Some help with this build, mana issues?

[druuna008]

Hey all, Im building a necromancer that will specialize in summoning skellies but with bone spear and curse backup. Im going to use these items.

Helm-Kiras Circlet
Armor-Vipermagi
Weapon-Blackhand Key
Shield-Homonc
Ammy-Anything +2 I can find
Rings-Hmmm... cant really afford 2 soj's so I will use 100 mana rings, someday Soj's hopefully
Belt-arachnid
gloves-frosts
boots-marrowalks
Charms-1 anni... few lit/poison res charms to max my res out... if i can afford any skillers/life ones ill get them

skill template
1 into every curse(maybe.. or might just get some useful ones I dunno yet)
20 skel mastery
20 raise skel
1 into clay golem, golem mastery, summon res
1 into bone armor
20 bone wall
20 bone spear
pre-req's..

Ok anyways- skels should be about 300 dmg, 1800'ish bone spear w/75+ cast... The thing Im wondering mainly is if Im going to have mana issues. Should I add into energy at all? Im going to max my block. I also still have all sockets free-should i saphhire anything? Also-does my damages look good enough?

[prickle]

Hey all, Im building a necromancer that will specialize in summoning skellies but with bone spear and curse backup. Im going to use these items.

Helm-Kiras Circlet
Armor-Vipermagi
Weapon-Blackhand Key
Shield-Homonc
Ammy-Anything +2 I can find
Rings-Hmmm... cant really afford 2 soj's so I will use 100 mana rings, someday Soj's hopefully
Belt-arachnid
gloves-frosts
boots-marrowalks
Charms-1 anni... few lit/poison res charms to max my res out... if i can afford any skillers/life ones ill get them

skill template
1 into every curse(maybe.. or might just get some useful ones I dunno yet)
20 skel mastery
20 raise skel
1 into clay golem, golem mastery, summon res
1 into bone armor
20 bone wall
20 bone spear
pre-req's..

Ok anyways- skels should be about 300 dmg, 1800'ish bone spear w/75+ cast... The thing Im wondering mainly is if Im going to have mana issues. Should I add into energy at all? Im going to max my block. I also still have all sockets free-should i saphhire anything? Also-does my damages look good enough?

Here is your answer put about 60 points into mana because thats all your gonna need but what ur gonna need is pretty exspensive. Your gonna need at least 9x 15 life 70 mana bugged small charms(pwnage charms right there) but until u can affor dthat u just use small mana charms because necro doesnt need much mana his gear should give at least a 400-600 bonus. Also change that circlet to shako if u have mana problems. And i would prefer a boneshade for the 4-5 bonespear and 2 to nec skills(very good wand but that has no mana/life) Well thats all you need to know, And your welcome.
You also need to get 20 summon resist to power up ur skellies its a must. Try to fit that in someway.

[Mad Mantis]

Have you read this guide (http://forums.rpgforums.net/showthread.php?t=174269) or this guide (http://www.rpgforums.net/showthread.php?t=131979)?

They could clear up a few issues.

[druuna008]

Yes I read both guide, neither which helped me much. And yeah-probaly would be a good idea to switch that circ to shako... but its a huge chunk of res to make up somewhere....

[flapserdk]

Have a Wizard spike on switch, it can solve your mana problems.

[druuna008]

Meh then I lose a nice +2.. i dunno. also is my wand a good choice? seemed like a solid wand to use, but theres a lot of + skills on other ones...

[Slipin]

Your gonna need at least 9x 15 life 70 mana bugged small charms Please, don't tell me you suggested what I just think you did...

[mr_mop]

Yes I read both guide
Really? Seems to me like both guides suggest a lot about mana and the issues you might face and how to avoid them.

Go back and read them again carefully... :rant:

[druuna008]

Ok buddy you point out exactly in the guide where it talks a good amount about mana issues. All I see is 'use pots'

[Mad Mantis]

Energy - I would reccomend at least 50 pts into here since this build relies on Bone Spirit a lot and I use trangs gloves instead fo frostburns, but someone with a lot of mana charms could probably get by without any.

This should answer questions regarding mana.

[druuna008]

Oh boy that sure answers everything needed to know about mana issues.

