferred builds would be an Enchantress or a Meleemancer with either an IG (these can actually be effective) or a Clay, depending on Artic's choice.

Again I assume that it will be common courtesy to refrain from using such items as Demonlimb.

luis19
29-06-2004, 18:37
does nobody here like zon's? i suppose that if nobody offers, we dont need her. she's not really a party player anyway.

so that would leave us with 1 of each, less a zon. we can definately double up on a char or two with the open slots.

g
i could be a jav zon or a hybrid

gvandale
29-06-2004, 18:40
and out of nowhere comes a zon!

give me some time to figure out how i want to put this together to make it uber sexx, and you'll see a post here either today or tomorrow.

g

luis19
29-06-2004, 18:42
and out of nowhere comes a zon!

give me some time to figure out how i want to put this together to make it uber sexx, and you'll see a post here either today or tomorrow.

g
well i like zons.
now to decide what type.
bow, jav, or hybrid

Mad Mantis
29-06-2004, 18:46
i could be a jav zon or a hybrid

OMFG luis, you have Jiraiya - the Perverted Hermit as 'tar. That guy cracks me up.

luis19
29-06-2004, 19:04
yeah hes the best

gvandale
29-06-2004, 19:18
i'd think jav to be the best since the real damaging skills aren't dependant on weapon dmg. that way you can throw anything, and still get impressive dmg. whereas with bow skills, you need a nice bow.

g

luis19
29-06-2004, 20:24
yeah im thinking all lightning casue i never like the psn jav skills.

gvandale
29-06-2004, 20:26
cs is a SICK skill when fully synergized.

g

luis19
29-06-2004, 21:16
cs is a SICK skill when fully synergized.

g
and lf can clear the screen fast cept when light immunes r there

Necrochild313
29-06-2004, 21:23
The necro should be a summoner i'd say, we need some damn tanks.

Hey MM, HoS and I have both built successful enchantresses and we could lend some advice if need be.

Slip wants to join, but he can't say that b/c he's banned for a few more days :p

Don't forget him!

Mad Mantis
29-06-2004, 21:23
and lf can clear the screen fast cept when light immunes r there

But you will have back up from Enchant and a plethora of other skills. So immunities will not pose a problem.

Mad Mantis
29-06-2004, 21:25
The necro should be a summoner i'd say, we need some damn skellies.

NC is right. We need at least one Skellie using Necro. We can't betray our heritage. :p

ArcticSpectre
29-06-2004, 21:33
NC is right. We need at least one Skellie using Necro. We can't betray our heritage. :p


2 necros would be great...I can handle curses, CE, and get a clay golem for slow. A summoner could have skellies and maybe an attack skill like poison or bone? Curses wont be needed so a hybrid poison/summon or bone/summon could prolly work.

Live
29-06-2004, 21:36
Can I join? I would love to be the sommoner for you guys. I have some exp in them and I can always ask Mad Mantis for further help if needed. :thumbsup:
So, can I join? :wave:

Mad Mantis
29-06-2004, 21:53
Hey MM, HoS and I have both built successful enchantresses and we could lend some advice if need be.

Advice is something that I will always listen too. I have built an Enchantress, but some advice is always welcome. You will probably have thought of things I haven't.




He G, what is the current build list?

Tron_40
29-06-2004, 21:55
Im in if your not full yet. ill do any character that is left over

gregsexy
29-06-2004, 21:59
hey, i'd love to be the necro :) or whatever.. I could play a zeal/fanatic or zeal/cold aura. I've also played a bowazon in the past. I'd love to have a group to play with. *gregort, but i probably won't be playing until new ladder starts anyway, so don't look for me until then.

TheKbob
29-06-2004, 23:01
A few of my other online friends and I are starting another group (name isn't finalized) where I will either be playing a Summoner (most likely) or a Werewolf druid. Our setup runs:

Summoner
Hammerdin
Zealot
Trapper
Barb of sorts
Blizz or Meatorb

We may press for 8, we may not. So I would either have to fill the druid or necro slot because my first commitment is with them.

~Kbob

Azeld
29-06-2004, 23:03
I'm definitally game if you dont have a full group yet or if someone drops out. Most of my game experiance is with necros and barbs,then sorcs,druids and paladins. Never played an assassin or zon but i can learn fast so whatever class is fine.

memememe173
29-06-2004, 23:04
in honor of this

<----------------

Mad Mantis
29-06-2004, 23:08
Hammerdin
Trapper

Kbob, what happened to you? You used to hate Trapsins. And now you are partying with a Trapsin and a Hammerdin? Are you on drugs?





in honor of this

Mr. T! I mean B.A!

Now don't call your character "IPityTheFool".

TheKbob
29-06-2004, 23:14
Hammerdin = one of my best non forum friends. He has given me sooo much and I see him now as a hammerdin cause that char is his baby on ladder. I played one once, it was ok, but too slow for me at low lvls.

Trapper = I don't know her yet, just that it really is a her and her name. She likes trappers, so meh.

Zealot = An older, but cool guy. Very passive, but loves his pally. He is on the east ladder right now I think... lil_brotha is the pally at lvl95.

Barb and sorc need to be filled. Hammerdin guy wants me to play druid so I can give oak sage and give less lag, but a wolf is FAR more dependant on gear than a summoner. I havent really decided yet.

If you dont want me to join yah, by all means have someone else to take my spot. Althouth I'm still one of the best summoners around :p

~Kbob

Azeld
29-06-2004, 23:26
Kbob what type of barb are you looking for? Conc would probably be easiest to start with when the reset happens but I could handle being a WW barb or even a berserker or singer. How often are you guys going to play together?

Mad Mantis
29-06-2004, 23:26
Hammerdin guy wants me to play druid so I can give oak sage and give less lag, but a wolf is FAR more dependant on gear than a summoner. I havent really decided yet.

Smite the infidel who denies us our birth right!

Dragonmaster
29-06-2004, 23:34
I didn't exactly read through the entire post yet (will do and might edit this if I finish in time), but I'm definately in if you guys are, and if you have a class noone wants to play I'm it. I don't have huge exp with a lot of classes, but I can always read a guide and learn as I go ;). I'll play just about any build or class you guys want. Ok off to read the thread more carefully

Hornedtoad
29-06-2004, 23:44
Barb and sorc need to be filled. Hammerdin guy wants me to play druid so I can give oak sage and give less lag, but a wolf is FAR more dependant on gear than a summoner. I havent really decided yet.
~Kbob

If you want to be a melee druid that is non item dependent I would suggest a fireclaws bear/wolf. Bear is better IMO from shockwave and the ability to get a faster attack with 110 IAS phaseblade, but both are viable. They do around 4.5k damage with only 20 in Fireclaws and 4 maxed synnergies. If you want oak sage, then just drop one of the fireclaws synnergies. I tried one and liked it, but like spellcasting classes better.

Other option is wind druid with maxed Oak sage. They're pretty fun too. Hope this helps.

Mad Mantis
29-06-2004, 23:44
I don't have huge exp with a lot of classes, but I can always read a guide and learn as I go ;). I'll play just about any build or class you guys want. Ok off to read the thread more carefully

DM has a point here. I should be more flexible. So if it becomes a problem, I can switch to a standard build.

luis19
29-06-2004, 23:50
ill play ne build if someone needs another person to run with.

right now im up for the jav zon the the "a-team" thing.

but id like to try ne build

Dragonmaster
29-06-2004, 23:52
Thank ya sir ;).
And I'm assuming this is untwinked? I didn't notice anything mentioning.
And yes, I will play WHATEVER YOU WANT. You pick the build, I play the guy. I can't say how good I'll be with it though. I'm a necro first and foremost, but just use me however you see fit.

Mad Mantis
29-06-2004, 23:56
And I'm assuming this is untwinked? I didn't notice anything mentioning.

We will be beginning when Ladder season 2 starts. So there won't be an awful lot of twinking going on.

Dragonmaster
30-06-2004, 00:08
Wow that was so obvious that... I don't even know. I'm so freaking brilliant. Thanks though for clearing it up ;). Duh Pete, Duh...

TheKbob
30-06-2004, 00:14
I'm afraid our small guild is invite only and only closest friends. Means only ones I know well from online play would be invitable. Sorry.

Fire Claws druids are BAD choice for PvM. Fire immunes abound. I have had one. Tempted to do Fury//Rabies.

~Kbob

memememe173
30-06-2004, 00:53
I assume that as long as I make BO/Shout/war Cry my build is more or less up to me?

mhswrestler317
30-06-2004, 05:58
One character to consider for the 8-slot would be an Avenger. On their own, they are not very effective, but considering they more than double the elemental damage output of the party, I think they're a worth-while addition. Just my $0.02.

Mad Mantis
30-06-2004, 10:23
I assume that as long as I make BO/Shout/war Cry my build is more or less up to me?

Judging from G's post, yeah. It would be nice though if everybody posted their build. Then we can relocate points to better compliment the others.

Live
30-06-2004, 13:04
I would like to be the pure sommoner for you guys. Thats 20rs, 20sm, 15+rm, 1sr, the pre's, 10+Amp, 1 in other curses, 10+ce, 1ba, and 1teeth. That is if theres room.

gvandale
30-06-2004, 14:29
Here's what I got so far:

1. Necro - Dragonmaster - ?? (so long as it has all curses)
2. Druid - HOS - fire druid
3. Assassin - NC - phoenix striker
4. Paladin - g - Fanatic Zealot or holy freeze zealot
5. Barbarian - MEMEMEMEME - singer
6. zon - luis - lf/cs zon
7. sorceress - MM - enchantress
8. __________ - ?? - kbob

So that's what we got so far, and that looks to just about fill it. I'll throw down some 'rules' later today for us to go over.

g

Mad Mantis
30-06-2004, 15:09
So that's what we got so far, and that looks to just about fill it. I'll throw down some 'rules' later today for us to go over.

Keep it a bit light. Nothing too strict. It will only work against us.

gvandale
30-06-2004, 15:31
Keep it a bit light. Nothing too strict. It will only work against us.
with ya on that. I meant rules like:

no crying about who's cursing. this is to be settled before the onset of a game....

that aint to tight is it?

Mad Mantis
30-06-2004, 15:39
that aint to tight is it?

That is common sense. Just like, refrain from using CtA weapons when a Barb is present.

gvandale
30-06-2004, 15:49
That is common sense. Just like, refrain from using CtA weapons when a Barb is present.
if anyone on this team has a cta, i'll shoot my cat!

g

Patsy
30-06-2004, 15:56
Oh, Crappola!

I *finally* got my D2 re-re-reinstalled for just an event.. and everybody's already signed on!

Is there any room for an old has-been such as myself to join? I'd be more than willing to play on of my own 'custom' builds.

Pwease? Pwetty-pwease? :teeth:

-Patsy
"Shh.. the Maestro is decomposing."

Mad Mantis
30-06-2004, 16:09
if anyone on this team has a cta, i'll shoot my cat!

Just making statement. But if you upload a screenie... :innocent:

gvandale
30-06-2004, 16:11
wow! patsy wanting to join up?!?!?!?!

we should boot someone...maybe me?

g

Mad Mantis
30-06-2004, 16:13
wow! patsy wanting to join up?!?!?!?!

we should boot someone...maybe me?

Depending on the amount of time Patsy plays, he could be an extra member. It will probably be pretty uncommon for all of us to be online at the same time. When it happens we can decide who gets booted temporarily. Probably the highest level char.

gvandale
30-06-2004, 16:15
now that's a winning idea! i'd volunteer myself to be an alternate with patsy, because my time would be very limited.

g

Necrochild313
30-06-2004, 17:21
Slipin wants to join too. He keeps *****ing at me and HoS to keep *****ing to let him jump in.

HarbingersOfSkulls
30-06-2004, 17:32
Slipin wants to join too. He keeps *****ing at me and HoS to keep *****ing to let him jump in.

Yep...I'm gonna pay hommage to Slipin with: Banned-Aid for my fire druid

HoS

TheKbob
30-06-2004, 17:38
Yep...I'm gonna pay hommage to Slipin with: Banned-Aid for my fire druid

HoS

I saw you logging on with that... I kept any comments to myself :teeth:

~Kbob

Mad Mantis
30-06-2004, 17:46
Slipin wants to join too. He keeps *****ing at me and HoS to keep *****ing to let him jump in.

We need to work out with Slip and Patsy what characters they will be playing.

And we should see who can play when. Not that we need a strict roster, but it would improve the chances of us actually playing together.

HarbingersOfSkulls
30-06-2004, 17:47
I saw you logging on with that... I kept any comments to myself :teeth:

~Kbob

Well...Slipin and NecroChild313 both seemed to enjoy it...though Slipin is majorly bumming cuz of it and SOMEONE won't let him live it down(won't mention the person's name)

What are these comments?

HoS

gvandale
30-06-2004, 17:54
1. Necro - Dragonmaster - ?? (so long as it has all curses)
2. Druid - HOS - fire druid
3. Assassin - NC - phoenix striker
4. Paladin - g - Fanatic Zealot or holy freeze zealot
5. Barbarian - MEMEMEMEME - singer
6. zon - luis - lf/cs zon
7. sorceress - MM - enchantress
8. __________ - ?? - kbob

sub 1: Patsy
sub 2: Slippin

'sub' doesn' mean anything bad, but an extra player. I doubt there's going to be a time where all 10 are on and playing.

So patsy / sliping: submit your builds...

g

HarbingersOfSkulls
30-06-2004, 18:05
We need to work out with Slip and Patsy what characters they will be playing.

And we should see who can play when. Not that we need a strict roster, but it would improve the chances of us actually playing together.

Slipin wants to be the Summoning Necro or a wind Druid named WindyThePooh.

What the rules to thing anyway?

My main thing is to have fun and to level up as much as I can...would really stink to only use my druid in this group only...and have to start a new character to use away from the group.

I agree with the clear each area...and also the wp's.

But...with something like this group going on...It's going to be a little tough for some because they won't be on as often as someone like...me,slipin,and nc(didn't mention the kbob because he's in his own personal group...though he's on alot also).

Anyway...someone decide what the rules to this shin-dig is....and don't punish the few that are going to be higher in levels...because I will be among them.

HoS

Mad Mantis
30-06-2004, 18:11
Anyway...someone decide what the rules to this shin-dig is....and don't punish the few that are going to be higher in levels...because I will be among them.

But you can overreact. I mean it is way less fun if you are 60 levels ahead of us doing Hell Baal runs.

HarbingersOfSkulls
30-06-2004, 18:13
1. Necro - Dragonmaster - ?? (so long as it has all curses)
2. Druid - HOS - fire druid
3. Assassin - NC - phoenix striker
4. Paladin - g - Fanatic Zealot or holy freeze zealot
5. Barbarian - MEMEMEMEME - singer
6. zon - luis - lf/cs zon
7. sorceress - MM - enchantress
8. __________ - ?? - kbob

sub 1: Patsy
sub 2: Slippin

'sub' doesn' mean anything bad, but an extra player. I doubt there's going to be a time where all 10 are on and playing.

So patsy / sliping: submit your builds...

g

From what I read in this thread...that kbob is off doing his own little group thing...though it would be nice to have kbob in the mix...it will be kinda difficult(I would think) to have him split his loyalities to his invite-only group and us. And I woould sugggest having him as a sub(only cuz of his group) and bump Patsy or Slipin to a slot.

Hopefully...Patsy will bring his Mother build into this and have Slipin be his WindyThePooh.

Just my 2 cents,

HoS

memememe173
30-06-2004, 18:16
After summer holidays I could be on a fair bit (situation fully remidied and make-up classes easy) or a fair bit (situation the same, can't go to school) or very little ( situation remedied, and lots and lots of time consuming work to do)

HarbingersOfSkulls
30-06-2004, 19:36
But you can overreact. I mean it is way less fun if you are 60 levels ahead of us doing Hell Baal runs.

Some of the rules should include:

Can't leave a difficulty without a majority of the group...and help the others catch up that are not with the first group(which I never mind doing anyway)

No pubby games period(defeats the group plan)

As for items found during game play...they go to the class that is in need of it before they can be sold( learned that one with NecromancerLord in 1.09 when I did the group thing with him and a few others)

Must get all the wp's before moving on to next act(another NecromancerLord 1)which is how I play to this day anyway.

An how many people should be in a party when it's time to move on to the next act? Since I see Slipin and NecroChild313 on all the time

Too tired to think of more...so feel free to add some others.

Main thing...is that some people will be on more that others(and are in different time zones) so we need to try to setup a time that is somewhat easy for everyone in general when we start...so that someone is not starting at 4am compared to others at 8am(for example)

HoS

luis19
30-06-2004, 19:52
well im on US eastern time.
i usually play at around 10am-3pm and 8pm-3am. usually ne where in those times

Mad Mantis
30-06-2004, 20:03
An how many people should be in a party when it's time to move on to the next act? Since I see Slipin and NecroChild313 on all the time

We are with ten people IIRC. So it would be nice to the other party members if you go the next act when six of the party members, yourself included, are able to advance to the next act. They don’t have to be ingame. Just able to go the next act.





Main thing...is that some people will be on more that others(and are in different time zones) so we need to try to setup a time that is somewhat easy for everyone in general when we start...so that someone is not starting at 4am compared to others at 8am(for example)

I'll adapt to other players. I'm six hours ahead of US Eastern time.

gvandale
30-06-2004, 20:41
I'M 1 HR BEHIND EST and i can usually get on by 6pm. i'd say somewhere between 2-3 days per week (7 days) would be rad.

g

Mad Mantis
30-06-2004, 21:09
I'M 1 HR BEHIND EST and i can usually get on by 6pm. i'd say somewhere between 2-3 days per week (7 days) would be rad.

So 6 pm your time would be 1 am over here. That time is feasible in the weekends for sure and on some week days. It depends on my roster.

Dragonmaster
30-06-2004, 21:53
G I suppose I'll either go the general fishy (leaves hella points for boosting curses if I need to), or mb I'll try that poison/summon hybrid I saw a guide for ;). If you think it wouldn't be too much trouble untwinked that is. Either one is fine with me, your preference entirely

Oh and as for time, I'm eastern, and can pretty much play whenever you guys decide to, except sometime in the morning friday I have another dentist appointment (better be the last damn one).

So how exactly is this going to work? Just going to see around when everyone can play and set a time, or just whenever everyone is on? Either way works but with set times I suppose it would be a lot easier to keep everyone around the same level

HarbingersOfSkulls
30-06-2004, 22:22
I'm in Las Vegas...so I'm 3 hours behind eastern time.

And can be ready...if not start at almost anytime.

HoS

Ash Housewares
30-06-2004, 22:55
It was awesome for many reasons, but the one that has stuck with me is this:
A group of men vastly different, together to work for a single purpose. They all had different strenghts, yet they worked together by balancing their strengths and weaknesses off each other to be one unbeatable force.

plus Mr. T was in it, Mr. T rocks, and they had a cool van, and the 3rd best TV show theme song of all time

oh yea, so is this some kind of group play thingie?

I HAVE INTERNET NOW!!!!

Dragonmaster
30-06-2004, 23:02
Awesome let's kick someone out so you can join ;). Or you could be one of those "subs", even with a couple of those I doubt we will have 8 on at once often

memememe173
30-06-2004, 23:05
Awesome let's kick someone out so you can join ;). Or you could be one of those "subs", even with a couple of those I doubt we will have 8 on at once often
*hides, seeing as Ash has it in for me*

Dragonmaster
30-06-2004, 23:08
Nah noone can have it in for Mr. T, I mean come on... I PITY DA FOOL! You can't not love that

Ash Housewares
30-06-2004, 23:11
he betta run, I can Mr. T circles around that sucka

Dragonmaster
30-06-2004, 23:12
lol ok my mistake ^_^

Mad Mantis
30-06-2004, 23:25
So how exactly is this going to work? Just going to see around when everyone can play and set a time, or just whenever everyone is on? Either way works but with set times I suppose it would be a lot easier to keep everyone around the same level

Seeing as how we are all busy men (don't contradict me! :rant: ), it will be very hard to get a time when everybody can be online. It is best to set-up a general time-frame in which the chance the see another person from the group is the highest. Kind of like an orbital.

Ash Housewares
30-06-2004, 23:28
Seeing as how we are all busy men (don't contradict me! :rant: ), it will be very hard to get a time when everybody can be online. It is best to set-up a general time-frame in which the chance the see another person from the group is the highest. Kind of like an orbital.

just ask Kbob

Mad Mantis
30-06-2004, 23:29
just ask Kbob

Ask him what?

Ash Housewares
30-06-2004, 23:33
Ask him what?

about the logistical nightmare of an organized group game

Mad Mantis
30-06-2004, 23:36
about the logistical nightmare of an organized group game

That is what I remembered from the Legendary Necros. It seems best to just give a time-frame and make sure that the levels of the chars do not spread out too much.

HarbingersOfSkulls
30-06-2004, 23:47
just ask Kbob


I would message g first...since he did set this up for the most part.


Kbob has the samething going with a group of friends that's an invite only from what his post said(though I was half asleep and could have mis-read it)

If that's so...can't ask him to split his loyalities between both groups...wouldn't really be fair for kbob to be placed in that situation. That's why I suggested to have him as a sub...so that when he does have time he can join us(no matter how often it may be)

Even g has said that he was willing to share his spot with Patsy...due to the amount of time that he has.

I don't know...or can speak for anyone else...but I know that I can start between 6:30-7:00 am Pacific time(9:30-10:00 for the eastern time people) everyday of the week.

*depending what time I go to bed from playing the night before :thumbsup:

And can play on for hours at a time...no problem.

I'll be using MasterDamned2 when the ladder finally resets.

HoS

Mad Mantis
30-06-2004, 23:50
I know that I can start between 6:30-7:00 am Pacific time(9:30-10:00 for the eastern time people) everyday of the week.

I'll wait with my schedule until everybody else has posted. Since I'll be adapting to you guys.

Dragonmaster
30-06-2004, 23:53
I won't even post mine since I don't have one. Whenever is good for you

memememe173
01-07-2004, 00:02
about the logistical nightmare of an organized group gameI thought this iedea seemed familiar

being on each others AIM/Yahoo/MSn might make it easier?

Dragonmaster
01-07-2004, 00:05
good plan, want to list them in here?

Ash Housewares
01-07-2004, 00:07
mine is listed

memememe173
01-07-2004, 00:22
same with me, and I can get ICQ if needed

Patsy
01-07-2004, 04:02
Ok, what I'll go ahead and build will be 'THE MOTHER'.

Somebody's got to watch out over you kiddies, yes?

As for time, I'm 'generally' (being very fluid right now) available from 7pm-10pm, Pacific, or 10pm-1am, Eastern US time. All daylight right now, in case there was confusion.

.. that's another curse.

-Patsy
"The Hoary-Host Tube-Chute!"

HarbingersOfSkulls
01-07-2004, 04:29
Ok, what I'll go ahead and build will be 'THE MOTHER'.

Somebody's got to watch out over you kiddies, yes?

As for time, I'm 'generally' (being very fluid right now) available from 7pm-10pm, Pacific, or 10pm-1am, Eastern US time. All daylight right now, in case there was confusion.

.. that's another curse.

-Patsy
"The Hoary-Host Tube-Chute!"

I'm too old to be a kiddie...but thanks MOM.

Message me on MasterDamned then...it would be nice to finally game with the legendary Patsy finally.

HoS

Dragonmaster
01-07-2004, 04:52
Awesome, looks like quite a group we've assembled.

/me starts humming the A-Team theme

HarbingersOfSkulls
01-07-2004, 09:09
Awesome, looks like quite a group we've assembled.

/me starts humming the A-Team theme

You remember the theme song?

HoS

Ash Housewares
01-07-2004, 09:12
its a friggin awesome theme, who wouldn't remember it?

Dragonmaster
01-07-2004, 10:18
One of the best themes ever! May I be damned if I ever forget it!

