Your first character in the fresh ladder season?

[Matt]

Assuming you are starting over on the new ladder scene (I assume most of us are..) What will your first ladder character be?
Im thinking:
Trap assassin (strong even with the most basic gear)
Summoning Necromancer (load up on MF and let the skeles kill)
Sorceress (surviving could be a problem, but a good mfer if she works out)
Javazon (once you get a titans, you are golden. where to mf though?)
Barbarian (I'd be pretty popular with the baal runners, decent mfer, though slow, could BO later characters)

Ideas?

[Ka0s047]

Sorc for me...Meph runner. I want to actually be some what wealthy in the new season...Since im just now reaching that point...:\

[tooie1]

Assuming you are starting over on the new ladder scene (I assume most of us are..) What will your first ladder character be?
Im thinking:
Trap assassin (strong even with the most basic gear)
Summoning Necromancer (load up on MF and let the skeles kill)
Sorceress (surviving could be a problem, but a good mfer if she works out)
Javazon (once you get a titans, you are golden. where to mf though?)
Barbarian (I'd be pretty popular with the baal runners, decent mfer, though slow, could BO later characters)

Ideas?

I think you're going to be best off with a char who is not that item dependent, i.e trapsin, summoning necro, javazon, hammerdin, wind druid. Depends on what your early goals are: running ladder, staying alive, mf-ing (probably all of the above)

I think it also depends on whether you have a team or are going to mainly solo. I'd be interested in getting a team going for the reset.

Getting an enchant sorc, even a lvl 40 one, going early will make easier for all your subsequent chars.

[MoUsE_WiZ]

Javazons with a valk can MF pindle no problem.
The only trick is getting through hell.
Then you've got a char who can;
-Run pindle to equip future chars
-Be eagerly sought after for baals
-Kill very well with limited gear, the survival factor isn't as high as with necros or traspsins though. With valk and passives it's not too horrible though. You don't need titans at all, just some mana after kill or leech.
-Kill cows to equip your stylish LLD/PKs
-GoGo CS PK

A zon is decent untwinked, not the best, but playable, and is versatile for what you want to use it for. As such a javazon is going to be my first try.
If I can make my computer cooperate and not drop me every 3 seconds that is.

[Matt]

Hmmm... Of those 3, I'd say this order:
Mfing, staying alive, ladder running.
Thats right, mfing OVER staying alive. If my character can do enough runs to get me an item base, and then dies, I'm fine with that. Im not saying do 15 runs then die, but I would be ok with a short life span of finding lots of items... then I can start a new character with what the old one found, and put surviving over mfing.
I hope that made some sort of sense. I'm thinking a trapassassin will be my first, maybe a cold sorc (assassin for mfing pindle, shenk, eldritch etc) Sorc for mfing anc. tunnels, meph. I could also substitute a necro for the trapassassin, they are pretty comperable in terms of play style, survivability, killing power etc. The necro is slower but safer, also more versatille (can take most any area, sins cant touch light immunes much) Hmm... Ive talked myself into a necromancer!

-Matt

[Mr.Bogohossian]

most people with 2 computers running diablo will start a barb for boing as the first character. for the rest of us, its likely to be sorcs, of course hammerdin, winddruids and trapsins could be the other choices. yup all mages.

[tomatoman]

im makin a barb druid or necro

[ConnerMacleod]

First char? Oh that's easy. Enchantress. Get her to 54 and then the rest of the season is a cake walk.

[ElPatron]

MF sorc followed closely by BO barb(I have two cpu's ) :thumbsup:

[Matt]

I thought you could run 2 copies of D2 from one computer if you have 2 CD keys? Is that true? If so, I plan on making a BO barb and MF sorc... If its not, Necromancer probably, maybe sorceress... from all my posts, you can see I'm very unsure :lol:

[xeyloderixed]

mine is going to be a necro. why? because norm and nm are basically cake walks, it's only hell that is a problem for most chars. if you have someone that can solo/rush/help in hell, all the better. and of course, necros are the least item dependent character in the game.

my second is probably going to be a sork, just because she is efficient at mfing. but actually, maybe not, because i hate sorks with a passion nowadays. probably enchantress (doesnt count as sork) or maybe a trapper (the safest, 3rd most efficient eld/pindle runner)

[Avarielle]

Either blizzardess or meteorber, I haven't had too much trouble surviving with them so far and they've been basically unmaxequipped except for what they found, sooooo, yea, an mfer sorc of some type =).

