Rate what hurts your gaming experience most

[ConnerMacleod]

Simple private poll. Nobody will know what you select. Let's clear it up here what we MOST hate about the game.

What aspect of the game, in your opinion, hurts YOUR gaming experience most?

[Matt]

Chickenhack/maphack, I think its the same, they come together dont they?

[TheCerberus]

I think the first two choices bug me, but more or less the 2nd one. I hate dueling people with MH.

[Palm]

How bout blizz's apathy towards cracking down on cheating?

[baalos]

I hate the spambots. Chicken users are only fooling themselves so they can be l337 with their red names, i dont care about them, even when Im dueling. But I do hate having my screen cluttered, even though most of my game play is in private games with friends.

[Phantom_Man]

Chicken is my biggest problem. Hostile and don't even make it down and the waypoint and they're gone. It's a real pain.

I know how to drop the spambots, so they're fine with me, I guess. They also help my exp when I'm baaling in Perm games.

Phantom- :drink:

[xeyloderixed]

hmm, it aint one of the choices, but what i hate most is constant nagging of my f list when im doing something. i like to do mf runs by the hundreds, and i dont want to be interrupted at run 40 some just because a friend needs enchanting.

but given those above, i'd have to say spambot. dupers dont annoy me because i rarely trade, mh/chicken i dont care since im not the one using em (and most of my f list dont quest anyway). spambot though, that damned sleepy! i hate him :grrr:

[probowl278]

Just click on the spam bot 100 or so times very fast and it will drop, every one of the options is bad, but I think tppk is the worse, because the pk is in no harm.

[MoUsE_WiZ]

Botting.
MFing would be enjoyable, except that ____ I just found that took me 238759 runs to get goes for perf gems, or a rune that takes a hellforge rush to get at best.

[STINGER]

The one that hurst the game the most is the TPPK as it has pushed people who didnt have MH to get it to use chicken, and with the growing numbers of users it just makes it look liek it is an accepted item in the game now.

I would of much rather of selected many of those items as many of them truly hurt gaming and my gaming.

Botting makes my earned items not worth as much in trades, and has a simoilar impact as Duping, see below....

Duping does the same as well as help mak it so many more characters are a lot stronger than they should be, more efficent MFers.......teleporting Barbs, Pallys...etc in mass numbers simply changes the entire game. Bo for everyone simpyl changes the game. to simplify, by this time there should of been a very short list of those tht had most of the high runes, and of those only a few would of found enuff to make more than one of those items, but a whole hoard of people have them.

Map Hack even without chicken greatly reduces the chance of death by telling you things before you are suppose to know, it also makes questing and MFing simpler and faster and safer which also to a lesser extent poses a similar impact as botting does......but a much lessor impact as people actually are doing it so less runs per day.

Blizzs reluctance to fix bugs sure sucks, but it doesnt always ruin the game. Depending on how you read this you might select this one, and actually Blizzs reluctance to maintain this game allows duping to last longer than it should, gives the loopholes for it, allows botting, doesnt stop MH or chicken.......It isnt that they do nothing, but it seems very similar to pulling that one guy out of the pack that is doing 71 when everyone else is doing 65 in a 55........came from a post earlier. Basically they punish so few but really stop nothing.

Spambots are annoying but not that big a deal, but should be the easiest things for Blizz to stop by just patrolling the channels even for 10 mins a day. Hell a measly 10 mins a day could allow them to ban 10-20 accts a day. i sent pics to blizz of every bot that msg me for two weeks, still saw the same bots later so i guess they dont feel its a big problem.

PKs piss me off in general, but its legit so even if i dont agree and may wish to cuss a few out here and there I sure as hell wont be sending off complaints to blizz.......besides no legit PK has ever gotten me and I intend that to remain the same.


As for game difficulty, well i like it. It is a bit of a pain when you want to quest your sorc thru Hell and cant find a Barb or Druid to run wiht as now most things wihtout BO in Hell are really close to death, but I still like it. The game was too simple before, it may be slightly too hard now for some and it is near impossible for some, but i think if it didnt get tuff like this many people including myslef probably wouldnt be here. The main problem I have with Hell now, is that it is still rushable.........that is where Blizz has done some damage, they didnt fix what they said they would here. At least cows kill people, not too many things other than teleporters or melee guys not checking mods or forgetting abotu IM die anymore in Baal runs.


This laddr in Xpac is full of white letters, way more than it should be and this list of things made it possible......rushing, botting, duping, chicken, mh...etc. Remove it all and this game would be better.

The list of public games is almost gone compared to a while back due to TPPK.......Frankly that hurts the gaming for me the most. It use to be easy to get in on a run, or questing in public with the only fear of a LEGIT death, PK or not, no almost every character class has a potential TPPK method weak or not wether Norm, NM, or Hell......this IMO is the worsst of the list.

[ConnerMacleod]

Damn, I knew I should have added an "OTHER" or "None of the Above" option. Crap, thanks Xey, you just nailed my least liked feature of the game! Totally forgot that one.

Option 1 is similar to Blizzard's apathy about cheating. Game bugs go along with it. From what I understand tho, their code is SOOO leaky that client side any smart programmer can figure it out. But that goes for most games, I just found out my best friend's little brother was botting in SWG and getting rich on Ebay. LOL, oh the humanity.

EDIT: Dammit, Stinger posted a nice post right as I was typing. I TOTALLY appreciate your comment about the Spambots, as I have a collection of screenies saved up over the past week and I was thinking of sending them en mass to Blizz. They have to ban the keys, not the accounts. Obviously, this does absolutely nothing. By the way, I did vote Spambots because they fill the screen in Norm games like nobody's business. Damn you Sleepy!

[x2xatreyux2x]

For me, Blizz & the Bugs or TPPK. I've been TPPKed way too many times. I don't mind the chicken hack because I like to follow people who ahve it and just hostile them so they get booted.

[NobodyII]

TPPK and Blizz's apathy on fixing this problem.


UUmm Whats C3PO?

[terrymanning]

I voted for TPPK because it is what directly, that's the key word kids, directly, impacts me the most.

TM

[tomatoman]

well since i dont mf or trade because im a bit lazy i didnt pick botting
because i have skill to avoid legit pk i didnt pick legit pks
since triggering doesnt bother me because i have only had a level 15 triggered, i didnt pick tppk
because of my n key i dont mind spambots
because i OWN hell and my chars are invincible and nothing can come close to hurting them i didnt pick that
and since i havent started to duel in 1.10 because i just started playing again i didnt pick chicken
so i picked blizzards apathy toward fixing bugs, that would fix all of the above.

[jsteel]

Isn't TPPK a crack in the game code that is being exploited?

Doesn't fixing the bugs, fix TPPK?

ps. I voted for apathy...

[Khianna]

I guess if Blizz hadn't said they were going to ban accounts for maphack, duping, then it wouldn't have been a big deal. But if you say you're going to do something, then why not do it. I don't need happy joy joy rays of sunshine if there isn't substance to them.

I still think TPPK is the worst of the bunch, because it breeds rampant distrust everytime you enter a game, or makes you one of the shunned people for simply playing a certain character type. Although now it's pretty much all types of chars that can do it.

[WingBlade]

TPPK and Blizz's apathy on fixing this problem.


UUmm Whats C3PO?
Walt... how could u forget... STAR WARS - in essence a "know it all program - that gives advice" aka MH :)

[STINGER]

Conner, Please send the pics to Blizz.......ya, it may not do any good but at least ya tried and that means you didnt just ***** and do nothing. i dont se spammers in Classic Asia or I would still do it. Eventually they will do somehting

Damn, I knew I should have added an "OTHER" or "None of the Above" option. Crap, thanks Xey, you just nailed my least liked feature of the game! Totally forgot that one.

Option 1 is similar to Blizzard's apathy about cheating. Game bugs go along with it. From what I understand tho, their code is SOOO leaky that client side any smart programmer can figure it out. But that goes for most games, I just found out my best friend's little brother was botting in SWG and getting rich on Ebay. LOL, oh the humanity.

EDIT: Dammit, Stinger posted a nice post right as I was typing. I TOTALLY appreciate your comment about the Spambots, as I have a collection of screenies saved up over the past week and I was thinking of sending them en mass to Blizz. They have to ban the keys, not the accounts. Obviously, this does absolutely nothing. By the way, I did vote Spambots because they fill the screen in Norm games like nobody's business. Damn you Sleepy!

