Pindle MF

[skygoneblue]

Does anyone else think that Pindle just tends to suck for finding magic items? I have run him countless times, and I have never found even one unique, and not even a useful rare.

Why is running him so popular?

[Lord_Shinnok]

The reason that Pindle is popular (i wouldn't go as far as saying he's any more popular than meph but what do i know) is that he is so easy to get to and kill. I mean its only a hop, skip, and a jump away through the red portal to get to him and beating him is rather simple. Most gamers tend toward laziness (thus the sometimes excessive use of acronyms) and would rather do a fast Pindle run where they may find something rather then spend time with Meph or Baal. I personally have never liked Pindle cause he never drops anything good for me. The best i ever got was a IK Maul but what do i know?

[skygoneblue]

That's what I figured. AFAIK (;)), bosses tend to drop items a lot more than uniques.

[TheRealVertical]

I've never gotten anything useful off of Pindle either. Here, have a comparison of the last two days:

Monday night:

Pindle Runs: approximately 50
Items I kept: 0
Uniques that dropped: 1 (don't even remember what it was ... total crap)

Tuesday night:

Meph runs: approximately 25
Items I kept:

The Reaper's Toll
Arachnid Mesh
Nat's Helm
Arioc's Needle
Headstriker
Ko rune
Jalal's Mane (spelling?)

Uniques that dropped probably around 25

Pindle BLOWS.

[skygoneblue]

Ok, thank God I'm not alone! I thought my MF just sucked or something...

While you mentioned it, why keep Arioc's Needle? I found one the other day, and I don't know what to do with it (other than give it to a Merc).

[TheRealVertical]

You answered your own question. It's good for mercs. Mind you, I also have Tomb Reaver, Bonehew, and obviously I also found The Reaper's toll there, but I also have lots of chars that need merc weaps, and Arioc's is a pretty decent one.

[targaryen]

the reason why some people run pindle is because, although his drops are few and far between, he can drop things that meph can't. like nightwings for example. a single element sorc (ie; bliz) can quickly run pindle and get items that she wouldn't from meph (although she can run meph too, in the same game even! imagine that...). cause a single element sorcy isn't going to run baal solo very quickly due to immunes. maybe this is just me though. i don't mf much though so what i have to say shouldn't count for much :F

[GenXCub]

If you're counting uniques, don't forget to check for double durability rares... that counts.

[Da1nONLY]

:thumbsup: I found an eth ariocs needle and it's going to my act 2 merc...yay!

[chien]

Well, I am just thinking pindle sucks,too.. Get nothing for so many runs.. But, today, just feel bored of meph runs with my blizzard sorc so I decide to do some pindle runs. After some runs, I got a 3/5 fire facet (not great, but not bad) and my last two runs, one nightwing's pop up.. and next run .. GF!!! My first GF ever :)

[vietnam1977]

Well, I am just thinking pindle sucks,too.. Get nothing for so many runs.. But, today, just feel bored of meph runs with my blizzard sorc so I decide to do some pindle runs. After some runs, I got a 3/5 fire facet (not great, but not bad) and my last two runs, one nightwing's pop up.. and next run .. GF!!! My first GF ever :)
lol how much mf u have?
i spent about 1 1/2 hours running pindle and all i found was a mav helm...

[chien]

LoL, let me see.. I have Ali baba (88% now)+ partial Tal set with PT (112% from armor+65% from set bonus+15% from belt) + P Chancy (40%) + war Travler (45%) + rare ring (6%) + Gheed (38%) + some MF charms (9% lol) = 418 %

I should have use a rhyme shield or add some ists to ali baba..add PT Tal helm and use Gold Wrap... but I am too lazy to do it.. I think 400+ MF is more than enough.. I think it is just pure luck.. After super lucky find, I found nothing after :( .. oh well, a magefist.. LOL


Chien

[mr_mop]

Why are people talking about pindle runs like that is the only thing you can do in a game.
Pindle runs are so quick and easy ( along with Shenk and eldritch) that its worth doing it after/before your meph run.
I run Andy, Meph, Shenk, Eldritch, Pindle then I might think about moving to the next game. Dont concentrate on one only, and don't always keep the same order. I did these for a whole week, didn't get bored. Pindle dropped a Kuko and a 3 socket ogre axe that I wanted for a Crescent Moon for my merc.
Yes Pindle does suck,. But for a few seconds work, its worth it at the end of a Meph run. He did give me 2 items that I wanted that I didn't find anywhere else.

[LLD-Vampire]

#1 Reason: Many people have pindle bot and do a couple thousand runs a night finding 1 or 2 really good items then they say they found blah blah blah leaving out it took all night, a bot, and 2000 runs. Then the idiot thinks he can find things every run on pindle!
#2 Reason: People seemed to have ignored the fact that blizzard lowered the drop rate on him even though it said it right in the patch thingy.