[MentalQuest]

I could make the same skelles build over and over again and I still want get bored of it...though I dont want to start over cause I just started and I still want my items I am just about rdy to mf The pits in hell...are the next char gonna be usable? ...if everyone goes to the next season and the HC chars go to some next place away from non ladder and current ladder...I will be all alone :(

[ConFusion]

Meteorb for sure, timing on ladderreset just couldn't be better, lost nearly 95% of my wealth in 1 day a few days ago (2 sorcs died: 1 w/ cta, full tals, storm, anni etc. which is hard to get for a legit player and other one was with storm, harle (ias/13 all res), anni and some medium gear).

I loved playing with my meteorbsorc and I'm sure as hell she'll own everything as soon as she can run the pit safely again. Magic find is not really necessery, just running a lot matters. God, I LOVE this announcement. :D

[Matt]

dont meteorbs need a lot of skills? I thought they were a very effective, though pretty item dependant build?

[NightShade]

Barb. 2handed. Whirler.


Same as always

[WingBlade]

dont meteorbs need a lot of skills? I thought they were a very effective, though pretty item dependant build?
In the later stages yes.... but still viable

[billy_goat]

I'm gonna make a orb sorc :D

[LuckyDwarf]

I'll probably use a cookie cutter sorceress build for mephisto or something. That is, unless they change something. They said we were in store for more. :)

Lucky

[Silkweed]

Probably a telesorcy, now that I've seen what one can do.

[WingBlade]

Probably a telesorcy, now that I've seen what one can do.
Uhmmm.... u nvr used tele on a sorcy?

[Avarielle]

I think he means level 20 teleport without +skills.

[Noah-Izumi]

I think he means lvl 20 telekenesis for a very efficient Energy Shield

[NightShade]

50% damage to mana items and lvl 16 tk + e sheild is quite fun. espescially with BO

[ReformedYokel]

Melee pally.

I'll play him until I get sick of not being able to kill with zero items, but he'd prolly die before then.

After that, who knows?

[MarkN]

Seen as I can run 2 games of D2 on 1 pc, I think Ill:

Make an enchantress
enchant a strafezon who clears the tal rasha tombs (mlvl 80, highest fire resistance critter is 50)
enter the tomb I cleared with a barb with max find item and tons of MF to hork the corpses.


how does that sound?

[Rekoc]

Sounds like a lot of time and work :)

[ConnerMacleod]

Mark, that sounds like alot of work ;) Only use an Enchanter to turbo level through normal, that's all they are good for.

[ramadash]

iim definately going for enchatress, then mf sorc. then any chars i may want.

[MarkN]

You're prolly right. It's just, I got tired of the regular MF methods.

Shenk & Eldritch: get you almost nothing off them
Pindle: done too often
Meph: dont even start about this
Baal: need high end gear which I dont have(xcept skelliemancers who are boring)
Pits:same as above
Cows: might be a good option, I could enchant a javazon, hopefully the enchant damage pierces along?

^^ all IMO.

[GridReaper]

Prolly a trapper or summoning druid 'cause I'm lazy and a coward when it comes to melee.

Personally, I'm hoping for a new 1.1x update as well to mix the game up a bit, like Holy Bolt damaging demons to make Cleric builds more viable.

[Unholy_VI]

This time around my first char will be

either a Skellenecro, Trapper, or a holy freeze or shock paladin. I like the paladin and trapper more than the mancer but I've had my best success getting to high level with a mancer although my trapasin lasted almost as long.

A holy freeze/ shock guy is great to do normal and NM cows and absolutely obliterates Normal and NM. so thats still possible.

Ok I decided. I'll do the trappersin. not as boring as the skelliemancer, not as fun as the paladin but viable all the way through hell diff and very strong with crappy gear.

:scratch:

Or maybe.....