[Phantom_Man]

Conner, Please send the pics to Blizz.......ya, it may not do any good but at least ya tried and that means you didnt just ***** and do nothing. i dont se spammers in Classic Asia or I would still do it. Eventually they will do somehting

You're funny. But seriously, I think the only Blizz rep on Diablo retired or something.

Phantom- :drink:

[ConnerMacleod]

C3p0 is a Maphack ripoff

[VaN_haMMerSteIn]

Well, since I no longer play the game.. I voted for Blizzard's appathy towards fixing bugs, because even tho I wanna play, I am no longer making an effort to get a PC that can run D2...
Due to the fact that Botting/duping/MH etc... all make the game bad. I feel it is useless to even try and get a computer that can run D2.. If one just happens to fall down stairs, with an internet connection, and if my older bro gets the CDs back.. then I'll play. But until then... nothing. Nada.

[Unholy_VI]

I voted 1 just becuase

pretty much all of the options take away from having a totally legit closed realm with other totally legit players.

if number 1 was taken caer of then by default most if not all of the other options would be.

I started trading on East recently becuase I finally decided that I need to if I want to have reasonably competitive chars there for PvP. but to me it isnt the same as it would be if I was sure that none of the items I traded for were gotten with botting or duping. As it is I pretty much feel like trading with the rest of the community is like botting by proxy. The sad thing is I have to either not trade, or be forced into the illegit economy of the realms. I have no other real choice in the matter. the cheaters decided it for me and that's very sad IMO.

[Baranor]

None of the above, only my lack of time. I do still utterly despise the weaklings who need to cheat though.

[Winona]

You're funny. But seriously, I think the only Blizz rep on Diablo retired or something.

Phantom- :drink:

GFrazier? He moved on to WoW mainly, but i think still handle Diablo II aswell. At least he still posts news on the Bnet forums once ever 2 years.

Oh, and there is no way im voting on this one. I hate too many factors equaly much.

Why didnt u add an: Unholy option? Id vote for that. :uhhuh:

[Sigus]

Ive only been playing HC a week or so, but I have had so many attempts of people TPPK'ing me. None have got me yet (being a summoner alot of the TPPK builds have to be clever to get me), but I just think its a matter of time.

[HAMC8112]

Simple private poll. Nobody will know what you select. Let's clear it up here what we MOST hate about the game.

What aspect of the game, in your opinion, hurts YOUR gaming experience most?

Real life hurts mine the most! And i hate it! And i am pretty sure that Blizz is not going to do anything about it! Not for atleast 2 more years.

[fe-crazywolf]

Basically I agree with what everyone said, I would think just the general apathy towards negating hacks and cheats in the game and getting things fixed much quicker when it actually doesn't seem so hard for them to so, but then again battle.net is basically provided as a free service for us. But in general the most destructive elements of the game to the whole community would probably be dupers, botters, and tppkers, maphack and chicken definitely confer a very unfair advantage as well. It seems soon this once great game will just fall into the dismal pits of the unplayable multiplayer experience of the original game; but maybe that's being a little overly pessimistic. I recently tried playing single player again and it was really great fun, free from many of the annoyances of hack users and a flooded market of overpowered items...

[Unholy_VI]

Why didnt u add an: Unholy option? Id vote for that. :uhhuh:

Well, he knew that if he added that EVERYONE would put it. The poll is mostly about what the SECOND worst thing you hate since it goes without saying that I would be everyone's first!

[fe-crazywolf]

why would anyone hate unholy lol? hate the game not the playa, don't discrimnate, don't playa hate hehe.

[moby]

I voted for the fixing of bugs. That and the TPPK. It's driven me to play in private games, mostly by myself. How sad!!!!!!!!!!!

-moby

[TEB-Bird]

I don't need happy joy joy rays of sunshine if there isn't substance to them.


Amen to that brother!!

:! :!

[CreLuSioN]

tppk since thats the reason i cant do public nm baal runs...

btw believe me blizzard supports his games very good if u look to other (free) online games like ea they make a game patch it once then they never look to it anymore....

[Tal Rasja]

I think blizzard not fixing bugs and TPPK is about the same.
I voted TPPK though, because that's one bug that should be adressed asap.

[CreLuSioN]

since when is tppk a bug?

tppk is a hack cheat

in my eyes bugs are the things u can exploid without any 3rd party program

[viamede]

Correct it's bugs that use TPPK.

[stevethatsmyname]

Correct it's bugs that use TPPK.
squish them!!!!!!

[stevethatsmyname]

What in your opinion, hurts YOUR gaming experience most?

my mom.....

"stop wasting your life on that stupid game!"

actually she bought dance dance revolution for my little brother, and he spends more time on that game than i do on this one... why's she gotta be unfair for?

[Tal Rasja]

since when is tppk a bug?

tppk is a hack cheat

in my eyes bugs are the things u can exploid without any 3rd party program

Well, it's a bug that it works.

Take for example the assasins traps. When an assasin enters town, the traps are destroyed.
The same should happen to all hostile 'objects' like arrows, bone spirits, etc... The bug is that those things do not get destroyed like the assasins traps (and also the sorceresses hydras i suppose).

And indeed, the people that use tppk are also bugs :lol:

[STINGER]

You know, even with all the other bull, if TPPK was stopped it would just be refreshing. I can live with a bunch of weak *** NOOBS using all thier duped gear teleporting Baal, and the lazy pathetic botters making everything not worth much that I find, and even the times when some prick says "It is this way" acting like i should of already known this. You know, chicken sucks, it allow weak players to be ranked with the ones that do it right, but it still doesnt hurt the game that badly.

Frankly there is only one single item that dirrectly hurts playing this game, and i guess it made it easy for me to accept Birds request to leave Xpac running on East and go with him to Asia. TPPK simply ruins the atmosphere of this game, it makes it almost not worth playing unless you have a group of trustable people to run with.

It is so pathetic these nubs that TPPK do what they do as they just simply stop thier chances of PKing eventually, leaving only the ones who dont know abotu it to get or the really stupid ones.

There is no prize to TPPK, no skills, no accomplishment, no respect........they are simply the trash of the game. It is a shame how pathetic the clan that remains nameless is anymore.

[terrymanning]

You know, chicken sucks, it allow weak players to be ranked with the ones that do it right, but it still doesnt hurt the game that badly.

Stinger, while TPPK ruins everyone's gaming experience, nothing has done more to undermine the basic integrity of the game more than "chicken". Hardcore gaming is about the character being mortal. It's about not making mistakes and knowing if you do, the character will die. Chicken removes the basic premise of creating a "hardcore" character. It stops the character from dieing. With chicken you can play anyway you want and still live. It invalidates hardcore in general.

I know I don't need to explain any of this to you, I'm just saying for the sake of the argument.

TPPK, without a doubt, sucks and it affects me more than anything else. But as for what has had more negative effect on the game overall, I would say it has to be chicken.

TM

[Chiller_babe]

Real life hurts mine the most! And i hate it! And i am pretty sure that Blizz is not going to do anything about it! Not for atleast 2 more years.

You got it right there - if I didn't have to work to pay the bills/mortgage/car, I would have loads of extra time to play games YAY :clap:

Chill

[STINGER]

I guess i take the point of view that chicken is used more so for the protection from TPPK than for the protection against any death. i know Chicken was not very common at all until about 8 months or so before patch when the TPPKs were really thick when somoen released the progs to the public. Before that I didnt see it much at all. Chicken Hostile was implemented due to TPPK, it wasnt even around that i am aware of until this similar time frame.

Now back then I had MH, and I used it, and it didnt have chicken or chicken hostile but TPPK was very heavy wiht Zons and Hydras. So basically Ithis is why I consider TPPK the most damaging thing to "my gaming". Besides the weak people that use chicken to not die are only fooling themselves and even though it dirrectly efects me in some ways it isnt the impact that TPPK has on my ablility to get into a good game at any given time.

It is actually enjoyable to blow smoke at chicken uses from time to time anyway, but it is never fun to get TPPKed or watch someone get it.

[Phantom_Man]

People use chicken because of TPPK, and people use TPPK because of Chicken(some anyway.) The only way to stop the cycle is to get rid of both of them. It would not be hard to fix all of the skills that TPPK can be used on, there are not THAT many; probably 20 altogether.

And then because of Chicken, legit PKs can't get anything done. This whole cycle needs to stop, I want my ears!

And STINGER, it's very fun to watch a Chicken user get TPPK'ed. The moment is delicious.

Phantom- :drink:

[Baranor]

Chicken originally came outside MH as a seperate program that some players used. I remember duelling a 37 barbie in 1.09 that had chicken set at 70% of his life. Since he was fighting my hooker he never got close, but he tried like 40 times before I deceided to bail out. He then proceeded to spam me with "noob". Silly fella.

Trigger, drophack, goldhack, maphack, duping methods, Iths, quarks (ever seen The_Great_Quarks? Those were really sad), pindabot, leechers, I've seen em come, and unfortunately I never saw em leave. I ignore them these days, make fun of cheaters that I meet and try to play my own game.

Funny how everyone complains about chicken, but when I make a decent pk-er I never fail to get some ears fairly quick. Might just be me though.


edit: @ STlNGER
No, it was that lamer mousepad who implemented the chicken module in his new maphack. thanks to him all MH users suddenly had chickenhack.

[STINGER]

And STINGER, it's very fun to watch a Chicken user get TPPK'ed. The moment is delicious.

Phantom- :drink:

i dont find anyone getting TPPKed except the TPPK user himself funny! I dont beleive chicken would of been in MH if it werent for the pathetic TPPK users. You definetly wouldnt of gotten chicken hostile if it werent for the pathetic TPPKers.

I am not sure how i can emphasize how PATHETIC TPPKers are but please that that to whatever you feel is fully emphasised and turn it up and notch, and please take it personal........

[jsteel]

i dont find anyone getting TPPKed except the TPPK user himself funny! I dont beleive chicken would of been in MH if it werent for the pathetic TPPK users. You definetly wouldnt of gotten chicken hostile if it werent for the pathetic TPPKers.

I am not sure how i can emphasize how PATHETIC TPPKers are but please that that to whatever you feel is fully emphasised and turn it up and notch, and please take it personal........

Just as long as you are not being condescending... ;)

[mestre]

GF is not responsible for coding the game, so it doesn't matter if he is posting in other forum but the Diablo II one. All in all, who would love posting in a forum that's full of stupid kids that don't have anything to do but to try to flam other poeple? I bet they feel like it was an accomplishment when they make a joke out of someoen that's trying to post something seroius.

About voting, I choosed tppk cos it makes it too dangerous to play public games for legit users. Still I hate it tht Blizzard doesn't fix the bugs. Damn, they have made this patch so that it would be easier to fix things. As far as I know they din't even fix the fast hostile/wp bug.

[Phantom_Man]

i dont find anyone getting TPPKed except the TPPK user himself funny! I dont beleive chicken would of been in MH if it werent for the pathetic TPPK users. You definetly wouldnt of gotten chicken hostile if it werent for the pathetic TPPKers.

I am not sure how i can emphasize how PATHETIC TPPKers are but please that that to whatever you feel is fully emphasised and turn it up and notch, and please take it personal........

I bring up the argument that Chicken came before TPPK, but still, it was not put into maphack until after. And I do agree with you, I hate TPPK; and i'm in BM.

And a TPPKer getting TPPKed is quite funny, and semi-ironic, but I find that a TPPKer getting killed by a legit PKer(and/or player of any sort) to be more satisfying to watch.

Phantom- :drink:

[Dowie]

My my my.... all these lists and votes. They are very good is all i can say. TPPK/Chicken go hand in hand. One can not go on without using the other as an excuse. Dupers ruin the market. Botters lag battle.net. Legit pkers are running scarce. Am i seeing a decline the future of d2? :spy:

[Malachi]

Blizzard's apathy towards fixing cheats.

Its quite funny how they recently started to show a slight interest into Diablo II again, it seems they understand how their horrible realm performance may influence WoW sales. So who knows, maybe some of these issues get resolved.

[Zavior]

I know how to drop the spambots, so they're fine with me, I guess. They also help my exp when I'm baaling in Perm games.



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