The moral is pindle sucks without a bot, do meph instead.

[vietnam1977]

#1 Reason: Many people have pindle bot and do a couple thousand runs a night finding 1 or 2 really good items then they say they found blah blah blah leaving out it took all night, a bot, and 2000 runs. Then the idiot thinks he can find things every run on pindle!
#2 Reason: People seemed to have ignored the fact that blizzard lowered the drop rate on him even though it said it right in the patch thingy.

The moral is pindle sucks without a bot, do meph instead.
lol i avoid bots as much as possible ... i don't even use a mh
the only people who use bots r the people who r too damn lazy to actually mf.

[Lord_Shinnok]

Yeah i decided to test out ald Pindy and i did 56 runs on him. I found 3 set items all of which were terrible and not worht keeping. I found 2 uniques but weren't worth keeping. I did score a fal rune but that's all.

I will say one thing though, if you are looking for rares he usually drops some. I kept one that might help a merc on another char out but besides that Pindle is craptacular.

[Jek]

The moral is pindle sucks without a bot, do meph instead.

No he don't, he always seems to drop alot of rares for me. Anyway, as already said earlier, the three boss run - Shenk/Eldrich/Pindle are just there to do after you've killed Mephisto anyway. :)

PS: Pindle is great for leveling your merc.

[fallen angel of satan]

for this reason, pindle can drop better items than mephi. I dont bot but when I do mf I do thousands of pindle runs not just 50 here 50 there. In 5000 runs this is what I got (with 800mf), today

3xgf, wf, 5x verdungos, bk small sword, 3x ormus, 2x storm, eagle, 8x random skillers (p&b all the way to pala defensive skillers), 15 resists all jewel, ed//ias jewel, bk ring, 15x manald, 7x raveb frost, 8x dwraf star. This is just a small taster because I cant remeber everything I found. Yes pindle is tight but I preffer his drops to mephis thats y I run him

[Kumakichi]

Thats an impressive haul. But pindle bores me too much to do him. Sometimes I mix him in on runs but I couldn't do pindle over and over. Meph is ok and so is Baal. Lately I've taken to doing superunique runs just for the fun of it. So far nothing of much value has dropped.

You might want to add Threshsocket to your run. He's not hard to get to.

[skygoneblue]

How in the hell can you do 5000 runs in one day?

According to my calculations, you would have to do an average of 3.5 runs per minute for 24 hours straight.

Let's not include eating, peeing, pooping, random scratching, identifying items, selling **** you didn't want, etc.

Somehow, I think he is exaggerating! :lol:

[Lord_Shinnok]

Peeing and pooping problems can be solved by having a small plastic bag near by. As for eating you can without it for days, just be sure to have a glass of water near by. :scratch:

*note* the above was sarcasm. concult your doctor for how regualr you should be.

Getting back on topic, I did about 56 Pindle runs yesterday in about 45 min and i was bored to death. Yes, Pinlde can drop good stuff but the important word is CAN drop good stuff. I believe Meph is more reliable in dropping stuff and while it may not be as good as what Pindle CAN drop its still pretty good.

[Asyndis]

Hrm, Pindle is indeed boring.

Best I've found is a perfect Leviathan. But, I run Pindle non-stop to level up my mercs since I haven't found a better pay-off target for merc-levelling.

[melianor]

To reap something from Pindle requires alot of patience and alot of runs. we are talking in a few hundred to 1000 runs. The thing with Pindle is he can drop anything in game and that makes him interesting.
So you need alot of patience. But the main reason why Pindle is used at all is for those lousy lazy players who will let a program do the runs for them and the can do whatever else they like then. Pindle is easy to reach and defeat and scripting commands for said programs will so also be easy.

There are some players who still harvest Pindle without any other help, among them me. I used Pindleruns to lvl my char from lvl88-90. Sometimes nice items would drop, every few hundred runs, but what i was after was the XP. Pindle and minions give xp that can be had very fast and easy, with no teleporting through 2 lvls etc. The gain was small and it was pretty repetitive, but it worked fast enough for me.

For the usual uniques and sets you want Mephisto or Andariel are good enough. If you are looking for Kira's Guardian, Griffons Eye, Tal's armor or IK armor its either Pindle or those MF areas like Mausoleum, The Pit, Ancient Tunnels or Chaos Sanct, fo also the bosses and their minions there have the possibility to drop anythign that Pindle can too.

[fallen angel of satan]

hehe, sry yes i was exagerating 2 make a point. Pindle takes alot of runs but can drop good. Although I dont think he can drop everything. For instance can he drop aracnids sash? Ime not expert on this tho, so if sum1 else wat pindle can or cant drop i wouldnt mid knowing thnx.