[Frozen Napalm]

Im prolly gonna make sorc to PA/MF but who knows. 8)


So whos gonna make the no item lvl 10-20 charge pkers and kill everyone tryin to get a quick start? 8)

[Palm]

Sorc all the way. Tho the first char I take to hell will prolly be a barb. Hard to play untwinked sorcs in hell.

[NeoHydragen]

Fire Trapper again, worked beautifully the first time. I'll do it again. Maybe this time I'll hold #1 sin for more than an hour :scratch:

[invispoet]

I think blizzard should wait to reset the ladder. I've been deployed to iraq for the last 10 months, and i know MANY people out here that would love to be part of the 2nd ladder season. It'd truly suck to have to come back in and not be in the running for the #1 HCL character...last season i had to leave when i was contending in the top 10, back when the top HCL character was still around lvl 70...those were the days.

[stevethatsmyname]

Seen as I can run 2 games of D2 on 1 pc, I think Ill:

Make an enchantress
enchant a strafezon who clears the tal rasha tombs (mlvl 80, highest fire resistance critter is 50)
enter the tomb I cleared with a barb with max find item and tons of MF to hork the corpses.


how does that sound?

Instead of strafezon.... Try exploding arrow-zon. The exploding arrow will hit the whole pack (with enchant enhanced dmg). It will then pierce to nex monster, and hit the whole pack again (with enchant enhanced damage) etc etc etc. I think it will do a little better than strafe, not sure though.

[Frozen Napalm]

Well wit all these chars listed here lets hope we have some tanks besides summoning necros =/

[CreLuSioN]

i gonna make a javazon

cows here i comeeeeeeeeee !!!!!!!!!!!!!

i hope the ladder gets reset very fast cause my lvl 77 trapsin (only high char i had left) just died so

RESET THAT LADDER ^^

[NeoHydragen]

Well wit all these chars listed here lets hope we have some tanks besides summoning necros =/

Now that everyone knows what chars are the "power killers" there woln't be any melee chars right away on the new season. Everyone wants their own power killer right away so they can MF and build their item base and trade to become rich. I knew that was going to happen around week 2 of the first ladder season when everyone and their mother was building a hammerdin.

[Aerath]

No clue yet :)

[tdallow]

Yeah, ill probs go my skelemancer/bonemancer hybrid.. heh just gotta get me hands on marrowwalks got me self a 1.5k to 2k bonespirit.

[Zavior]

I'll make Orb / TE / ES sorc for mephisto. Orb is also best for boosting friends ;o

[Baroni]

Hammerdin for me. I just love those crazy whirly hammers.

[Winona]

Definately a Summoner/necro with bonespirit this time. The only safe way to get past Hell Ancients. Ill let him do some mf untill i get some base items for a telekenisis mephrunner. Then lastly a WW Baba.

The rest of the chars i dont care to play any longer. I made guardians of most classes in my 1.10 days. Only had real fun playing the necro, the baba and the sorc.

Then im reclaiming my wealth. I dont care much about ladder.

[EcROt]

strafezon :O

my fav char class/build. doesnt require godly gear either :P

[det]

FO/Enchantress.

If the ladder season is as long as the current one, I need a character that can really boost the killing power of my new characters, raise their AR and hold her own in a (KTA) Party.

30-40 points in FO and CM, 40-50 points spread over Warmth, Enchant and FM. Rest maybe in TK

[cyradis2003]

I think he means lvl 20 telekenesis for a very efficient Energy Shield

I think he means cookies and milk ....

oh ... wait ....


I am gonna make a trapsin! or or or .... I dunno yet, I was getting bored with my current chars. Someone toss me an idea for an odd but viable build please!

[cyradis2003]

Seen as I can run 2 games of D2 on 1 pc, I think Ill:

Make an enchantress
enchant a strafezon who clears the tal rasha tombs (mlvl 80, highest fire resistance critter is 50)
enter the tomb I cleared with a barb with max find item and tons of MF to hork the corpses.


how does that sound?

How? I asked in here before but no one explained ... I have 2 sets of legit cd keys ... well ... legit unless Target has become a HAXXOR!