Ash Housewares
01-07-2004, 10:20
Knight Rider
CHiPs
A-Team

in that order is where I put 'em, but the important thing is that those are the top3

EuroJamie
01-07-2004, 10:35
Don't remember Chips, but surely Hawaii-5-0 has gotta be in there somewhere?

memememe173
01-07-2004, 16:48
Don't remember Chips, but surely Hawaii-5-0 has gotta be in there somewhere?
Inpsector Gadget :thumbsup:

gvandale
01-07-2004, 17:00
now that's a damn song! but seriously, DUCKTALES had the most addicting theme song ever.

g

ON TOPIC: i'm good to play pretty much 2 nights a week after 6pm cst (-1 from eastern) mon-thurs

Mad Mantis
01-07-2004, 17:06
ON TOPIC: i'm good to play pretty much 2 nights a week after 6pm cst (-1 from eastern) mon-thurs

So we have heard from almost everybody when they can play. Who are still missing?

memememe173
01-07-2004, 17:16
right now during the summer I'm good any time (unless we're out at the lake) and once school starts it's any one's guess

gvandale
01-07-2004, 19:21
g i s r e t a r d e d

Mad Mantis
01-07-2004, 19:38
just an idea that may make this easier for everyone...

http://rpgforums.net/showthread.php?p=2199432#post2199432

that sounds like a half decent idea

Link doesn't work for me. What thread?

memememe173
01-07-2004, 19:51
Link doesn't work for me. What thread?
thread titled "clan" in this forum

and I'm not crazy about the idea, but wouldn't say no either

gvandale
01-07-2004, 19:56
well it just seems like a nice way to get a group of people together. i dont know at this point.

g

HarbingersOfSkulls
01-07-2004, 19:58
Give me a group of 6-7 other people besides me...that want to have fun bs'n while doing this...and can show up(at whatever time they can) each day and just do this.

It is also nice to have extra people in case some others are not on at the same time as others...because having a full game is always nice to have.

My goals for this is thing are not too difficult...clear out each area(like MM suggested)...get all the wp's in each act before moving on...and no pubby games with your "group character"(kinda defeats the group concept) until hell baal is beaten.

It would kinda suck to have a level 50+ in norm helping others that are 20+ or so...so that's another reason why no pubby games for this.

Otherwise, alot of us will be higher than the rest of the group...for those that have alot of time to do that...like myself and Slipin compared to G and anyone else that don't have alot of time.

HoS

Mad Mantis
01-07-2004, 20:00
Damn Blizz announces that the new WC3 ladder begins. I wish they hurried up with the D2 ladder.

Ash Housewares
01-07-2004, 21:15
Damn Blizz announces that the new WC3 ladder begins. I wish they hurried up with the D2 ladder.

they are, hopefully they take a couple weeks so I'm back from vacation first, I'm gonna have to switch to one of my gutted accounts to make a new ladder fabulous account

Dragonmaster
01-07-2004, 22:33
I dunno about a clan either, but like I've said I'm up for whatever you guys decide. That goes for time too, anyone see a window when most of us can?

HarbingersOfSkulls
01-07-2004, 22:50
I dunno about a clan either, but like I've said I'm up for whatever you guys decide. That goes for time too, anyone see a window when most of us can?

I have not been in a clan since 1.04...and won't start now.

If you want to call this group(or any other if this one fails for some reason) a clan then so be it. I look at this as a chance to hang with some of the others that have been on the boards for as long as I have been...to to have fun(and possibably learn something) from people that know their stuff.

It makes me wish I was a noob in a way...just to be able to hear and see first hand what each other "long-timer"S has to say and offer about the builds they like.

Sorta like the "biker build off" show...where you get the top 10 builders and they go head to head...with it ending up as all 10 working on 1 bike(and dealing with 10 ego's) and at the end of it all...pick 1 of the 10's bike as best overall.

That kinda thing...only without the ego trip.

HoS

Dragonmaster
01-07-2004, 22:52
HoS you make a lot of sense ^_^

Mad Mantis
01-07-2004, 22:58
I dunno about a clan either, but like I've said I'm up for whatever you guys decide. That goes for time too, anyone see a window when most of us can?

Patsy = 10 PM to 1 AM.
G = starting from 7 PM on Mon-Thurs.
HoS = starting from 10 AM.
Luis = 10 AM to 3 PM and 8 PM to 3 AM.

This leaves Dragon, NC, Kbob, Ash, Slip and me undecided.

But from the time table above, I would say any two days from Monday to Thursday, starting from about 8 PM to 1 AM Eastern Time. That means we can start at about 1 AM GMT and end at about 6 AM.

G, are you sure that weekends are off for you?

memememe173
01-07-2004, 23:01
Patsy = 10 PM to 1 AM.
G = starting from 7 PM on Mon-Thurs.
HoS = starting from 10 AM.
Luis = 10 AM to 3 PM and 8 PM to 3 AM.

This leaves Dragon, NC, Kbob, Ash, Slip and me undecided.

But from the time table above, I would say any two days from Monday to Thursday, starting from about 8 PM to 1 AM Eastern Time. That means we can start at about 1 AM GMT and end at about 6 AM.

G, are you sure that weekends are off for you?
that would make it 6-11 for me...which would seem to be the perfect window

gvandale
01-07-2004, 23:03
weekends aren't off for me, but it's pretty spotty. i work the 2nd job on weekends, especially at night (i'm a waiter). after that, on friday's I hit the gym...

so we'll see

g

Mad Mantis
01-07-2004, 23:04
Near the weekend I can easily make it on at those times. But at the beginning of the week, it is more of a hassle. I'm not saying impossible, I just need to plan it better. So I am voting for one day near the weekend.

Ash Housewares
01-07-2004, 23:04
I'll only be around until the 4th or 5th

Dragonmaster
01-07-2004, 23:04
6-11, is that eastern time? And the evening, not the morning? Sorry I'm slow today. If so if we could possibly avoid the weekends I'd really appreciate it.

Oh wait you said monday-thursday anyway, that's good for me

HarbingersOfSkulls
01-07-2004, 23:11
6-11, is that eastern time? And the evening, not the morning? Sorry I'm slow today. If so if we could possibly avoid the weekends I'd really appreciate it.

Oh wait you said monday-thursday anyway, that's good for me

I'll be ready 6:30-7:00 pac time...if not earlier.So if this is going to be buy eastern time then 10:00am or before that is for me...and got all day.

I'll get all the rest I need when I'm dead.

HoS

HarbingersOfSkulls
01-07-2004, 23:14
Patsy = 10 PM to 1 AM.
G = starting from 7 PM on Mon-Thurs.
HoS = starting from 10 AM.
Luis = 10 AM to 3 PM and 8 PM to 3 AM.

This leaves Dragon, NC, Kbob, Ash, Slip and me undecided.

But from the time table above, I would say any two days from Monday to Thursday, starting from about 8 PM to 1 AM Eastern Time. That means we can start at about 1 AM GMT and end at about 6 AM.

G, are you sure that weekends are off for you?

NC and Slipin are on before me most of the time...so since it seems that most of us have a 10:00am start time it seems....just make it that then and we can always help the others that come in later in the afternoon catch up.

Besides...if anyone needs to level up to catch up with the group( if they are behind in levels or whatever) they can always message me to help out.

HoS

Dragonmaster
01-07-2004, 23:15
Haha that's a good quote, an original or did you rip it off from somewhere? ;)

Hmm well I'm completely confused with all the time zones and the ams and the pms and the prime meridian, so if someone would just tell me when and where when it's all figured out I'd be very gracious ^_^

Mad Mantis
01-07-2004, 23:16
The times listed by me were in Eastern, simply because that was the first time zone to be mentioned. I do not want to have to go through all American time zones.

I'll try to get on at the beginning of the week, but is there anybody who wouldn't mind playing around the weekend sometimes?

Mad Mantis
01-07-2004, 23:19
so if someone would just tell me when and where when it's all figured out I'd be very gracious ^_^

We start around 20:00 Eastern time and we stop around 01:00 Eastern time.

Dragonmaster
01-07-2004, 23:20
Most of the time I will be able to play on the weekends. But once in a great, great while (frequency is determined using lunar cycles and stonehenge) I actually do something on the weekends. I just didn't want to be MIA, but weekends is fine most of the time, if you don't expect me 100% of the time ;)

And thanks a lot for the clarification MM, 20 eastern is hmm... 8 oclock right? Sorry I'm not all that used to the 24 hour system even though it is much better imo =P

HarbingersOfSkulls
01-07-2004, 23:20
Haha that's a good quote, an original or did you rip it off from somewhere? ;)

Hmm well I'm completely confused with all the time zones and the ams and the pms and the prime meridian, so if someone would just tell me when and where when it's all figured out I'd be very gracious ^_^

I've used that quote since the early 80's...even before metallica first came out.

check your pm.

HoS

Mad Mantis
01-07-2004, 23:25
I just didn't want to be MIA, but weekends is fine most of the time, if you don't expect me 100% of the time ;)

And thanks a lot for the clarification MM, 20 eastern is hmm... 8 oclock right? Sorry I'm not all that used to the 24 hour system even though it is much better imo =P

Yep, it is 8 oclock.

Nice to see that there will be at least one person to help me catch up to the group.

Dragonmaster
01-07-2004, 23:32
Yup I'd be glad to help, chances of me not being around are slim to none anyway.

memememe173
01-07-2004, 23:39
some where between 30-50% of weekends I'll be without internet acsess, otherwise I'm good (unless we stay at lake for extended pierods)

Glenn Cain
02-07-2004, 03:28
did anyone thing of a necro-only A-team? pretty possible, considering necro can even melee

Shadow-Walker_
02-07-2004, 04:48
guess i looked into this a little late : ( what would have been a perfect opportunity to test out the arctic druid. hmph oh well ill wait till seasons 3 >_<

Dragonmaster
02-07-2004, 07:46
Yes Glenn someone did there is a thread somewhere called the dark horde or something like that where they are doing that I believe.

Hmm I'd say I have about a 90% chance of being around on the weekend

HarbingersOfSkulls
02-07-2004, 17:25
Yes Glenn someone did there is a thread somewhere called the dark horde or something like that where they are doing that I believe.

Hmm I'd say I have about a 90% chance of being around on the weekend

Originally...that's what I thought it was going to be or at least mostly Necro's. But...after making 4 Commando's I needed something else besides a Necro to be...and after finding Mep's Fire Druide thread wanted to try that.

Besides...any group should have at least 1 Druid in it anyway.

HoS

Dragonmaster
02-07-2004, 18:57
Hmm looking back at the "who's doing what" list, I have two questions
1. MM, are you doing a ranged or melee enchantress? I'm guessing melee, and ES or no? Just wondering.

2. g, did you decide between fanat and freeze? Skellies <3 fanat but both work.

HarbingersOfSkulls
02-07-2004, 20:39
Hmm looking back at the "who's doing what" list, I have two questions
1. MM, are you doing a ranged or melee enchantress? I'm guessing melee, and ES or no? Just wondering.

2. g, did you decide between fanat and freeze? Skellies <3 fanat but both work.

Well...if G went with freeze...he would give you the chance to raise your army regardless.

I would think that MM could go with both...since the stat points are basically they same anyway for both ranged and melee.

HoS

gvandale
02-07-2004, 21:08
g decided to go with fanatic zealot. it's a standard party friendl build that is also pwnage solo style. here's the layout:

Skills:

20 - Sacrifice (syn to zeal)
20 - Zeal
5 - Holy Shield (more added here late game)
20 - Fanatacism
1 - Holy Freeze (helps in certain situations)
1 - Prayer / Defiance / Cleansing / Vigor / Redemption / Salvation
rest in blessed aim for hidden ar bonus

Stats:

Str: 110-120
Dex: 100-110
Vit: Rest
Nrg: Base

Obviously Fanatacism helps the entire party, and that is the main aura. But holy freeze is there when needed (flayer jungle) and of course the bevy of defensive curses is very helpful to everyone!

This is the basic setup i've used since 1.08, less the synergies of course. Works extremely well like I said in either parties or solo play.

g

TheKbob
02-07-2004, 22:08
4 Commandos HoS, wow. I'm only on my 2nd.

My availability will be shot all to heck when college rolls around. 4 Years of fun fun fun fun... (translation: Mindnumbing, smelly, hard work!)....

~Kbob

HarbingersOfSkulls
02-07-2004, 22:15
4 Commandos HoS, wow. I'm only on my 2nd.

My availability will be shot all to heck when college rolls around. 4 Years of fun fun fun fun... (translation: Mindnumbing, smelly, hard work!)....

~Kbob

When you find a build that works...stick with it. Besides...it gives me the best of everything really...a Summoner(cuz to cause lag is always important)as well as the chance to melee if I feel the need to.

After making almost every build in the game...the Commando is my favorite.

But...need a well deserved break from it...and liked what I read about Mep's Fire Druid to want to try it.

HoS

Mad Mantis
02-07-2004, 22:24
1. MM, are you doing a ranged or melee enchantress? I'm guessing melee, and ES or no? Just wondering.

Melee to start with, but ranged on switch.

I don’t think I’m going to use ES. I’ll get a few points in Lightning Mastery and Shiver Armor. And maybe some in T-storm.
The LM will allow me to deal with FI’s and the SA will boost my defense. Together with Defiance and Shout that should give me a lot of defense.
T-storm is fun and I want to see if it is semi-helpful. The idea of an attack I do not need to watch is appealing. If anybody has ideas on T-storm do tell me.

Alternatively I could max TK, put a point or so in ES and dump the remainders in SA.

Solarious
02-07-2004, 22:26
Hmmnn... would it be possible if I joined as a backup zon? I'm looking forward to the new ladder season (and currently saying goodbye to my current ladder characters), and this seems to be an interesting way to start the season. I'm interested in that Magic Arrow zon that was recently posted on the Strategy Compendium, and I'm not on that frequently anyways, so I won't be around that much to cramp into this group.

AIM me on Holy Rabite (not on that much right now), and I should be on around the weekends on the afternoon. I'm in the Eastern Daylight Time (ie. GMT -4 hours).

BTW, a useful link (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/) for you guys.

shavo
02-07-2004, 22:38
hey who is doing necro
if no one is doing necro can i be necro
im always constantly on studying the necros techniques and expirementing with my own
i think i will be a very useful accet to your company.. er team

:buddies:

HarbingersOfSkulls
02-07-2004, 23:38
hey who is doing necro
if no one is doing necro can i be necro
im always constantly on studying the necros techniques and expirementing with my own
i think i will be a very useful accet to your company.. er team

:buddies:

So far...Dragonmaster and Slipin are doing Necro's(who's backing up who I don't know)...but as you know anything can happen.

HoS

memememe173
02-07-2004, 23:52
I'm thinking I might makea booyoka, though that's not much of a tank..

Mad Mantis
02-07-2004, 23:57
I'm thinking I might makea booyoka, though that's not much of a tank..

Between G and me and the summons of Dragon, we should be able to hold out nicely while you jump around tactically.

memememe173
03-07-2004, 00:05
Between G and me and the summons of Dragon, we should be able to hold out nicely while you jump around tactically.
:drool: hurray!

Mad Mantis
03-07-2004, 00:14
:drool: hurray!

Just gib BO and Shout!

Dragonmaster
03-07-2004, 00:21
Sounds like a plan. Assuming there aren't any weird changes with the new ladder (like those special whatevers they mentioned) that screw any builds up. But I seriously doubt that, 1.10 was the last major skill balance patch right? But anyway now I just wish they'd hurry up >_<

TheKbob
03-07-2004, 00:43
Melee to start with, but ranged on switch.

I don’t think I’m going to use ES. I’ll get a few points in Lightning Mastery and Shiver Armor. And maybe some in T-storm.
The LM will allow me to deal with FI’s and the SA will boost my defense. Together with Defiance and Shout that should give me a lot of defense.
T-storm is fun and I want to see if it is semi-helpful. The idea of an attack I do not need to watch is appealing. If anybody has ideas on T-storm do tell me.

Alternatively I could max TK, put a point or so in ES and dump the remainders in SA.


What about me, am I still in, yes, no?

With an enchantress I wanna try going Frozen orb, I think you should too. 1 pnt in cold mastery and 20 in orb + other skills is ended by upper 80s, not too hard to get.