I pit run with my new poisenmancer, he owns it fast and only has 50mf but I have found better stuff from there than my m8s with 800 got from pindle and mephi. This just proved to me once and for all mfin is 99.99999999999999999% luck with a tiny portion being mf. Also the xp from the pit aint bad at all hehe

[waytofailself]

i've ran him a lot and the only TC of stuff i haven't gotten from him is cow king's leathers.

i wonder why...moo

[melianor]

i've ran him a lot and the only TC of stuff i haven't gotten from him is cow king's leathers.

i wonder why...moo

You are wondering why? Well, it can only be found in the cow-lvl! but maybe that was sarcasm on your part ;)

[Volcom_feverD2]

umm, srry guys. im kinda noobish, so can someone plz tell me what a pindle is and where i find him? thx...

[melianor]

umm, srry guys. im kinda noobish, so can someone plz tell me what a pindle is and where i find him? thx...

Pindleskin, Super unique boss monsters, found in Act 5 at the entrance to Nithalaks Temple. You have to kill him to get to Nithalak and his lvl is so high that he can almost drop any item in game. Additionally this monsters and his minions is vey fast to reach through a orange portal which anya will open for you after she's been freed.

[Da1nONLY]

I wouldn't make game just for pindle...start from act 1 then move up til pindle and baal if u can ur bound to find at least 1 thingy worth the time :thumbsup:

[melianor]

+ also gaining xp

[Volcom_feverD2]

Pindleskin, Super unique boss monsters, found in Act 5 at the entrance to Nithalaks Temple. You have to kill him to get to Nithalak and his lvl is so high that he can almost drop any item in game. Additionally this monsters and his minions is vey fast to reach through a orange portal which anya will open for you after she's been freed.

Hey, thx man. im going to go try do some pindle runs now... :thumbsup:

[kingdomwinds]

is pindle or his minions immune to fire?

[waytofailself]

is pindle or his minions immune to fire?

it depends on the mods that come up...my blizzard sorc HATES it when pindle is cold immune...my merc hates it when he's extra strong with blessed aim or fanatacism

[mstrnicegui]

Since 1.10, I had periods of time where all I did was run pindle or run meph or run andy. My meteorb sorc had a good amount of mf on her, roughly 400 and 530 on switch.

My experience has lead me to believe that while meph drops lots of crap of all sorts (crappy and quality magical, rares, set items and uniques) all the time, pindle drops tons of rares and set items (I must've averaged 1 green military pick every 4 runs).

I have to agree with someone on the previous page, mf is only a small factor in what drops, the biggest factor is luck. Case in point, I have done well over 100,000 runs in hell diff over all the popular spots. Yet out of all those runs, I have only found 3 runes above ko ever (ist from pindle, fal from meph, fal from countess). Also, in my running of nm andy, I found 2 sojs in my first 100 runs. Since, in about 1000 runs, I haven't found another.

[Miladys-Knight]

Pindle drops a lot of rares for me too. My mf is just a touch under 500. I have gotten Eagle horn and the Set Shadow plate from him but I have found better stuff faster in the pit. My first pit run ever was with about 300 mf and I found Nat's claw. I like variety though and tend to move my MF location around at my whim. Since we are adding monsters to the MF list don't forget Boneash. He's the super unique skeleton in the inner cloister. He is easy and fast to get to has no associated minions. He has always dropped well for me. Lots of rares. Just pop in, pop him, grab and go.

[waytofailself]

bah, what annoys me the most with running pindle? i can do it in about under 15 seconds each time (if i'm on my game and not distracted, and there's no immines!)

b.net doesn't seem to like that, and i tend to get an IP ban every now and then. no biggie, i got used to that back when i muled too fast. now i wake up and sure enough, i'm still either banned, or the realm is down.

stuipd pindle :surprise: when i get back online I'M GONNA KILL HIM

[kingdomwinds]

wut do ppl kill in the pit? Is there a special unique monster?

[mstrnicegui]

It's a level 85 area meaning all regular monsters in the pit are lvl 85 and can drop most items in the game, including all runes. The champions are lvl 87 (champions are area lvl +2) and boss packs are lvl 88 (uniques and their minions are area lvl +3). That means that every item in the game can be dropped in the pits.

The only things special about superuniques like pindle are that they are always in the same spot and they have special drop tables of what items they can drop. It doesn't necessarily mean they drop better, they just drop differently.