[mestre]

I hope you all enchantress meet me in games so you enchant my duall axe barb. I love them, hey are easy to use, don't require a lot of strength, and can do well with some fast descent damage axes. After all, if I'm lucky I could even find some death cleavers or razor's edges :)

Well, not that soon, I believe...

[SCaVeNGeR]

I don't understand why u guys are already discussing this... I mean Bliz has just announced there will be a ladder reset so it will probably take them another two years to make it happen ;)

Anyways,
I think I'll start off with a javazon, trapper or meteorb sorc :P

SCaVeNGeR

[Prez]

Summoning Necro most likely. Maybe one with some bone skills. Although with no marrowalks initially (i wonder if the bug is really a bug and they fix it?) to start with the bone skills won't be impressive.

I'll believe a reset when i see it.

Prez

[nailstabber]

My first try on a javazon ever (and since1.10 ) is still my best and highest char: lvl92 in 4 days and only by doing solo pindleruns from lvl 80 on...

So it'll be a javazon for me for sure^^

[Malachi]

My first new character after reset will be... a single player non realm character.

The ladder is pointless with all the cheats and hacks. 3 sorcs on the Europe ladder top 10 are actually pindle bots, what an achievement to be immortalizing by blizzard. The ladder has been a perfect example on how cheaters prosper on battle.net. Maphack keeps them alive, allows them to run the bigger mf area's needed to get rich fast, allows to run telebaal and such. All the rune duping truly ruined the economy only a few weeks after the ladder was started. Blizzard cant maintain a realm, that much they have proven over the last 5+ years.

[jbshifter]

Bo barb along with a pure orb sorc for mf, 2 comps = good. :drink:

[nebby]

I don't understand why u guys are already discussing this... I mean Bliz has just announced there will be a ladder reset so it will probably take them another two years to make it happen ;)

Anyways,
I think I'll start off with a javazon, trapper or meteorb sorc :P

SCaVeNGeR

Yeah, no doubt. I've seen enough of what they call "coming soon" to not really be too excited.

Also, I guess I'm having a hard time working up enthusiasm to do it all over again, knowing that botting&maphacking can't be stopped, hence the economy will be pointless in 2 months anyway. Sorry to be a downer, but we've been through this so many times, all for incredibly short periods of good challenging gameplay that it just doesn't still hold the excitement for me to throw out all my characters and start over again.

To stick to topic: if I were to do it all over again, I suppose the trapsin is really your best choice by far- you can totally do it with purchased gear from anya & larzuk, and its safe and easy to mf with.

[RealityIsTheKey]

Necro Summoner for me...

[kurg]

Instead of strafezon.... Try exploding arrow-zon. The exploding arrow will hit the whole pack (with enchant enhanced dmg). It will then pierce to nex monster, and hit the whole pack again (with enchant enhanced damage) etc etc etc. I think it will do a little better than strafe, not sure though.

With a decent enchant, you only need 1 point in exploding arrow (and max pierce). It works WAY better than multishot and strafe, mainly due to each monster getting hit by multiple explosions.

This IS the fastest way to level a character in the game (up until there are lots of fire-immunes). She can easily solo normal cows in 8 player games at lvl 15 for example.

I'm going to do this, just to build my javazon - start her off with 1 point in exploding arrow.

Anyway, my friend and I decided to build a BO barb and enhantress (who will double as a telesorc through normal) first. After that, probably a javazon and necro (for ancients) and a meteorb sorc (double as a telesorc). Nothing else is really necessary. A javazon and meteorb sorc (with BO + enchant) are about the best combo killers in the game - all 3 elements, teleport, have good meatsheilds, and able to take on the most powerful crowds and dispose of them quickly.

[lextalionis]

50% damage to mana items and lvl 16 tk + e sheild is quite fun. espescially with BO
actually its damage reduced by mods that you want to find, Damage to Mana will help you very little. Don't get me wrong its not a bad mod to have, but - damage(not minus %damage) can make you near invinisible.

[FoG]

Probably a barbarian cuz i'm original :drink:

[0takuPryd3]

I'm gonna laugh at 50% of this thread when Blizzard makes it so that low levels can't be enchanted. If they fix a few things, I bet this will be one. Also, I don't see why people are making chars to help their later characters... that's what other people are for. By the time you level your super awesome character aids, you could just get BO and rushes (if they aren't fixed) from other people.

Anyway... I'm making a trapsin. As everyone knows, they are cheap, safe and efficient levelers and finders of good items. I also have had a lot of fun in the past few weeks doing repeated Hell Baals, which I always thought were boring. Therefore, I will plan on leveling a character a bit and a trapsin would be the most fun while still being an efficient killer. Javazons are fun as well, but would require more items and such.

[xeyloderixed]

My first new character after reset will be... a single player non realm character.

The ladder is pointless with all the cheats and hacks. 3 sorcs on the Europe ladder top 10 are actually pindle bots, what an achievement to be immortalizing by blizzard. The ladder has been a perfect example on how cheaters prosper on battle.net. Maphack keeps them alive, allows them to run the bigger mf area's needed to get rich fast, allows to run telebaal and such. All the rune duping truly ruined the economy only a few weeks after the ladder was started. Blizzard cant maintain a realm, that much they have proven over the last 5+ years.

tell me about it.

i am blessed in that i know quite a bit of people running the ladder. the thing about running it is, you get to know just about everyone else running it, and that means any 95++ character you dont see is a bot. just look at east: even the great starzia doesnt know the top 16 sorks (i think he only knows 12 of em). for him to be lvling with a lot of people to get to 97, its hard for him to not know EVERYONE 95++.

but with that said, im still going for the nec ladder. it is so awful, that my 4 month dead nec is still in the top 10 as we speak -.-

[mama_hc]

firewall/blizz/static(tele) MF sorc do NM meph for some gear.(all u need is a leaf staff - really easy)
BO Tank Sword/Shield barb to Bo sorc to do hell rush (ihave 2 pc with D2).
than i can do hell meph and pindle easy with sorc
than i have enough gear to do what ever i want - just like that

mama :flip:

[mama_hc]

My first new character after reset will be... a single player non realm character.

The ladder is pointless with all the cheats and hacks. 3 sorcs on the Europe ladder top 10 are actually pindle bots, what an achievement to be immortalizing by blizzard. The ladder has been a perfect example on how cheaters prosper on battle.net. Maphack keeps them alive, allows them to run the bigger mf area's needed to get rich fast, allows to run telebaal and such. All the rune duping truly ruined the economy only a few weeks after the ladder was started. Blizzard cant maintain a realm, that much they have proven over the last 5+ years.

If u play single non realm, what the hell will u care about ladder reset

mama :flip:

[mama_hc]

I don't understand why u guys are already discussing this... I mean Bliz has just announced there will be a ladder reset so it will probably take them another two years to make it happen ;)

Anyways,
I think I'll start off with a javazon, trapper or meteorb sorc :P

SCaVeNGeR

if u don't understand why we discussing this, why are u discussing this?

what are u? sheep!

mama :flip:

[mama_hc]

Instead of strafezon.... Try exploding arrow-zon. The exploding arrow will hit the whole pack (with enchant enhanced dmg). It will then pierce to nex monster, and hit the whole pack again (with enchant enhanced damage) etc etc etc. I think it will do a little better than strafe, not sure though.

sorry, 4 post in a roll (i just start reading this)

that is why ppl keep trying to get/trade the unique longbow (build in exploding arrow) to enchant lvling any class char.

dont waste a skill point in exploding arrow :innocent:

mama :flip:

[Cleglaw_Himself]

Wow, go away for 2 days and Blizzard pulls a fast one.

I assume they mean June 30?

If so, I'll start a tppk bonecro... :) Only char I haven't tried yet!

[kurg]

I'm gonna laugh at 50% of this thread when Blizzard makes it so that low levels can't be enchanted.

Well that would be very different than anything else blizz has done. To make certain skills not affect certain characters would be a drastic change for blizz. Would they also nerf BO from affecting low characters? And battle command? What about paladin auras? Enchant will still be around, I'll almost guarantee it. They may nerf its synergy a bit, but that doesn't matter for purposes of leveling low characters (even 100 damage would be enough for lvl 1-20 characters).

Also, I don't see why people are making chars to help their later characters... that's what other people are for.

Yes, other people who grab all the good items (and bad too for that matter), who use maphack, who TPPK you, who portal-trap you, etc, etc.

Better to play with a friend, 4 or 5 CD keys, and share 1/2 of the drops in a 5 player game plus have enchant and BO too.

Javazons are fun as well, but would require more items and such.

Javazons require nothing more than a set of cracked javs and blue potions. Maybe ancients pledge for resists. I don't understand why people claim they need titans, etc for their javazon. Its completely unneccessary. Sure its a luxury, but not neccessary at all.

[slick4hire]

I think blizzard should wait to reset the ladder. I've been deployed to iraq for the last 10 months, and i know MANY people out here that would love to be part of the 2nd ladder season. It'd truly suck to have to come back in and not be in the running for the #1 HCL character...last season i had to leave when i was contending in the top 10, back when the top HCL character was still around lvl 70...those were the days.

PM me if you get an opportunity... Just curious what branch/unit.

[Randal.Flag]

Seen as I can run 2 games of D2 on 1 pc, I think Ill:

Make an enchantress
enchant a strafezon who clears the tal rasha tombs (mlvl 80, highest fire resistance critter is 50)
enter the tomb I cleared with a barb with max find item and tons of MF to hork the corpses.


how does that sound?To me that sounds like fun, however I'm pretty sure most of the corpses will just disappear if nobody is around to see them.

[Kitriara]

Frost Zealot pally! I hope that this comes on a Friday or something so I can dedicate a weekend to ladder running, see if the build can live up to my expectations.

Last ladder I ran around with a Javazon and keeping the top 10 until leveling became tedious hell baals and I just quit.

I anticipate massive summoner necros, hammerdins, trappers and javazons. There's your ladder right there. =)

[Liessa Wyrmbane]

I'm going with Frost Zealot too (after reading Kitriara guide :)). I'd like to go with Wind druid too, but pala comes first I think. I can't stomach building a sorc, hammerdin, trapper, javazon or summoner at the moment...

[RottweilExpress]

Trapsin, hands down.

[fe-crazywolf]

new character build if they don't fix stuff is to play the leacher where you are the least contributing member of the party but still reap the benefits of quests etc.. later on when your character becomes stronger you will be able to help others out. I think many people will actually be playing this 8th class, of course, one can always set up a quest/ baal team of 7 hammerdins and some other character to mow down monsters effectively but how would this be fun? :scratch:

[lextalionis]

new character build if they don't fix stuff is to play the leacher where you are the least contributing member of the party but still reap the benefits of quests etc.. later on when your character becomes stronger you will be able to help others out. I think many people will actually be playing this 8th class, of course, one can always set up a quest/ baal team of 7 hammerdins and some other character to mow down monsters effectively but how would this be fun? :scratch:

Get two or three of those leechers in a game without powerful(tweaked) characters and you won't move. Games will be slow. That's not to say support characters aren't useful. I'm sure a SINGER barb would make a great character for the ladder. Not because he can do any damage, but because he can tank, he can stun, and he can BO/BC everyone else in the party. But a second one in the party is pretty useless.

[Cwibster]

Blizzard sorc for me. Starting it with 2 mates who are gonna be fire and light sorcs too so we've got the best of 3 elements :uhhuh:

Havn't tried it before so we'll soon find out if it works :thumbsup:

[mls17]

just curious, would an enchantress be able to enchant a necro's skelleton army? i'm pretty sure it can but never heard anyone talk about it.

[sohcan]

A monk/ranger, doh! That's guildwars, my bad. :D

I may come back and play a druid through if they actually reset the ladder.

[Rekk_Dalton]

First char will be a 'porter

15 (min) Teleport
10 points in warmth (might cut to 5)
Max Frozen Orb
10 points in Cold Mastery

Then either max telekinesis/es or ice bolt and finish up cold mastery

Now i just need a group for the best legit teleporter in the realms

[sohcan]

just curious, would an enchantress be able to enchant a necro's skelleton army? i'm pretty sure it can but never heard anyone talk about it.

Minions I would assume can be enchanted because I do recall people enchanting mercs in Baal runs when I was still playing.

[Christor]

A monk/ranger, doh! That's guildwars, my bad. :D

I may come back and play a druid through if they actually reset the ladder.

Awww...why must you tease us with mentions of Guildwars? :lol:

We don't all have computers capable of running it, otherwise I'd become an alpha tester in a flash. :teeth:

On another note, it'd be great to have you back when the ladder resets!

[0takuPryd3]

First char will be a 'porter

15 (min) Teleport
10 points in warmth (might cut to 5)
Max Frozen Orb
10 points in Cold Mastery

Then either max telekinesis/es or ice bolt and finish up cold mastery

Now i just need a group for the best legit teleporter in the realms

tele/tk/es/fo/cm/warmth. In order of importance. Energy shield is a life saver, and CM > Ice Bolt.

[Rekk_Dalton]

I'm not gonna wait till level 50 to max my only offensive spell....

Might do tele 10, fo max, tk, es, warmth...

also, max block or high fhr and 105 fcr?

[lextalionis]

just curious, would an enchantress be able to enchant a necro's skelleton army? i'm pretty sure it can but never heard anyone talk about it.
You can, but... Here's the thing, the blighters move around so much its hard to tell which ones you have and haven't enchanted. Plus they tend to be recast a lot, so you have to continually stay on top of it. Enchant at high levels lasts forever. So it might not be as bad as I'm making it out to be, since once you cast it on a skeleton it should last for the life of the skeleton.

But there was a lot of talk about it as 1.10 came out. But as a practical matter it really wasn't that fun and it was hard to do. Plus you have to have an enchantress and summoner in the same game.

[lextalionis]

I'm not gonna wait till level 50 to max my only offensive spell....

Might do tele 10, fo max, tk, es, warmth...

also, max block or high fhr and 105 fcr?

This really isn't a bad idea at all for the ladder. You wont' have the killing power, but you should make a great run to NM Baal character. FO isn't nothing either.

I also agree that a sorceress should go max block since it gets barely anything for putting points into vitality.

Good luck and maybe right up a guide, talking about its usefulness as a early ladder character.

[DFA-FrstbyteOO]

I think I might make and enchantress followed by a BO barb and then a MFer (sorc prolly)

and Matt I didnt read thru all of these and you might have been answered already, but it requires TWO pc's to run two copies "legitly".

[inic]

Making my own variant MA assassin, which is the strongest build imo. Uses MA skills heavily with BFury, Dsentry, CoS, Venom and BSentinel. Few other skills too. Awesome build but only for experienced Assassins

[Piggy]

I reckon I'll make a trapper or a skelly necro and have to get a sorc going for sure.


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[SnowDrake]

I think I missed something... why is it good to get so many points in teleport now? As far as I recall, it doesn't give any synergies, and it's only bonus is a lower mana cost?

Anyways, I will either be a meteorb or a blizzard sorc...

Not really sure which is better. Speaking of which, anyone care to offer a comparison?

[w.t.g]

Belive it or not, i never had a good hammerdin pala in season 1, so i might just start UberLamerEnigmaTeleHammerdin in season 2 :idea:

[lextalionis]

I think I missed something... why is it good to get so many points in teleport now? As far as I recall, it doesn't give any synergies, and it's only bonus is a lower mana cost?

Anyways, I will either be a meteorb or a blizzard sorc...

Not really sure which is better. Speaking of which, anyone care to offer a comparison?
Snow,

The reason is exactly the lower mana costs. Especially when using an energy shield. A few hits can put a hurting on your mana supply. Without godly prebuffs and items your mana won't be as high as normal.

So on my first teleporters that just try to rush to leveling zones like Baals minions, I would put some points into Teleport~10, I would max TK, I would have active an ES, a cold armor, a defiance merc, and as much FCR and FHR as I could must. Then fill up my belt with Mana potions. You don't die on a run from running out of life... normally its from running out of mana. Lowering your teleport to a more manageable level and putting yourself in a spot where you can take a few hits, really helps you teleport. Especially if you aren't running maphack.

But in a ladder run, you want to get to places quickly to MF and to gain experience quickly. So what will happen is they will do like a bloody run, while you solo up to the throne as quick as possible. But this is also good for rushing thru lower levels too.

Think of her as the driver in a robbery, they almost never have guns. There job is to get you there and get you out. Once you get to the leveling zone, other people can inflict the damage.

[Rekk_Dalton]

fdl thats me all right, just hop on the getaway car and i'll drive us to the top of the ladder :) I spent weeks just teleporting and staticing (I LOVE to tell people i did my half the damage now you do yours :) get the funniest replies) and i'll be ready to do it again. 100% legit but i'm faster than most mhers cause i know all the patterns for the thrones anyway and i know how to port instead of just clicking toward a spot on the map.

[Slash]

Im not speaking about everyone and iof this was already said my bad(no atention span to readf everything)


You people say you hate rushin, yet alot of you are thinking of ways of actually question hell

TAKE THIS OPPERTUNITY, you wont get many, to make a char you would LIKE to quest with, and are interested it. There will be plenty of time for building MFers, support chars and the like.

This is a new season, so dont take it like the rest of the season. Personnally im going to be doing a windy druid. I have made it through hell with a char like that but never untwinked/without semi-rush and they have always been fun 4 me.

Please take advantage of this new season and make a char youll love question with, not one youll love finding items with, there will be plenty of time for that.

[BongJohnSilver]

Summoning Necro... Nothin' like dimmin... watching skellies pwn and spamming maxed CE... :yep:

[maus.]

I will probably go either Skellimancer, Holy Freeze/Shock pally, or maybe trapsin (haven't tried trapsin since 1.09). Then eventually a Meteorb or CL/FO sorc... Barbs, Druids and Zons just aren't that appealing to me at the moment, but eventually I intend on having one of each.

- Maus.

[NightShade]

I wouldnt mind making a bladefury asn with venom/strength claws for my 1st char. They seem like they can kill right off the bat with some very serious psn

[acb123]

il definatly make a blizz sorc so i can get my first pbot up asap. Once I hit 65 il start it. Should get to the top of the ladder within the first week.

Anyway just kidding there. Im making a necro so I can hell pit pretty easily.

[kurg]

just curious, would an enchantress be able to enchant a necro's skelleton army? i'm pretty sure it can but never heard anyone talk about it.

They 100 percent absolutely can.

I do this for my lvl 81 summoning necro when I take him out for a spin (makes doing ancients a breeze really).

The problem eventually becomes that 3/4 of monsters in the later acts of hell are fire immune, so the benefit of enchant is minimal. In normal/nightmare/early hell it does incredibly well. Even in the later acts of hell there still is a benefit because enchant adds to AR, so its like having a blessed aim merc (in addition to the might merc I use). But the fire damage is worthless against fire immunes of course.

Some necros even use the demon-limb unique club thingy to enchant their own army, but it costs 100K gold to recharge, and only adds 100 fire damage (lvl 23 enchant w/o mastery) plus the AR I mentioned. I think the AR means more than the fire damage for that particular situation.

[NightShade]

Just some info : The reset is coming on July 5th, at 11:00 eastern.


In preperation I'm killing everything off. I'm so damn bored I actually spent my night "aquiring" a copy of FF8 to play to tide me over.

[Sip]

I am definately making either an all fire sorc like the one i have now...or a meteorb sorc.

I need to harvest Mephisto early on to gain the riches needed to partake in low-mid or even high level dueling. With luck...I will find a stormshield or shako and trade it for a higher rune before the price of them skyrocket due to bots.

[mama_hc]

just curious, would an enchantress be able to enchant a necro's skelleton army? i'm pretty sure it can but never heard anyone talk about it.

yes, but u will have a good time try to find out which is already enchanted and which is not. :)

mama_hc :flip:

[Edeas_Knight]

Just some info : The reset is coming on July 5th, at 11:00 eastern.


In preperation I'm killing everything off. I'm so damn bored I actually spent my night "aquiring" a copy of FF8 to play to tide me over.


are you sure? how do you know this?