~Kbob

Dragonmaster
03-07-2004, 00:46
As near as I can tell you are if you want to be. How do that time frame MM mentioned look to you?

HarbingersOfSkulls
03-07-2004, 02:36
What about me, am I still in, yes, no?

With an enchantress I wanna try going Frozen orb, I think you should too. 1 pnt in cold mastery and 20 in orb + other skills is ended by upper 80s, not too hard to get.

~Kbob

Your going to split between the A-Team and your other group? If you are that would be cool.

HoS

Ash Housewares
03-07-2004, 02:38
whos in this? whats the realm? I never got the details

Dragonmaster
03-07-2004, 07:37
East, I don't remember who all is in but it was on page 6 somewhere, sorry I'd look but my internet is running slow >_<

Mad Mantis
03-07-2004, 14:23
With an enchantress I wanna try going Frozen orb, I think you should too. 1 pnt in cold mastery and 20 in orb + other skills is ended by upper 80s, not too hard to get.

That's not the point. Getting FO with an Enchantress feels like getting a lot of CE with a Meleemancer. Something feels just wrong.





whos in this? whats the realm? I never got the details

We will be playing on UsEast. The timeframe when most people will be online is any two days from Monday to Thursday, starting from about 8 PM to 1 AM Eastern Time. Some of us will also be playing around the weekend at about the same time.

The people currently participating are: Dragonmaster, HoS, NC, G, Meme, Luis, MM, Kbob, Slipin, Patsy and you. A lot of builds are still unkown. What is certain is that G is playing a Fanatic Zealot, HoS is a Fire Claws Dr00d, Dragon will be some kind of Necro and I will be a Melee Enchantress.

HarbingersOfSkulls
03-07-2004, 18:16
That's not the point. Getting FO with an Enchantress feels like getting a lot of CE with a Meleemancer. Something feels just wrong.






We will be playing on UsEast. The timeframe when most people will be online is any two days from Monday to Thursday, starting from about 8 PM to 1 AM Eastern Time. Some of us will also be playing around the weekend at about the same time.

The people currently participating are: Dragonmaster, HoS, NC, G, Meme, Luis, MM, Kbob, Slipin, Patsy and you. A lot of builds are still unkown. What is certain is that G is playing a Fanatic Zealot, HoS is a Fire Claws Dr00d, Dragon will be some kind of Necro and I will be a Melee Enchantress.

HoS is a Fire elemental Druid
Dragonmaster is a Summoner
G is a Fanatic Zealot (like you already said)
Patsy is a Mother
MM (you) are a Enchantress
Luis (believe was a Zon)
Slipin (believe wanted to be a Windy Druid)
Memememe713 is a Barb
NecroChild313 Assassin

Anyone I left out...sorry but don't remember the builds.

HoS

Mad Mantis
03-07-2004, 18:51
What are the accounts of all you guys? I have NC, Kbob, Meme and HoS.

Slipin
03-07-2004, 23:23
*Slipin, I wanted the Summoner, or Windy dr00d is fine. I'm on all day on weekdays, and am gone from 6-9 on weekdays(night classes :cheesy: )

Dragonmaster
03-07-2004, 23:49
Hmm my acc is 1337Pete but I might make a new one when ladder starts, I'll post that if I do

Mad Mantis
04-07-2004, 11:39
*Slipin, I wanted the Summoner, or Windy dr00d is fine. I'm on all day on weekdays, and am gone from 6-9 on weekdays(night classes :cheesy: )

Say Slip, it would be nice if you posted your time zone. For all I know you could be talking about 6-9 Kamchatka.

Necrochild313
04-07-2004, 16:51
Slipin lives a hop, skip, and a jump away from me, so his time zone is the same as mine :p

Mad Mantis
04-07-2004, 17:07
You're also from Kamchatka? :cheesy:

Patsy
04-07-2004, 17:08
What are the accounts of all you guys? I have NC, Kbob, Meme and HoS.

My account is under the name of 'Patsay', being some troll took MY name already! :rant:

Hmmf! :grrr:

Anyway, I'm likewised hooked up with HoS (who is an old fart such as myself), along with the others that you have named.

-Patsy
"That's a real shame when folks be throwin' away a perfectly good white boy like that."

Mad Mantis
04-07-2004, 17:13
Anyway, I'm likewised hooked up with HoS (who is an old fart such as myself), along with the others that you have named.

Add *Mad-Mantis to your list.

HarbingersOfSkulls
04-07-2004, 17:28
My account is under the name of 'Patsay', being some troll took MY name already! :rant:

Hmmf! :grrr:

Anyway, I'm likewised hooked up with HoS (who is an old fart such as myself), along with the others that you have named.

-Patsy
"That's a real shame when folks be throwin' away a perfectly good white boy like that."

I'm not an old fart...I'm Old-School.

There is a big differnce ...you know

:drink: :buddies:

HoS

Slipin
04-07-2004, 18:36
I'm eastern zone.

Mad Mantis
04-07-2004, 21:21
So Ash and Kbob, what will your builds be?

memememe173
04-07-2004, 22:03
wah, I'm running out of f list room...25 names my *** :rant:

Ash Housewares
04-07-2004, 22:45
frenzy barb is what I'm best at, but I don't know that I want to go over to east and do this

Mad Mantis
04-07-2004, 23:01
frenzy barb is what I'm best at, but I don't know that I want to go over to east and do this

You should do what you want. Search in your heart and all that stuff. :drool:

HarbingersOfSkulls
04-07-2004, 23:02
frenzy barb is what I'm best at, but I don't know that I want to go over to east and do this

Well...you did try to go over to East with the Trang's build thing that was happening at that time...but ended just going back to the West.

Even if this doesn't work out somehow...I'm going to have a small group of my own to do this with...because it seems like whenever these group idea's come around...they seem to fall apart some way after a short time.

And I actually want to see it through...with very simple rules:

1) We clear out each area...like Mad Mantis said ealier in this thread.

2) We get every wp in each act before killing the boss and moving to the next one.

3) We only play these characters in our group *until the goal is reached of killing hell Baal. Otherwise...it defeats the purpose of playing as a group.

Other than that...it's about having fun...leveling..and alot of bs'n.

HoS

memememe173
08-07-2004, 02:57
http://www.rpgforums.net/showthread.php?t=218878

news

Slipin
08-07-2004, 03:16
wow...blizz kept a promise of "soon" I'm impressed...

Patsy
08-07-2004, 03:19
So we'll *finally* be able to get this thing started?

I've been wondering if the time I spent in figuring out the right outfit for my motherly persona was ever going to come to fruition.

-Patsy
"Does this make me look fat?"
"No, your butt does."

PS: I've noticed that the forums have removed the color option. How annoying.

HarbingersOfSkulls
08-07-2004, 03:31
So we'll *finally* be able to get this thing started?

I've been wondering if the time I spent in figuring out the right outfit for my motherly persona was ever going to come to fruition.

-Patsy
"Does this make me look fat?"
"No, your butt does."

PS: I've noticed that the forums have removed the color option. How annoying.

I know I'm ready for this thing to happen

HoS

memememe173
08-07-2004, 03:41
I'm still undecided...booyoka or singer...

Meosha
08-07-2004, 03:47
I don't suppose it's too late for me to join up?

Acct *Kandarin

Mad Mantis
08-07-2004, 09:13
wow...blizz kept a promise of "soon" I'm impressed...

Me too. This probably is a way of making up for completely gimping the Necro in the new Ladder patch. :uhhuh:





PS: I've noticed that the forums have removed the color option. How annoying.

No more green quotes. :hanky: And still no :point:





I'm still undecided...booyoka or singer...

You should do what you want. Search in your heart and all that stuff. :drool:





So...ehm...guys, when will we start this shindig?

Slipin
08-07-2004, 10:17
I'm IM'ing HoS the second it starts :p and anyone else on for that matter.

memememe173
08-07-2004, 15:29
I'm awake...

Slipin
08-07-2004, 16:08
well..you maybe awake, but there no reset :hanky:

OldSkoolGamer
08-07-2004, 16:08
I'm Old-School.

:scratch:




"That's a real shame when folks be throwin' away a perfectly good white boy like that."

I always love the endings of your posts, Patsy. :lol:


I just wanted to wish you all luck and good times. I would join you, but I've set my mind to get my current Necromancer, SumnerMortanius, to 99. Plus my play times are never the same as anyone elses.

Mad Mantis
08-07-2004, 16:15
well..you maybe awake, but there no reset :hanky:

Tomorrow morning, GMT 1130, they will start the server reset.

memememe173
08-07-2004, 16:38
Tomorrow morning, GMT 1130, they will start the server reset.
as in a whole day from now? :(

Necrochild313
08-07-2004, 16:42
poo

thats suxxxor

TheKbob
08-07-2004, 16:54
I just collected a runemaster back from a friend, bought my Lad Freezer a Beast Zerker ( I made it :drool: ) and 4 offensive aura charms on non, has 2 shapeshifters on non lad waiting for lad druid, has a +22 life summon charm on that said lad druid for Commandomancer. Will prob buy some more offensive and ss charms.

Remade barb in hopes of 4xShael Griz caddy now. Put Death Clever on paladin.

Now it's a waiting game.

I need to get a +4 ondals too.

Im waiting to choose my char class after I see what blizz has in mini patch. I'm thinking my bone necro = done if they burn the marrowwalk "feature and//or bug" If they do that, cold sorcs = best pvp then :hanky:

I wanna see if there are any char nerfs or enchancements. Better or lesser skeles, Hammerding nerf, Cold sorc nerfs... just gotta wait and see.

~Kbob

Mad Mantis
08-07-2004, 17:11
I wanna see if there are any char nerfs or enchancements. Better or lesser skeles, Hammerding nerf, Cold sorc nerfs... just gotta wait and see.

Just wait and read the readme.

Actually, I’m rather pleased that the reset isn’t until tomorrow. Right now I cant play, but tomorrow I have my last final. By the time you guys wake up, I’m ready and can go out and play all day/night long.

TheKbob
08-07-2004, 17:35
I gotta work tomarrow and I may have a date... :lol:

Screw ladder reset if I have a date :uhhuh:

~Kbob

Edit: Isn't it ironic they are doing it almost on the day after Ash leaves :lol:

Mad Mantis
08-07-2004, 17:53
Isn't it ironic they are doing it almost on the day after Ash leaves :lol:

That was the second thing that popped into my head after seeing the message.

Hypnectic
08-07-2004, 18:47
Well this is just a guess but will the darkforge's xfer over to regular bnet? since its resetting, will my closed Bnet nonladder necros be able to sport this super sweet shield now? Since I was never able to get my hands on one in ladder, will we non-ladder chars be able to use them?

hypN3Ctic :evil:

Dragonmaster
08-07-2004, 19:09
Alright I fixed my modem (blew out a few days ago) so I hear reset is happening eh? Today? Hmm are we all playing today? Damn stupid thing... I'm so confused now

Edit::: Hmm ok now as far as I can figure it resets tonight at 7:30 east. Anyone have any awesome name ideas for my necro?

Mad Mantis
08-07-2004, 19:51
Since I was never able to get my hands on one in ladder, will we non-ladder chars be able to use them?

Yes. Non-lad chars will be able to use the lad-only items.

Mad Mantis
09-07-2004, 09:53
Season 2 begins with a new race to the top of the Ladder! Blizzard hits you with more goodness as we release 23 new Ladder-Only Runewords for the 1.10 patch! We'll continue to track the top players throughout the Season and post the final rankings at the end on Battle.net. Be sure to check back here throughout Season 2 for further updates!

Man, this is going to be grand!

TheKbob
10-07-2004, 04:16
Well It seems that they have been glued a bit too much to their screens so..

It looks like from what this outsider has noticed that all is fair. MM was the last I do believe to join their lot. Hos with the druid, NC a mancer, Memememememe his booyak, and MM with his sorc.

I'm not with them, but I am lvl 50 with my summoner. I got bumped off the ladder by another one of my fellowship members... :cheesy:

~Kbob

Dragonmaster
10-07-2004, 06:50
Forget about me? =( heh

Mad Mantis
10-07-2004, 13:44
Forget about me? =( heh

When are you on dude?

Mad Mantis
10-07-2004, 20:05
Thanks to NC, HoS, Kbob, Meme and Slip for helping me level. :drink:

So far the Enchantress is fun, but weak. It will take me a few more levels before I will be useful to the team.

Dragonmaster
10-07-2004, 21:07
at night, or now, or whenever. To tell the truth I don't sleep/stay awake for a set number of hours or at a set time so I dunno.

Mad Mantis
10-07-2004, 21:14
Just look for us when you are online. You do have our accounts right?

Dragonmaster
11-07-2004, 00:06
Yuppers, sexy enchant sir ty. GOGO BEING ABLE TO HIT STUFF. Not that I couldn't before, but I can forsee that becoming a problem later since I'm not getting any dex

memememe173
11-07-2004, 00:43
Yuppers, sexy enchant sir ty. GOGO BEING ABLE TO HIT STUFF. Not that I couldn't before, but I can forsee that becoming a problem later since I'm not getting any dex
amen brother

Mad Mantis
11-07-2004, 14:14
Yuppers, sexy enchant sir ty. GOGO BEING ABLE TO HIT STUFF. Not that I couldn't before, but I can forsee that becoming a problem later since I'm not getting any dex

Things are picking up right now. The bonuses are increasing and the duration is 5 minutes. I just didn't expect the character to be this weak. And since I was accustomed to two-handed Meleemancers with a lot of BA this demanded a small change in playing strategy.

Patsy
11-07-2004, 17:23
Fellow Necromancers-cum-A-Team II,

First, I would like to express my pleasure over the past couple of weeks or so over gaming with you all. I must say that it's been quite enjoyable and I look forward to more sessions.

But I would like to ask some questions about leveling, namely assisting those that are lower-level as well as any mercenaries that are in need of leveling. I know that there are either some late-comers and/or ones that are starting over as well as some downright pitiful mercs. I'm one of the later.

I guess it's a 'rules' question, because I don't want to slow the party down, but egad, I would like to simply level my merc some more, barely being into his teens in level. I wouldn't want to magic find, go on those 'runs' that everybody talks about, or do any killing on my own as a matter of fact, only level my merc, period.

But I'll let it be voted on or whichever is best for the party. Oh, and speaking of, should I keep my Prayer Mercenary, or change it to another type once they become available?

Inquiring minds want to know.

-Patsy
"Blood is thicker than water..
..and tastier, too!" (http://forums.rpgforums.net/forumdisplay.php?forumid=18)

Mad Mantis
11-07-2004, 17:30
I would like to simply level my merc some more, barely being into his teens in level. I wouldn't want to magic find, go on those 'runs' that everybody talks about, or do any killing on my own as a matter of fact, only level my merc, period.

But I'll let it be voted on or whichever is best for the party. Oh, and speaking of, should I keep my Prayer Mercenary, or change it to another type once they become available?

He Patsy,

if I ever see you online, I'll be happy to help you level your Merc. Mine could do with some levelling as well.

Just keep the Prayer one for now. Can't hurt.

Dragonmaster
11-07-2004, 19:52
I think you can do all of that as long as you don't solo get ahead of everyone else. I think it is three min to go to a new act. otherwise level him all you want. I think though not positive.

And I'd keep prayer, seems we are getting most of the a2 types somewhere or another

HarbingersOfSkulls
12-07-2004, 18:30
I think you can do all of that as long as you don't solo get ahead of everyone else. I think it is three min to go to a new act. otherwise level him all you want. I think though not positive.

And I'd keep prayer, seems we are getting most of the a2 types somewhere or another

Kinda defeats the whole purpose to level a merc in a solo game when it is low...that happens to be one of the toughest parts for the merc...since everyone knows that the more people in a game the more exp the merc will get "from the owner of him's kills".

What I've noticed so far about this group idea...as difficult as it is for everyone (all 8) to get into a game...a some in totally different time zones...that getting all of us in 1 game probably will never happen. Most we have had in 1 game was 6 and that was good for the time that it happened and was alot of fun with Patsy doing what he does best.

Seems like we can get between 3-5 online at the same time most of the time...which would normally be ok for leveling purposes and for moving onward because of the 3 person rule. But seems that we can't get the entire people in a group to do so...for whatever reason there is.

And that makes it even tougher for some to move on to the next act...and for that reason I myself had to make a new character since it was almost impossible to get 3 into a game at the same time.

This does make you see why other groups like the Kbob's Trang's group and the others in the past have failed...everyone wants to do it but when it's time to "put up or shut up"...most just shut up. The rules (and everyone agreed to) are not that difficult...what has proven difficult is actually getting the people that are on in a game with the rest of those that have decided to make this group work.

HoS

Necrochild313
12-07-2004, 19:08
The inactivity in the group is bad, when some are on nonlad when could be helping the group and leveling thier characters, so we don't have to go so far back to catch them up.

I'm tempted to say that the 3 rule needs revising to two, since that seems to be more of a handicap than a guideline with so few active members.

memememe173
12-07-2004, 19:19
well, I'm there online lot of the time, just whisper me...untwinked boyooka doesn't do super well by himself...and I'm doing this more for the group feel any way...so if you want me whisper me

gvandale
12-07-2004, 19:25
everytime i get on, i dont see anyone. and kbob never responds to me (i know he's not on this thing, but i just ask for people's accts.)

g

HarbingersOfSkulls
12-07-2004, 19:35
everytime i get on, i dont see anyone. and kbob never responds to me (i know he's not on this thing, but i just ask for people's accts.)

g

*MasterDamned2

I'm on alot.

Also...you would need to have WLoK in the name.


HoS

Mad Mantis
12-07-2004, 21:05
We knew when we started out that things would be difficult. But I'll try to be on more.

I started when you guys had already reached Act III. That put me at a disadvantage. Thanks to NC, HoS, Dragon and Meme, I'm starting to get by. Some heavy duty levelling, after I burned the counter off my Mule, should be enough to at least be able to follow you guys around.


Say HoS, do you only play the WLoK characters, or do you have some MF-ers?

HarbingersOfSkulls
13-07-2004, 00:17
We knew when we started out that things would be difficult. But I'll try to be on more.

I started when you guys had already reached Act III. That put me at a disadvantage. Thanks to NC, HoS, Dragon and Meme, I'm starting to get by. Some heavy duty levelling, after I burned the counter off my Mule, should be enough to at least be able to follow you guys around.


Say HoS, do you only play the WLoK characters, or do you have some MF-ers?


We play only WLoK...and do have mfer's in the group(myself and nc) and whoever else there is also.

HoS

HarbingersOfSkulls
13-07-2004, 07:02
Well...I manged to get someone that will be more active and be on longer also out of his retirement and even had him switch over to East as well...my good friend(and Road Dawg) LyteHammer.

So at least now when there's 4-5 people on...there will be a better chance of getting 3 people into the group game instead of being off doing whatever it is that they have been doing(be it Ladder or Non) and it's not just any 1 person.

Thanks for join up with us Hammer,

HoS

Beatboxer
13-07-2004, 09:56
big azz thread.:surprise:

Dragonmaster
13-07-2004, 10:47
k I'll more than likely be on more than I was the last few days, I'm not really sure WHAT the deal with my key is, but it is working right now. Hopefully staying that way.

Mad Mantis
13-07-2004, 15:20
Thanks for join up with us Hammer

Sweet, Hammer is back. :clap: What will he be playing and what is his account?

memememe173
13-07-2004, 17:11
I think we should all get to one place in the game, and just stall for a bit until everyone is caught up...

HarbingersOfSkulls
13-07-2004, 20:48
Sweet, Hammer is back. :clap: What will he be playing and what is his account?

Hammer's account is LyteHammer

He's a old-school 2-handed mace 'zerker Barb.

HoS

Mad Mantis
13-07-2004, 20:50
Next time I’ll just try somebody’s forum name and see if it works. :p Should be fun seeing Hammer in action.

HarbingersOfSkulls
13-07-2004, 20:59
I think we should all get to one place in the game, and just stall for a bit until everyone is caught up...

I would agree to do that...because the people like Patsy and Mad Mantis really do deserve the right to level those merc's of theirs...no matter what others might think or feel about it.

They have been with this group from the start...and have not tried to do any non-ladder stuff...and they have been left out for the most part because of not having enough people in the game to follow the rules...or because of people with lower levels than them come online(as we are helping Patsy or MM) and we go help the other person...leaving them high and dry.

Due to Patsy's extended patience...and after what happened last night...I'm gonna take it upon myself to get Patsy to where he should be in nm(since he has to wait for going on 3 days now)

Also...on a brighter note...we finally have the group slacker back on track...and should have no further problems with him(I won't mention his name...huh Slipin?)

HoS

Necrochild313
13-07-2004, 21:09
WTF?!! SLIPIN IS A SLACKER!!??? OMG NO WAY!!!!!!! :rant:

HarbingersOfSkulls
13-07-2004, 21:37
Patsy...since I see your in lurking mode...come to our game...we got 4 in it so far...and level your merc if you want.

HoS

Patsy
13-07-2004, 21:41
I would agree to do that...because the people like Patsy and Mad Mantis really do deserve the right to level those merc's of theirs...no matter what others might think or feel about it.

They have been with this group from the start...and have not tried to do any non-ladder stuff...and they have been left out for the most part because of not having enough people in the game to follow the rules...or because of people with lower levels than them come online(as we are helping Patsy or MM) and we go help the other person...leaving them high and dry.

Due to Patsy's extended patience...and after what happened last night...I'm gonna take it upon myself to get Patsy to where he should be in nm(since he has to wait for going on 3 days now)

HoS

Pwaise de lawd an pass de red pants (http://www.groton.k12.ct.us/WWW/fsr/images/store/red-pants.jpg)! :clap: :clap:

I got tired of my merc dying every 13.8 seconds (on average), but then after got onto the next level, the rate dropped to him dying every 2.5 seconds (on average).

I was told that my 'prayer' merc was aptly-named for he had a 'prayer' for surviving NM at his level.. which was proven true.. so painfully, expensively true..

-Patsy
"Go-Go Level 13 Prayer Merc!" (http://www.havingnocolorsbothersme.com)

Mad Mantis
13-07-2004, 21:43
I got tired of my merc dying every 13.8 seconds (on average), but then after got onto the next level, the rate dropped to him dying every 2.5 seconds (on average).

My Merc needs some AI transplantation. I believe the AI of a Tomb Reaver Revive would be nice. Sometimes he just refuses to move. Maybe he likes looking at the pretty Hydra's.

Mad Mantis
13-07-2004, 22:53
It was fun seeing all of us together. You guys gave me some mad exp. My Moron didn't die and I actually owned some Death Lords.

This is getting better and better. I also found out that I had been an idiot and didn't pump my Vit and res. That explains why I had a tough time.


What is Pea's account? For those that do not have mine (you do have mine, don't you Patsy?) *Mad-Mantis.

Patsy
14-07-2004, 01:17
Maybe he likes looking at the pretty Hydra's.

:lol: :thumbsup:


It was fun seeing all of us together. You guys gave me some mad exp. My Moron didn't die and I actually owned some Death Lords.

This is getting better and better. I also found out that I had been an idiot and didn't pump my Vit and res. That explains why I had a tough time.


What is Pea's account? For those that do not have mine (you do have mine, don't you Patsy?) *Mad-Mantis.

I don't think that I do, MM, but I'll make note of it. Everything aside, the bnet notation for various commands was somewhat confusing at the start, but I'm getting better. :cheesy:

-Patsy
"My brainium hurts." (http://www.pleasegiveusourcolorback.com)

Mad Mantis
14-07-2004, 15:04
but I'm getting better. :cheesy:

Sometimes I forget the * when whispering to someone.

Dragonmaster
14-07-2004, 18:06
confusing because it suxxors imo, what with /r not working in games and all kinds of weird stuffs. Hmm anyway with a bit of luck and someone getting on aim someday I'll be on more often in the future guys sorry

oh and if you guys haven't finished leveling your mercs I'd be glad to join you, mine fell behind me. Stupid Azrael...