[xeyloderixed]

the short answer is no, you dont need any pts in energy.

mana pots can be bought from vendors, you should put a column full of mana pots in your belt. in the long run (and since this is sc) you WILL find a shako, and that will add around 110 or so mana (at around lvl 85), with that and mana rings you should be able to get by.

you cant really do away with mana pots, unless you are a sork with max warmth and most stats in energy (the so-called eshield build). drink your pots and be happy.

for reference: my dead (i play hc exclusively) lvl 96 necro had 1.1k mana and still had to drink pots occasionally. my new lvl 92 necro nly has 590 mana, but i can sumon my whole horde and still have aobout half of my mana pool intact (of course, pnova drains that in no time, but thats another story). both these necros have base energy (only differences are frosties/2 sojs/59 mana gc on lvl 96 and trangs gloves/soj/wisp on other)

[Mad Mantis]

Oh boy that sure answers everything needed to know about mana issues.

Thinking is painful, I know.

[druuna008]

Son I work hard all day and come on the forums and d2 to relax, I dont need to deal with the likes of you. If you dont want to add to the conversation then bizzle off son.

[druuna008]

xey thanks for the tips-and im on useast hc ladder by the way, not sc lol. From the looks of it you are a good necro player. Ill tell you how Im planning on playing. Im going to always have clay golem out, my skelys up(should be 11 of em), and Im going to be very active in the battle firing bone spears all about and use curses. Im not looking to sit back and watch the skeletons. Thats why Im thinking mana might be a problem. Also, im not looking to do endless baal runs-i play pvm, not pvbaal. With 75 block+max res and looking to get at least a good 1k life, do you think my defenses will be good enough? Im not a bad player or anything.

[mr_mop]

I can't see what more xeyloderixed added to the guide. The guide says put X into energy and use pots to make up the difference. It also gives suggestions as to items that give mana.

xeyloderixed did the same.

You complain about the guide and then thank xeyloderixed for repeating it....something not quite right there...

[xeyloderixed]

some people are not as smart as others, and some need more elaboration on certain things to catch up.

in this case, it's just a different way of looking at things. yes, what ive said are in most guides, but druuna wanted a specific answer, so i gave him one.

once again, base mana is sufficient. especially in areas where there are a lot of monsters (flayer, certain rolls of wk2/3), a monster in a single pack will most likely drop a mana pot, and you can just pick it up and get rolling. theres no real way to get around it: just get used to it.

as for blocking and defense: i dont really bother with defense, as bone armor and max res is almost always enough to tank a bit, to let your skellies catch up to monsters (i play very aggressively and most of the time go to "lead"). max block, though, i feel is important; it has saved me numerous times and i'm pretty sure you will find it useful (especially in hc). i even went in a dangerous tp with fast fana minotaurs in wk3 to loot a friend; they didnt even scratch me (took 3 hits to clear my bone armor).

[Dragonmaster]

omg MM he is right wtf is wrong with you? How dare you return his sarcasm after answering his question? So what that he didn't clarify what was wrong with your response? Come on MM, this guy WORKS HARD. He only plays diablo to RELAX. And he is obviously older and superior to you, otherwise he wouldn't call you son. So much superior in fact, that I'm sure he really knows the answer to the question and is only testing us. Be more considerate in the future man -_-.

[Mad Mantis]

Be more considerate in the future man -_-.

I see the error of my ways. Please do not punish me oh great Dragonmaster. :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:


EDIT: Just to clarify druuna008, this post was not meant as an attack on you. It was some fun between Dragon and me.

[druuna008]

YAWN, *Sigh*.... Anyways.
Xey-I am a very smart person. Did you think that maybe I wanted to go into more depth about the build/issues because I wanted to get some conversation going?
To the flamers-Whatever guys, Im not going to get banned over a forum arguement.

[xeyloderixed]

i am smart sometimes, and i am stupid sometimes. nobody's perfect.

no shame in asking about something you dont understand.

[ScatteredFire]

Oh, the arrogance. Please, somebody save me.

I don't mean to offend you, Druuna, but if you're as intelligent as you say you are, why haven't you gathered all of the information you need from the guides? They have the answers that you want. Look for them, instead of wasting our time.