Kingslayer WW question

[DOC]

Would a kingslayer sword be good for a pure WW pvp barb. And it so, what to put it in? As for skills im thinking to max

20 WW
20 Shout
20 BO
20 Mastery
and then spread the rest among NR, Speed and Iron skin. I cant get a BOTD anything, so i know that that is out.

[acceleration turkey]

Would a kingslayer sword be good for a pure WW pvp barb. And it so, what to put it in? As for skills im thinking to max

20 WW
20 Shout
20 BO
20 Mastery
and then spread the rest among NR, Speed and Iron skin. I cant get a BOTD anything, so i know that that is out.

+30% Increased Attack Speed
+230-270% Enhanced Damage (varies)
-25% Target Defense
20% Bonus To Attack Rating
33% Chance of Crushing Blow
50% Chance of Open Wounds
+1 To Vengeance
Prevent Monster Heal
+10 To Strength
40% Extra Gold From Monsters

kingslayer is an ok WW weapon. unfortunately your weapon choice is fairly limited.

the last WW breakpoint for swords is -35, and so you would need a base of [-5] or less in order to his -35 with the 30% bonus on the item. the highland blade is the perfect choice.

Highland Blade
22-62 1 hand (42 average)
67-96 2 hand (81.5 avg)
171/104 str/dex
[-5] base speed
range 3

this sword has the -5 speed you want and also 4 max sockets. it has fairly steep requirements and so you might want to go with a 1 handed sword if you are trying to tweak life

Cryptic Sword
5-77 1 hand (41 average)
99/109 str/dex
[-10] base speed
range 2

the cryptic sword has much lower requirements and also does slightly (slightly!) less damage, and has less range, and cant be held 2 handed. basically you only want this if you want higher life. otherwise the highland is superior.

as for kingslayer itself, the crushing blow and open wounds make it very appealing. if you wear steelrends duress and gores, you end up with around 80% crushing blow and 80% open wounds. plus it has a defense cut mod and an AR% mod, and does ok damage (around +250% is ok to me). overall i consider kingslayer one of those pvm runewords like crescent moon, because what you are really paying for is the vengence skill when you make this, and prevent monster heal. for a conc barb or fury wolf the addition of vengence means you can deal with phys immunes without dropping defense like berserk and without spending points in fireclaws. but +1 to vengence isnt useful for pvp, so in general for pvp i would say you could do better for the same price as the runes for kingslayer. but it can hold its own.

[DOC]

what else are you suggesting for the same price as kingslayer? Its hard to find anyone who can refer to a WW barb in PVP who does not use BOTD

[acceleration turkey]

what else are you suggesting for the same price as kingslayer? Its hard to find anyone who can refer to a WW barb in PVP who does not use BOTD


i dont do any trading, so i cant comment on an equivalently priced item. it just seems overpriced for pvp, and so i would trade towards a better weapon with the runes, not necessarily *for* a better weapon. you may have to sell off other goodies as well.

[Sim.The.GoSu]

Doc, a good ww weap is Cmoon Legen Sword...

[Lunatic]

Doc, a good ww weap is Cmoon Legen Sword...
Crescent moon is far from a good WW weapon. You need a WSM[-15] or lower weapon in order to hit the last WW break. And in comparison to kingslayer it sucks even more for WW.

just compare the usefull mods.
Crescent moon.
+20% Increased Attack Speed
+180-220% Enhanced Damage (varies)
Ignore Target's Defense
-35% To Enemy Lightning Resistance
25% Chance of Open Wounds
+9-11 Magic Absorb (varies)

Kingslayer.
+30% Increased Attack Speed
+230-270% Enhanced Damage (varies)
-25% Target Defense
20% Bonus To Attack Rating
33% Chance of Crushing Blow
50% Chance of Open Wounds
+10 To Strength

Kingslayer has more IAS , more %ed , more open wounds then crescent moon.

The -35% lightning resistance is almost useless for pvp , same goes for the ITD. The magic absorb can be alittle usefull , although it's still a low number.

The -25% defense from kingslayer works for pvp , and the same goes for the 20% AR. You also get 10 str and 33% CB with it.

All these things together make kingslayer alot superior to crescent moon for pvp.

[DOC]

And yet A kingslayer is still not a good choice? All well, I guess I wont be remaking my 1.09 pvp barb.

[Omikron8]

If you are on ladder a regular death cleaver or razor's edge (also non ladder) axes should do fine in pvp for their high deadly strike, speed and open wounds. The cleaver has range 3 which is just as good as the elite swords.