[raiderjb]

OK
Pindle is great ----- qualify statement

If your always makin new chars and u like A2 Nm holy freezw mercs just pop in to say hello to that Mr Pindle guy. Once dead get your merc to stand in doorway and kill all his minions. XP for merc awesome. Drops for you -----

Well I use Pindle to level mercs, maybe 1000 runs over months. Drops that come to mind, Wind force 8% when they were hard to get, IK armour x 2 Tal Armour, 3 rainbows and zillions of good rares and socketable items.

In short hes great if your doin somethin else at the same time.

Oh and by the way eldritch and shenk the same game. Last week I nearly fell off my comp stool when Eldritch dropped a vex =) apart from this best rune I ever had was 3 x ist from the Hell forge in about 20 chars.

Conclusion Pindle has his uses.

[Lord_Shinnok]

I'm not saying that Pindle doesn't have his uses. If your looking for rares he's probably the best for it but to just to Pindle over and over is kind'a dumb. You might as well go for Shenk and Eldritch. I usually do the pit, then meph, eld, shenk and baal (as long as there are not a ton of black souls then its not worth it).

But whatever floats your boat :thumbsup:

[The Menace]

Strangely, I seem to have better luck with pindle then you guys. I don't have huge, astronomical MF, but i have managed to get decent gear off of old pindleskin.

I managed to wrangle Griz's Helm, IK armor (awesome!), Shako, and some odd Nats pieces (minus claw).

Which, i think is not bad, considering that i never had great luck with ol' Mephy.

In case you're wondering, i wear Full Tal's on my lightning sorc, with two topaz's in it (armor and helm). I have 30-ish chancies, and 38 gheeds.

I think thats all, but hey, i like pindle =]

[skygoneblue]

What do you typcially use to run the Pit? I took my Orb sorc in there and had assloads of trouble due to the frequency of Cold Immunes. Are fire sorcs the best for Pit?

[mstrnicegui]

As a sorc, you'll have to go with a dual-element build to run the pit without running into a lot of trouble with immunes unless your merc rocks (reaper's toll/doom, upgraded duriel's/CoH, Andy's visage/delerium). Otherwise, there's a meteorb and cl/fo build stickied at the top of the forums. If you were to go for a single element, lightning has the least immunes even though there's still quite a few.

Other chars that I have personally used to run the pit with good speed:
1) mf hammerdin, runs the pits faster than my meteorb sorc with no immune problems but needs enigma to do it and has just as much mf
2) conc barb with no mf to find socketed items, he one-hit kills pretty much everything including bosses which sometimes take 2 hits and his merc does the same
3) pure lightning zon, she gets slowed down by light immunes but otherwise is the fastest killer I have (outside of my hammerdin), the problem atm is her low mf. I mostly use her for cows for charm/rune drops and the spectacle of it all.

I prefer a variety in which characters I use to run areas as well as which areas I run, so I don't get bored. Unfortunately only my hammerdin and conc barb are flexible enough characters to run every area of the game. I'd love to use my meteorb sorc like that, but I can't switch skills well enough to deal with immunes when there's both fire and cold in the later acts of hell.

[Sigmarsson]

For some reason, I've had better luck with the skelies outside Pindle's area than with Pindle himself. Pindle has dropped me a GF, which was nice, but the guys outside have given me Skullder's, Shako, Homu, Dwarf Star, and a host of other stuff that people want to trade for.

I just took an old, retired, naked fire sorceress to pindle in norm while i was setting up a muling game. Pindle dropped nothing. One of the dudes outside dropped a 38 Chance Guards.

In the end it's probably just dumb luck, but it would be interesting to know how their drop information compares to that of Pindle...

[Archetype]

I find pindle up and down. He can drop good but then he can drop jack crap as plenty of you have said. Unlike some though, I run pindle with my pure lightning javazon. Shes fast, shes strong and she can handle any situation. I seem to find pindle rarely lightning immune (light sorc could possibly do him quick too) and even when he is LI, Jab does wonders, and so does Demon Archs or Gimmers :lol:

As for the pit, I usually take my Bonemancer in there. He kills everything quickly and can get up to about 300mf without sacrificing too much killing speed and damage. Decrip + spear works wonders - oh and its also a great place for leveling mercs, just like Pindle. The only problem is that I find jack all in the Pit, other than 1 eth zerker (which I was extremely happy about). No uniques have dropped yet for me :(

I guess it just takes time yknow :P

[Sartok]

I think Pindle drops well, but I for one can speak on the "luck" factor. For the last little while I've been finding at least 3-4 Gheeds whenever I mf, maybe its the char, maybe not who knows. But all I can say is Pindle drops well be it tals armor, arachs, or whatever else, jewels, charms, runes and so on. I honestly think it is really all luck of the draw.

P.S. I can feel my dry streak coming as we speak...

- Sartok :thumbsup: