OT: PD3: Spam Twice, It's a long way to the OTF [Archive]

TheKbob

09-06-2004, 17:30

Well, after our run to 5000 posts in the last Poll Dancers Thread, it was some good times, it was some bad times, but mostly fun times. Now the call to OT is back again in the latest installment of the Poll Dancers Saga:

Avatars that Pwn Joo!

Anywho, we all know the rich history of the D2 OT thread. People made of druids and the druids fought back with their only weapons. Spam. And lots of it. Well, finally getting kicked out of all other forums, they were made to make their own OT threads, as this fine example is. From Natures Brownies, Flying Camels, and many, many more names that I wasn't around for :rolleyes: to now, the Poll Dancers Saga, Let us enjoy some fine, high quality Spam.

Link to last thread (http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/you.html)

Yes, garbad nuked that last thread. GG KK THX, Pwnt :hanky:

But to the regards of the last poll, the winning selection for the druids favorite pass time:

Don't Click this one!

Disgaea doesn't count because Garb haxxored the poll. Druids naturally love doing what they are told not too. Woot!

~Kbob

Dolph

09-06-2004, 17:38

And so it begins...

Bob_TheMadCow

09-06-2004, 17:39

I though he did! Boy are some people gonna be pissed about losing 300+ posts :lol:

Silly nub hit the "Delete" button instead of the "Lock" button again :bow:

Well, as I'm not in the poll, it's time for me to sit back and start taking bribe offers to vote for people...

memememe173

09-06-2004, 17:47

TheKbob

09-06-2004, 17:52

Bob, you change your tar too much, and so does memememeememmemmemeemememeemmeemmemememmememememe.

I lost 200~ish. Seems a bit low, though.

~Kbob

memememe173

09-06-2004, 18:00

Bob, you change your tar too much, and so does memememeememmemmemeemememeemmeemmemememmememememe.

I lost 200~ish. Seems a bit low, though.

~Kbob
ya, as I was going to :rant: I realized that was true...I'm sad I didn't hit 5k...cause then I could hit 5k three different times with the same account...

Dolph

09-06-2004, 18:01

300 here, doesnt matter though.

Oh, and vote for me, or something...

Bob_TheMadCow

09-06-2004, 18:23

Bob, you change your tar too much, and so does memememeememmemmemeemememeemmeemmemememmememememe. Normally I would agree with you, but Ash has had that tar all of two days or something...

AuraAllan

09-06-2004, 18:23

Go go Boogie Necro :clap:

~Aura

memememe173

09-06-2004, 18:28

The Weakerthans was the band no one bothered to help me with

TheKbob

09-06-2004, 18:56

Bob, if you woulda switched back to one of your older tars then maybe, oh well. :uhhuh:

Garbad changed his, what a newb.

~Kbob

Bob_TheMadCow

09-06-2004, 19:01

The cow on lookout one? The Yoshi-tar? Becca? Skeksi? Sonic? Me looking pretty? The 1.09 wind druid?

I've had lots. I'm just pissed someone who has had theirs less time than I've had my current one is on the list and I'm not :p

Well, I had my chance to make the poll. Now people bribe me damnit! :drink:

Beowulf

09-06-2004, 19:34

First off **** you to who ever closed the old OT thread

second, how come a necro keeps making the new one? :scratch: :surprise:

and now back to the off topic of the day.....

....the no tar is the best tar....

TheKbob

09-06-2004, 19:47

Beowulf

09-06-2004, 19:50

I have visited the OT thread in the necro forum on a few occasions it is a pretty good one not as good as the ones here but second best imo better then some of the other ones out there.

memememe173

09-06-2004, 20:14

Well, the necro keeps the beat around here and I looked for an OT fix, and our thread is naturally slower than that of the druids, so I just made the next one.

Sry Bob :hanky: Asheron has visited the Necro OT though, that is a plus in my books :rolleyes:

~Kbob
I must have had this 'tar for uh...4 days ;)

What's the point of getting the longest thread only for it to be delted...

DOC

09-06-2004, 20:32

Kbob, did you forget me too?

Bob_TheMadCow

09-06-2004, 20:38

Kbob, did you forget me too?
It would seem he has... :cheesy:

memememe173

09-06-2004, 20:47

don't forget only 10 dodads to a poll la

Dolph

09-06-2004, 20:56

Garbad or Kirsty should easily be changed to DOC.
Garbad changed tar and Kirsty doesnt post in these OTs(*cough*suck up*cough*)

Oh well, atleast I am there, although I wont get any votes.

warlock_666

09-06-2004, 21:42

Is that link meant to f**k up my computer???

It spammed "You are an idiot" over my screen and the only way I cold stop it was to push my reset button...... really not funny if it was meant to be a joke

Bob_TheMadCow

09-06-2004, 21:56

I thought that was the "safe" ytmnd version...? But I didn't click it, so I don't know :D

electricblue

09-06-2004, 21:58

Bob, you change your tar too much, and so does memememeememmemmemeemememeemmeemmemememmememememe.

I lost 200~ish. Seems a bit low, though.

~Kbob

i lost 2
hehe

mepersoner

09-06-2004, 22:20

ya, as I was going to :rant: I realized that was true...I'm sad I didn't hit 5k...cause then I could hit 5k three different times with the same account...
HAHAHHAHAHAHA YOU LOST LIKE A THOUSAND.

K I'm good.

mepersoner

09-06-2004, 22:23

On a side note, wtf. My nice little story is gone and I didn't get to see responses and now I can't check them.

Garbad is such an inconsiderate little spambot.

On another note, it wouldnt' surprise me if he deleted it to make me stay on this sn for awhile longer...

Garbad_the_Weak

09-06-2004, 22:29

On another note, it wouldnt' surprise me if he deleted it to make me stay on this sn for awhile longer...

Oh god please stay

P.S. Nerf the link, mods wont like it.

Beowulf

09-06-2004, 22:33

I know why my puppet deleted the old thread...so he can pass me in posts!!!! And I see he will make a good lawyer afterall....cheating once again on this poll!!! :hanky:

mepersoner

09-06-2004, 22:33

Wil, you should know by now that the world revolves around me and everyone is plotting against me.

memememe173

09-06-2004, 22:35

HAHAHHAHAHAHA YOU LOST LIKE A THOUSAND.

K I'm good.

omg...I used to be 300 above you (5,300- 5,000) now I'm 300 below you

Beowulf

09-06-2004, 22:36

Wil, you should know by now that the world revolves around me and everyone is plotting against me.

Umm megalomania with a little paranoid schizophrenia to boot

mepersoner

09-06-2004, 22:40

omg...I used to be 300 above you (5,300- 5,000) now I'm 300 below you
It's good to be king.

mepersoner

09-06-2004, 22:42

Umm megalomania with a little paranoid schizophrenia to boot
Remember, without me, there would be no you.

Beowulf

09-06-2004, 22:42

It's good to be king.

Umm yes king of what exactly? Is this the megalomania comming through again? :uhhuh:

TheKbob

09-06-2004, 22:49

I can't nerf the link O_O , been over the hour edit, be my guest though, or no one click it.

Sry Doc, geez only 10 slots guys. :hanky: all the hate.

I make sure I always put view who voted for what, so Garbad can haxxor the poll, but we know only he voted for himself.

I got 2 votes HAH!

~Kbob

Edit: :lol: No one has voted for Garbad, and he voted for Kirsty. Wow.

Beowulf

09-06-2004, 22:54

Remember, without me, there would be no you.

Reminds me of a little saying:

Kill one you are a murderer, kill thousands you are a conqueror, kill them all and you are a God

Well Garbad is the first part
You Mep are in the second part
I on the other hand, am the third part...be careful for what you wish for. :strong:

memememe173

09-06-2004, 22:56

Well, I leave friday, put I'm sure I'll be able to find a bit of Inet time during trip

Beowulf

09-06-2004, 23:08

Well, I leave friday, put I'm sure I'll be able to find a bit of Inet time during trip
bah the way you spam you will still be first one this list when you return....

Bob_TheMadCow

09-06-2004, 23:15

I say Garbad should be disqualified for haxxoring...

memememe173

09-06-2004, 23:24

bah the way you spam you will still be first one this list when you return....
damn right :thumbsup:

mepersoner

09-06-2004, 23:24

We usually just disregard whatever Garbad likes and put it there so he can hack it and then purposely ignore it.

Kill them all? Sorry can't kill the unkillable. That's like stopping the unstoppable or moving the unmovable. All which are categories I fall into.

memememe173

09-06-2004, 23:29

bah the way you spam you will still be first one this list when you return....
damn right

Bob_TheMadCow

09-06-2004, 23:38

damn right :thumbsup:
damn right
Now that really is just spamming :p

memememe173

10-06-2004, 00:08

Now that really is just spamming :p
damn right

Asheron

10-06-2004, 00:18

Like whoa he really did nuke it... KAKAKA

Dolph

10-06-2004, 00:25

No prob againts the poll, but that link is just stupid.
Oh well. Since I wouldnt do a better job(except the link) I shouldnt complain.

Soepgroente

10-06-2004, 00:36

My avatar > all. Garbad is really popular here :spy:

Bob_TheMadCow

10-06-2004, 00:55

Note that nobody has actually voted for Garbad, he just has 500 votes... Haxxor.

I've just been bodyguarding Stick Les again, hehe :creep:

Asheron

10-06-2004, 00:57

BTW. Mep,would you mind if grabald gave me your ravenlore? -_-'

memememe173

10-06-2004, 01:14

I think I'm going to start chaning 'tar every week...since the druid forum has conspired agaisnt my post count...phsyco avatar will be my claim to fame

~Kazama Fury~

10-06-2004, 01:15

kazama-fury.... man by now i thought you would know that theres no dash. YOU FAIL AGAIN!

memememe173

10-06-2004, 01:18

My Buddy - G-Unit...it has some odd effect to it...it's dumb, but I can't stop listening to it LA!

~Kazama Fury~

10-06-2004, 01:20

you also forgot victus's pimp druid avatar. FAIL TWICE!

edit: jin's assault? jin's fury!!!! FAIL THRICE!!!!

ok i am done.

its hella hot here.

TheKbob

10-06-2004, 01:20

I was tempted just to put Kazma, so feel lucky I hyphenated. Fool!

~Kbob

Listen, dewd, there is only 10 slots, sue me! Jesus, do I have to make Everybody makes mistakes partII: Kaz has a Hemeroid ?

~Kazama Fury~

10-06-2004, 01:21

I was tempted just to put Kazma, so feel lucky I hyphenated. Fool!

~Kbob
then you would have failed more miserably.

Asheron

10-06-2004, 01:22

Kazmama Furay!

~Kazama Fury~

10-06-2004, 01:27

Kazmama Furay!
ashmama
Hey mama, this that **** that make you move, mama
Get on the floor and move your booty moma
We the blast masters blastin' up the jamma

i dont even like that song. >.<

memememe173

10-06-2004, 01:33

ashmama
Hey mama, this that **** that make you move, mama
Get on the floor and move your booty moma
We the blast masters blastin' up the jamma

i dont even like that song. >.<
I like the song :music:

VictusMetuo

10-06-2004, 02:01

You guys are morons, it's Ashermom and Kazamama.

And I don't like that song, but guess what, it's playing right now -.- ****tard

~Kazama Fury~

10-06-2004, 02:03

You guys are morons, it's Ashermom and Kazamama.

And I don't like that song, but guess what, it's playing right now -.- ****tard
i get no love even when i bring up your tar. -_-

T_T!!1111

VictusMetuo

10-06-2004, 02:52

Love yourself o.O and ****tard wasn't to you either -.-

memememe173

10-06-2004, 02:55

Wow, warcraft 3 is much worse for mucking around on SP then War2...

Garbad_the_Weak

10-06-2004, 04:01

I would like to state for the record that my sig should count as my tar because my noob of the day sig gets tons of laughs.

Garbad

Voice

10-06-2004, 04:19

garb is gonna win this one ..... but you should note that barney is supposed to be holding beer cans . :clap:

opctjes

10-06-2004, 04:24

garb is gonna win this one ..... but you should note that barney is supposed to be holding beer cans . :clap:

i like pie

mepersoner

10-06-2004, 04:27

You should note that I told Garbad not to touch my stuff on Diablo. So yes, I would VERY MUCH mind if he took my ravenlore.

memememe173

10-06-2004, 04:30

Remember, modliness is next to godliness

But God is empty, just like me! :music:

Garbad_the_Weak

10-06-2004, 04:41

You should note that I told Garbad not to touch my stuff on Diablo. So yes, I would VERY MUCH mind if he took my ravenlore.

I didnt and wont. I was just toying with ash. He has been spamming for days to try and lowball someone into selling him one. He simply refuses to pay the common asking price and was getting frustrated.

I haven't even been on your accts in months, so you may wanan check and make sure they havent expired.

Garbad

Beowulf

10-06-2004, 04:48

I would like to state for the record that my sig should count as my tar because my noob of the day sig gets tons of laughs.

Garbad

Should the noob of the day not be you every day? Simple question by a simple man :lol:

memememe173

10-06-2004, 04:53

how bout boob of the day instead :lol:

Beowulf

10-06-2004, 04:54

how bout boob of the day instead :lol:

Yes yes I think I will become a bronze pal just to get a sig and have Garbad there everyday as boob of the day :clap:

Wyvern

10-06-2004, 05:00

so what is this thread going to? and i thought we did a run of 7 not a run of 3?

memememe173

10-06-2004, 05:36

so what is this thread going to? and i thought we did a run of 7 not a run of 3?
1k, and ya this is #3 out of 7

DemBonez

10-06-2004, 05:40

I voted for "TheGreatStickels: Disembodied Vivvy Head" because it reminds me of my friend YoYo (nickname of course) and I didn't want him to get uber emo when no one voted for it.

edit:

btw :wave:

Voice

10-06-2004, 05:50

whats a bronze member :scratch:

memememe173

10-06-2004, 05:51

whats a bronze member :scratch:
Clicky (http://forums.rpgforums.net/subscriptions.php)

Garbad_the_Weak

10-06-2004, 05:54

Simple question by a simple man :lol:

o_O

10 chars

memememe173

10-06-2004, 06:03

I'm getting sick of the no gold with raon mines, even if they blow up on your turn

Wyvern

10-06-2004, 06:24

is it supposed to burn when you urinate?

proudfoot

10-06-2004, 06:36

No.

Garbad I hate you. Where have 400+ of my old posts gone? I lost 100 from the last thread only, so...

proudfoot

10-06-2004, 06:38

And now I have to hit 5000 again. Darn you to the max.

Go rot in purgatory!!!

memememe173

10-06-2004, 06:41

No.

Garbad I hate you. Where have 400+ of my old posts gone? I lost 100 from the last thread only, so...
our record setting thread was deleted...which makes it rather moot IMO...and btw, quit complaining...I've lost 1k+ posts in the past 3 days

proudfoot

10-06-2004, 06:43

Yes, but you posted all those recently... My posts were from at least a month ago. Which makes them set in stone.

Beowulf

10-06-2004, 06:55

How did I have a feeling that Garbad would play with the words of my post!!!

memememe173

10-06-2004, 08:15

How did I have a feeling that Garbad would play with the words of my post!!!
because he can't come up with anything on his own

TheUnchosen

10-06-2004, 08:58

YAY!!!!!

A new thread!!!

WOOT!!

Tor

10-06-2004, 09:34

i dropped almsot 300 posts!!!

TheUnchosen

10-06-2004, 09:54

Serves you right for posting in that hellhole known as PD2...

Any sane person would know that Garbad is a dumbarse therefore not attempt a 5k post count...

I advocated 1k post counts for many reasons but one of them was that if Garbad accidentally deleted the thread, we wouldn't suffer as badly.

mepersoner

10-06-2004, 10:47

I didnt and wont. I was just toying with ash. He has been spamming for days to try and lowball someone into selling him one. He simply refuses to pay the common asking price and was getting frustrated.

I haven't even been on your accts in months, so you may wanan check and make sure they havent expired.

Garbad
I get on once a week around 2 AM for about an hour and usually renew stuff, mule a little, and do a little dueling. However, last time I was renewing I was booted offline on mepersoner for too much switching.

mepersoner

10-06-2004, 10:48

Bob_TheMadCow

10-06-2004, 11:16

is it supposed to burn when you urinate?No. But you're not ment to drink petrol either.

Asheron

10-06-2004, 11:40

I'm going to a BBQ party this afternoon,and we gotta bring cherries so a friend and I are gonna go get some at the neighbours tree... :evil:

Dolph

10-06-2004, 11:48

evillllllllllllll

Asheron

10-06-2004, 13:26

turns out we're gonna bring something else and keep the cherries for ourselves or something.. kakkakaak

Voice

10-06-2004, 14:07

I'm going to a BBQ party this afternoon,and we gotta bring cherries so a friend and I are gonna go get some at the neighbours tree... :evil:

How do cherries and bbq fit together? :scratch:

mmmm cherry on hot dogs.

~Kazama Fury~

10-06-2004, 14:17

How do cherries and bbq fit together? :scratch:

mmmm cherry on hot dogs.

korean wannabe frenchies always have weird meal ideas.

Voice

10-06-2004, 14:22

ewwww do you know what a wannabe is ?????

its someone who feels the need to chop off a limb to 'complete' themselves.

I like my limbs and wouldnt chopping off a limb uncomplete someones body ..... damn mind over matter crap. :scratch:

Asheron

10-06-2004, 14:34

well,the cherries would be eaten AFTER the BBQ you noobs.

here we call it "dessert" .. KAKA

TheUnchosen

10-06-2004, 14:38

I'm so stoned...

Dolph

10-06-2004, 14:46

I'm so stoned...

groovy mate

TheUnchosen

10-06-2004, 15:07

I am so seriously stoned......wait...lemme go smoke some more....

Dolph

10-06-2004, 15:08

Double seriously STONED!

Beowulf

10-06-2004, 15:12

I'm so stoned...

This is different from usual in what way exactly? Anyhow nice to see you back mate. :howdy:

TheUnchosen

10-06-2004, 15:13

Back....
Extra stoned now......

TheUnchosen

10-06-2004, 15:17

Hey Beowulf!
Sorry man, lost for words..too baked..

Beowulf

10-06-2004, 15:20

Been trying to keep your ideals alive still ranting Unchoseen for drood mod but no one seems to be listning anymore :scratch: maybe now that you are back things will get easier.

TheUnchosen

10-06-2004, 15:23

Beowulf...glad to see you still can't spell proper.

Beowulf

10-06-2004, 15:24

Beowulf...glad to see you still can't spell proper.
I am not allowed to spell proper and all I am the spelling bee champ after all.....

Bob_TheMadCow

10-06-2004, 16:03

I wonder what the chances are I get shot down for trying to trade in the SPF...

Stupid D2 giving me two fecking Zon skill charms for my fecking Druid... :rant:

Garbad_the_Weak

10-06-2004, 16:07

Let's just say deleting the OT thread was an "administrative" decision and not incompetence. There has been some concern these threads are pure spam and that by deleting the thread when you want them closed it will deter spamming.

Trust me, you guys will like this better than the other proposed changes.

And btw, you aren't even close to the record. Some of the mods said in the old forum there was a thread in ETF? I believe that hit 28,000 posts. It had been open forever, etc.

Garbad

Dolph

10-06-2004, 16:13

I wonder what the chances are I get shot down for trying to trade in the SPF...

Stupid D2 giving me two fecking Zon skill charms for my fecking Druid... :rant:
Depends on if you have used an editor in the past, and so on. But the people in the spf are cool.

Just checked out your tradepost. You use ATMA right?
If so I can send you a Jalals, a shapeshift GC and trang gloves for free.
I am hoping my berserker barb will work good in mp wsk runs. If so that will be my last d2 char. So give me your email and I can send you the itamz.

Bob_TheMadCow

10-06-2004, 16:23

sweet!

Yes I just downloaded ATMA and installed it since my post in the SPF. I have had a couple of offer, but so far yours is the best :lol:

I'll PM you my email address :D

mepersoner

10-06-2004, 16:29

Lack of sleep is ****ing ridiculous.

Wyvern

10-06-2004, 16:38

unchosen seeing your past few posts about how stoned you are reminded me of this penny arcade comic.

http://penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2004-04-21&res=l

TheKbob

10-06-2004, 16:38

:hanky: Well the Necro OT hasn't gotten crapped as we though DK would at 1K. I think he just doesn't wanna mess with it and let it run. We have wanted the OT thread to be named the graveyard for like, 3 OT threads now. Silly Mod.

Well if we really wanted to spam, we could just do hit and run tactics in the OTF, but then they would prob whine or something. I don't like the OTF. You can't even have an OT thread in the OTF. I mean its OT.. (which for the OTF, is OnTopic). God no sense of humor.

Dats why the Necro and Druid forums are teh 1337. Community isn't bad once in awhile. I only go to other char class forums when need be, and SP forum is the :evil:

/rant

I gotta work today. I think I'll bring some ice cream home, though.

Chaos Legion is a fun game

~Kbob

Garbad_the_Weak

10-06-2004, 16:58

I got a hypothetical situation for ya.

Suppose you could buy a business that would give you $100,000 a year without fail for eternity. It would never go out of business, change, grow, etc. Assume there are no taxes, inflation, etc, just the business.

Assuming you had the money, what is the most you would pay for the business?

This isn't a trick question or anything, and there is no wrong answer, I am just curious how much you think would be fair to pay for $100,000 a year back. After I get more answers I will tell you more.

Garbad

TheKbob

10-06-2004, 17:04

Probably at least a million in cash. That's 10 years of getting it back, though, and with interest, probably 100.

So for real life, yeah. That would prob be it :cheesy:

~Kbob

Beowulf

10-06-2004, 18:57

I could look up the exact formula for this....I haven't calculated this in a long time since I was in business school.

Garbad_the_Weak

10-06-2004, 19:14

Well, I didn't mean this as a time value of money problem, just a "value" question -- IE how much is 100k a year worth to you. Thats why I said no risk, no inflation, etc, etc etc.

Kbob gave a pretty good answer of what I wanted and a pretty reasonable one I think.

Garbad

Bob_TheMadCow

10-06-2004, 19:39

Something like that I wouldn't sell at all. Ever. I'd keep it as a family business. Although I guess if I wanted out of it (like retirement or something) and had no family to give it to then maybe 10 years or so worth of income in one go would be enough.

PS: Thanks again Dolph, those three items doubled my poison damage. Not sure if I'll use the Plague Bearer, as the Spine Ripper I'm using just now is faster and has ITD and PMH, both very useful stats. That and I just dumped nearly 200 stat points into Vit last night, so it'll be a few levels until I can use it :lol: I'll have to check my attack rating, not sure putting an Eth in it would be enough to keep me hitting reliably :(

Dolph

10-06-2004, 19:42

ok, cool
I have a 3/-5 poison facet that I can send you sometime.

memememe173

10-06-2004, 19:55

seeing as I'm dense right when I wake up...

the OT thread is going to get deleted every time we hit 1k?

Beowulf

10-06-2004, 20:04

If you are paying cash because you had the money then yes 1 million dollars would be a good starting point....I think the current owner might look for more but that is just me maybe....

mepersoner

11-06-2004, 00:01

Who says someone owns it and you're not just starting it?

I wouldn't pay anything. With the right degree you could get a job that pays more than that and you'd just have to pay the cost of getting through college and a university.

TheKbob

11-06-2004, 01:19

I got something right, wow.

Going out with my sis again tonight, fun fun. :D

~Kbob

DemBonez

11-06-2004, 01:31

Isn't incest illegal?

buenas noches

TheKbob

11-06-2004, 01:47

Wow, ... Not funny. No she invited me to tag along again with her and her friends to another comedy club. :grrr: Stupid guy with the tar of a game I loved to play...

~Kbob

Btw, I have tied Kaz back, but I noticed he voted for himself :lol: I voted for Phatbunny, I love that rabbit.

Tor

11-06-2004, 01:49

not to redneck necro hicks

TheKbob

11-06-2004, 01:51

*Throws trapper corpse at Tor*

*Uses CE*

So, while Tor heals after being shrapneled, anyone else want some?

~Kbob

Voice

11-06-2004, 01:55

I wouldn't pay anything. With the right degree you could get a job that pays more than that and you'd just have to pay the cost of getting through college and a university.

Yea but then you have to WORK for the money. This way you would just earn 100k a year no strings attached.

Assuming one takes the business at around 20 ... 10 years before you get return that would give you to the age of 30 before you started making profits. However if you invested that money well you could probably make way more than that .... so im thinking i wouldn't pay more than 500k ... reasoning is once you start investing high money % payoffs are larger.

Also note that 100k now wont be worth the same amount 50 years from now.

Wyvern

11-06-2004, 02:04

bah i was going to make a huge post about garbads question but i still cant get over that no one mentioned the penny arcade comic i posted up about unchosen......

Garbad_the_Weak

11-06-2004, 02:10

I could look up the exact formula for this....I haven't calculated this in a long time since I was in business school.

Yeah, what you are referring to is the time value of money. Problem with that is only you, me, kirsty (I believe she has a masters in economics?), TheDragoon, and maybe a few other people could handle the calculus involved. In any case, you have to assume a base compound rate which we would have to argue on before we could solve for value.

It would confuse the pups, so lets make it simple. :D

I wouldn't pay anything. With the right degree you could get a job that pays more than that and you'd just have to pay the cost of getting through college and a university.

This is a really dumb answer.

Not only does it miss the point (this isn't a career, its an investment -- you don't have to work at the business, you would just own it and get the profits) its also absurdly naive (less than 1% of college grads will ever earn $100k a year at any point in their life).

I'm actually kind of surprised Mep would give such a poorly thought out answer. I suspect mep's gonna be in for a rude awakening over the next few years if he was actually serious. :)

Anyhow, of the three answers so far, we have to toss Mepersoner's for ignorance. KBob said 1 Mil and Beo agreed, but said it would probably cost more.

The point of the question was just to see what people think a reasonable rate of return on a risk free investment is. For example, If Kbob bought that business for $1,000,000 he would get getting a 10% return risk free.

Pretty damn good deal for him, especially considering the market "risk free" rate is roughly 2% right now (10 yr us govt bond in case anyone is wondering what people consider a risk free investment), which would translate to the business being worth $5 mil. A little misleading though as the current interest rates are really low; A better measure might be the last 30 year average, which would be roughly 3.5% (after inflation), or the business is worth $2,850,000.

The question is interesting (at least to me) because it shows how poorly people estimate what a fair rate of return is. Almost everyone has wildly inacurate ideas of what a good investment will earn, etc. Its interesting to watch even educated professionals completely miss the mark on this.

Just so you guys know, the average person usually says somewhere between 1 and 2 mil.

Garbad

Garbad_the_Weak

11-06-2004, 02:14

Yea but then you have to WORK for the money. This way you would just earn 100k a year no strings attached.

Assuming one takes the business at around 20 ... 10 years before you get return that would give you to the age of 30 before you started making profits. However if you invested that money well you could probably make way more than that .... so im thinking i wouldn't pay more than 500k ... reasoning is once you start investing high money % payoffs are larger.

Also note that 100k now wont be worth the same amount 50 years from now.

Although your assumptions aren't bad, I said in the problem there was no inflation and it would pay this year and every year forever.

But year, you are right, venture capitalists make a killing if it pays off. 35% return is the usual, but its a risky business.

Garbad

Voice

11-06-2004, 02:17

And im purty sure i could do these 'complicated' calculations ... and wyvern i've seen that one before .... thats why i havent commented on it.

~Kazama Fury~

11-06-2004, 02:17

Tor

11-06-2004, 02:25

garbad use teh edit button

memememe173

11-06-2004, 02:25

I'm thinking 3 mil for that busness

Voice

11-06-2004, 02:27

see i could be really smart and nobody would know it ... my life is unknown muahahhahahahah

mepersoner

11-06-2004, 02:28

Not only does it miss the point (this isn't a career, its an investment -- you don't have to work at the business, you would just own it and get the profits) its also absurdly naive (less than 1% of college grads will ever earn $100k a year at any point in their life).
All I have to do is major in an engineering major or comp sci major and I have a job lined up to make 60K a year to start with a bachelor's degree(now it would require me makinga phone call, shucks) and jumps about 10K for every degree above that, plus the increase of 2% in wages every year for inflation and promotions/pay raises.. I think most of those people who don't make more than 100K with a college degree at any point in their life aren't looking very hard. The top pay goes to about 125K for this job (government job) and that was 2 years ago.

I'm probably going to major in psych btw, more interesting. I'll probably make like 30K a year until I get a better degree in that field. Then I'll probably go to school in other fields as well, because I'm pretty knowledge hungry.

As for "this is an investment you don't have to work". I really don't give a **** if I have to work? What's wrong with working? Your best argument would be that you would be able to work another job and make even more money. I doubt a lot of people would work while making that much money just because they're lazy, I probably wouldn't either. However, I LIKE to go to work and associate with my coworkers and do my job, and if I'm glad I have a reason (make a living) to do it. Work is a good source of a social life.

I'm always glad to hear you call other ideas ignorant though Wil, maybe you should consider getting a real degree and looking for a real job if you're concerned with the money aspect of things.

Tor

11-06-2004, 02:29

voice didnt i tell you to go lesbo with stickles?

Kbob...stop throwing my kills at me
kill you own nubbies

Voice

11-06-2004, 02:33

~Kazama Fury~

11-06-2004, 02:34

see i could be really smart and nobody would know it ... my life is unknown muahahhahahahah
a smart 13 year old girl?

or uve dropped that already.

memememe173

11-06-2004, 02:35

I stil support the inheritance method

Voice

11-06-2004, 02:37

a smart 13 year old girl?

or uve dropped that already.

you forgot sexy and hot !!!!! :love:

memememe173

11-06-2004, 02:39

incest and 13 year old girls...Jerry Lee Lewis?

Tor

11-06-2004, 02:39

taht contradicts itself ><""

mepersoner

11-06-2004, 02:39

meph ... to do it quicker you should know that if you live around a big city many cs grads work for a company for 1 year then switch companies every year and get a 10% wage increase .... i dont know how/if that works in engineering though. At least thats how they do it in the D.C. area.

mmmm lesbos .... where?

Yeah, the point was that it's a better investment. I didn't assume no worked would be involved in the business, because even though this is a "what if" situation, that's unreal.

Voice

11-06-2004, 02:42

well the main thing is if you like what you do ...... well then you would WANT to go to work .... hmmmmm a hooker !!!!!!

DemBonez

11-06-2004, 02:42

This is a really dumb answer.

It was just a really dumb question, as most arbitrary "what if" hypothetical situations are. Rule of thumb, it's a bad question when you have to ignore outside factors, expecially so many. Whats the age of our buyer, how much can he spend up to, how financially secure is he now, etc? If I were to die in 9 years, I don't see how anything above $800,000 would be worth it, even then it's a stretch. $800,000 could be alot of money, and probably wouldn't be worth going through the loss in order to get a gain, or it could be nothing at all making the job in heartbeat. I would love to pump a million dollars into saving bonds, but I don't have a million dollars to wait 10 years on. There's a reason why real life is, and the world isn't a formula.

Voice

11-06-2004, 02:47

and the world isn't a formula.

most people live thier lives like its a formula .....

Garbad_the_Weak

11-06-2004, 03:00

All I have to do is major in an engineering major or comp sci major and I have a job lined up to make 60K a year to start with a bachelor's degree(now it would require me makinga phone call, shucks) and jumps about 10K for every degree above that, plus the increase of 2% in wages every year for inflation and promotions/pay raises.. I think most of those people who don't make more than 100K with a college degree at any point in their life aren't looking very hard. The top pay goes to about 125K for this job (government job) and that was 2 years ago.

Realistically, about 80% of college grads are employed after one year in good economic conditions (some majors and schools do better, of course). In hard times, it is lower. Of those who are employed, probably 50% are employed in jobs that don't require a degree (secretary, phone solicitor, sales, TA, etc).

Interestingly, those majors that have the highest employablity (engineering, comp science, math, etc) and highest average starting salary are also the majors that are the least likely to get promoted to management, ownership, etc. Again, various reasons for this, but its a fact. Science and engineering are not the wisest path to $100k, although its a good respectable living.

Roughly 20% of people with a bachelors will get a masters. Work, debt, family, admissions, etc.

In case you don't know, a 2% raise a year won't cover inflation. In effect you will make less each year you work not counting promotions. Most people get at least a promotion or two in thier life, but very few will get more than that. The simple fact is it aways takes more people at the bottom than at the top. Some make it, most won't.

If it was so easy to make $100k, why aren't more people doing it? If you are going to have to work hard, why not get paid well? The evidence I have read shows higher paid people are in general much more satisfied with thier work so you can't well say people choose lower paying jobs because they enjoy them. Its true in some cases, but certianly not all.

As for "this is an investment you don't have to work". I really don't give a **** if I have to work? What's wrong with working?

Not the point, its an investment, not a job. It was a math problem, mep. You just missed the point, happens to the best of us. Don't get all mad.

Garbad

memememe173

11-06-2004, 03:04

working is wrong because you're not having fun while doing it

Garbad_the_Weak

11-06-2004, 03:08

Professional d2 player?
Professional wine taster?
Professional sightseeer?
Professional basketball player?
Professional devirginizer? <-- someone else typed this

:surprise:

All jobs (well most jobs :D ) have the suck parts and the fun parts. Just about every job you have to pay your dues, etc. But still, I have only had one job I just hated and I have worked some pretty diverse jobs, professionally and nonorofessional.

Garbad

memememe173

11-06-2004, 03:11

Garbad_the_Weak

11-06-2004, 03:11

Btw, help me decide :(

A group of the "important" people in town (including people the MBA placement commitee, etc) asked me to go play basketball in an hour but I am starting to feel sick. It would be good professionally to get some face time, but idk. :/

There is always next week I suppose.

Garbad

memememe173

11-06-2004, 03:12

Garbad_the_Weak

11-06-2004, 03:14

lot more fun in those jobs then...janitor

Actually, the worst job I ever heard of....

Some company in Salt Lake put out an add for a person to scrape up rotting vegtables and animal feces from a pen of some animal (i forget what kind). The shift was like from 6 pm to 8 am, no benefits, etc and it payed below minimum wage.

You gotta be pretty hard up to take that job. They said they got applications tho.

Garbad

DemBonez

11-06-2004, 03:18

If it was so easy to make $100k, why aren't more people doing it? If you are going to have to work hard, why not get paid well? The evidence I have read shows higher paid people are in general much more satisfied with thier work so you can't well say people choose lower paying jobs because they enjoy them. Its true in some cases, but certianly not all.

And whats the precentage of people in lower paying jobs being satisfied with them? Just about every teacher I have ever had loves teachingm, reason they do it, not for the money. My mom is a librarian, my neighbor tiles floors, my friend is a dentist, etc. They all took those jobs not becuase of the money, but because they like doing it. Not everyone is satisfied with a desk job, not everyone wants to be an investment banker (shocking I know). There is more to life than money, you obviously fail to see that. Does this evidence also show how happy the person behind the counter at the DMV would be writing databses for companies? Does your evidence show how unhappy Bill Gates would be if he was writer in a news paper? It's nice to make a conclusion based on one thing (again discounting all factors). Reason the people at the top are satisfied with their work is probably the reason they are up there. If I had a huge interest in being a doctor, I would make an earnest effort at becoming one, improving, and being the best possible. Same goes for almost any other job.

Actually, the worst job I ever heard of....

Some company in Salt Lake put out an add for a person to scrape up rotting vegtables and animal feces from a pen of some animal (i forget what kind). The shift was like from 6 pm to 8 am, no benefits, etc and it payed below minimum wage.

You gotta be pretty hard up to take that job. They said they got applications tho.

Garbad

Most zoo based jobs can be the worst. I know there are places where people get paid for messaging the G-spot of animals to make them feel more comfortable.

I'd have to say that a Japanese porntress has it pretty bad. The fact people die from it scares the **** out of me.

Garbad_the_Weak

11-06-2004, 03:25

Reason the people at the top are satisfied with their work is probably the reason they are up there.

Most zoo based jobs can be the worst. I know there are places where people get paid for messaging the G-spot of animals to make them feel more comfortable.

Thats a good point and I am aware of that, but from what I have read, even factoring in things like that there is still greater satisfaction in higher paying jobs on average. Can't prove it without looking it up tho, so who cares anyhow.

That zoo job would suck. My exgf's little brother really loved animals and got a job at the la zoo. He had to do some crappy things but nothing like that. He was only 16 tho, so maybe it would have been exposing a minor to sexual material or something :lol:

Garbad

mepersoner

11-06-2004, 03:29

working is wrong because you're not having fun while doing it
Says who?

Not the point, its an investment, not a job. It was a math problem, mep. You just missed the point, happens to the best of us. Don't get all mad.
I think the amount I get mad online is equivalent to zero. Just shows people's lack of ability to judge anything online, yet they try anyways. :rollseyes:

You missed the point. Investing in myself > investing in that business, and the 2% increase is better than the no increase you would have in buying that business. Hell, with the 500K that it would take to purchase it you could probably start a successful business of your own that would in the long run make more as well. Don't bother telling me 60% of new businesses fail etc. as you're just telling me stuff I already know, like you usually do.

memememe173

11-06-2004, 03:34

Says who?

I knew you'd say that...if you consistantly have fun at work, IMO it is only work if defined, but not in practice

Voice

11-06-2004, 03:36

when you say higher paying jobs are you refering to job titles or people who make a lot of money doing what they do ... (i.e. Are you saying most engineers are happier or are you saying that people who make $100 grand are happier?)

if your refering to the latter its because people who love their jobs tend to succeed in it ... passion goes a long way.

However, its also said that most people wont ever get their dream job because of the huge risk factor that goes into doing what they love. (There may not be even a job that does that, which means you have to build a position etc.)

Oh and meph .... it would be almost impossible to start a business with $500k .... Most business's have enough money to last 6-12 months with zero profit because a lot of times it takes time for the business to be known. .. and you couldnt buy a francise for that amount.

Garbad_the_Weak

11-06-2004, 03:39

when you say higher paying jobs are you refering to job titles or people who make a lot of money doing what they do ... (i.e. Are you saying most engineers are happier or are you saying that people who make $100 grand are happier?)

Thats a good point. I don't recall which (or both). I think it was just generally high paying jobs compared to low paying jobs, not high paid engineers vs low paid ones.

Good Distinction tho. I think it would be pretty obvious the low paid engineers would be more unhappy and less successful, etc.

Garbad

P.S. 10 min to decide if I go -- help me im indecisive!

P.S.2 Don't bother telling me 60% of new businesses fail

More like 80% in the first year and 50% of those in the 2nd year.

I don't think you can really say "investing in yourself" is a real investment except in rare instances (college, working your first few years in a big firm so you can get a better job), etc.

Doing things for personal enrichment or entertainment isn't an investment, although its obivously worthwhile in its own right.

mepersoner

11-06-2004, 03:42

Sure you could. Depends on where you were starting it etc.

And I said start a business, not buy a business. Buy a franchise for 500K? Come on, don't think I'm an idiot. Sheesh.

Garbad_the_Weak

11-06-2004, 03:45

Out of curiosity, what kind of job do you see yourself working in 5-10 years mep? I know you are like psychology or history undergrad right?

Garbad

DemBonez

11-06-2004, 03:47

Thats a good point. I don't recall which (or both). I think it was just generally high paying jobs compared to low paying jobs, not high paid engineers vs low paid ones.

"(less than 1% of college grads will ever earn $100k a year at any point in their life)."
-Garbad_the_Weak

If only 1% make it in that chateau, then you have a large swing in numbers. Do you have any idea what the sample base was, and then as a percentage of their financial range?

Garbad_the_Weak

11-06-2004, 03:56

"(less than 1% of college grads will ever earn $100k a year at any point in their life)."
-Garbad_the_Weak

If only 1% make it in that chateau, then you have a large swing in numbers. Do you have any idea what the sample base was, and then as a percentage of their financial range?

http://nces.ed.gov/surveys/rcg/

18k graduates, done by the govt, covers every major, etc.

That report combined with what I learned in my major (for a while I almost when into HR). The bad thing about that report is it covers graduates in an economic boom, so I think its unrealistically high.

The avg for college grads is about $45k I believe I would suspect 25/75 range is 20k and 40k. I would suspect the mean is about 30k, with the higher earners (65k+ pulling the average up a great deal).

Thats for the recent grad stuff.

Garbad

P.S. You can also wander around http://www.bls.gov/ for some very interesting stats. The have all kinds of interesting things there.

P.S.2. Ah, found it. http://www.bls.gov/ncs/ocs/sp/ncbl0539.pdf See page 3 for the specific numbers. I was off a bit, but not by much. Avg, Hourly earnings for college grads in ths us is $21.09, or roughly $42,000 a year not counting benefits.

P.S.3. Also interesting is to note the highest paying average industries. At a glance, I see only a few professions that average over 100k a year (specalist physicians, economics professors (wtf) <--btw, psyschology professors revolt, they pay the econ profs 4x as much, law professors, judges, airline pilots (200k a year, wtf), didnt see any others.

Remember, thats the average of all ages also, and at this point america is older and presumably at the peak of productivity than regular, so average earnings can be expected to drop demographically.

Another funny one is the average pro athlete makes 52k a year. Must be a lot of underpaid minor leaguers. Waiters average $4.21 an hour -_-

Garbad_the_Weak

11-06-2004, 04:25

Ok, I just found the perfect job.

Public administration manager. $63k avg salary a year and 21 hour workweek. I could handle that. -_-

Interestingly enough, the average part time social sciences teacher earns $63 an hour. I am guessing that is a statistical fluke. O_O

Garbad

P.S. Ok, I lied. The best job isn't a public administration manager. Its the airline pilot again. Not only do you earn great money ($120k a year, I was off above) but you get to see the world and only work ~22 hours a week.

Forcefeedback

11-06-2004, 04:59

I wouldn't like flying an aeroplane since I get easily jetlagged which gets me really disorientated. :(

Some unimportant judge sounds nice, giving yes and no answers to lengthy questions. :D

Btw, what was the alternative to deleting all the OT threads instead of locking them?

Wyvern

11-06-2004, 05:07

ACK since when was garbad allowed to highjack out threads and make us talk about things he likes?

lets talk about undressing barbies when we were little. garbad cant talk about that thought because he undressed ken dolls.

Sim.The.GoSu

11-06-2004, 05:11

OOOOOO BURN GRABY!!!!!

*Note: That was the typical Michael Kelso(that 70s show) Burn scream...

Garb, I dont think youd be elligable for a pilot... I think theyd spot the laptop with d2 installed... Lol, garb playing d2 while flying a plane o_O

proudfoot

11-06-2004, 05:18

Lego>Barbies you sickos.

Free the yeti!

Edit: That doesn't look so good, on second read...

Voice

11-06-2004, 05:32

yea to bad pilots have require a lot of physical attributes .... certain height etc. Also did you know that Americas overweight problem is causing problems with airplanes b/c between the high amounts of luggage we pack on planes and the new huge amount of weight that people weight makes some airlines ship luggage on other planes etc.

Just learned that today in class .... oh and um i was gonna be a pilot ... but im not anymore :rant:

Garbad_the_Weak

11-06-2004, 05:38

Btw, what was the alternative to deleting all the OT threads instead of locking them?

Not having them. Some people don't appriciate the fine culture in the druid forum.

Garbad

Voice

11-06-2004, 05:52

G.I.Joe > all

Im talkin bout the ones that had joints and could be taken apart and body parts switched to make your own joe .... those are classic.

KNOWING IS HALF THE BATTLE YO JOE !!!!!!!

TheUnchosen

11-06-2004, 06:34

Transformers > G.I.Joes

Can we say "Two toys in One"?

TheKbob

11-06-2004, 06:36

I'm studying Mechanical//Areonautical engineer and after talking with the head of the department at my university, most graduates hit around 50K-60K A year beginning. Top Areonaticals can get up to 65K.

That is at the beginning of a career, most average engineers make up to 70K I believe and higher up ones cane make 90K range. Not rich, but def comfortable. That is what I want :D

~Kbob

TheUnchosen

11-06-2004, 06:42

TheKbob,

Too many big words in your post...I can't be bothered to read them.

memememe173

11-06-2004, 07:04

so was just the druids OT underfire, or all the OT threads in Diablo forums?

TheUnchosen

11-06-2004, 07:08

underfire from what?

Eh?

TheGreatStickels

11-06-2004, 08:16

omg, I'm gone for like 2 days and you get our last thread nuked and are 8 pages into a new one.

not only that, but garbald haxxored our poll already, and everyone except one other person and me is voting against the pic of the pretty girl, I'm dissapointed in you all. Well, all of you except DemBonez

anyways, my internet just came back on, I'm happy

memememe173

11-06-2004, 08:30

underfire from what?

Eh?Weapons of math deduction

edit: BB for 5ish days, but I'll check in :waves:

Ash Housewares

11-06-2004, 08:42

your avatars all suck

TheUnchosen

11-06-2004, 08:52

your avatars all suck
Soo true.

I'm extra annoyed that Green Sheep With Joint wasn't in the poll.

Ash Housewares

11-06-2004, 08:54

I'm boycotting the poll, and pants

that'll learn 'em

TheUnchosen

11-06-2004, 08:55

I am envious of your 5 digit post count, Ash...

TheGreatStickels

11-06-2004, 09:00

I am envious of your 5 digit post count, Ash...

I'm not .

Ash Housewares

11-06-2004, 09:03

I am envious of your 5 digit post count, Ash...

it's down 500, did PD2 get iced?

TheUnchosen

11-06-2004, 09:10

yeah, Garbage deleted PD2..

I swap my left testicle for 10000 of your posts.

Ash Housewares

11-06-2004, 09:13

yeah, Garbage deleted PD2..

I swap my left testicle for 10000 of your posts.

I'm not presently on the market for a left testicle, I will keep you informed

TheGreatStickels

11-06-2004, 10:22

I could use a left testicle

I couldn't find bob, so I used Tor as a bodyguard for my last three posts

mepersoner

11-06-2004, 10:56

Who cares about averages? You were asking ME the question. I could care less about other people's average wages when calculating out my investments.

Ash Housewares

11-06-2004, 11:20

anybody else hate Reagan?

mepersoner

11-06-2004, 11:27

You're alone on that one kid.

Ash Housewares

11-06-2004, 11:35

don't call me kid, son

Reagan was a short-sighted dick

the enemy of an enemy is a friend?

idiot...

mepersoner

11-06-2004, 11:39

He was incredibly amusing though.

Sorry kid, to me you're just a boy.

Ash Housewares

11-06-2004, 11:40

not the sweetest way to treat your old buddy

got a bee in your bonnet about something in particular or just the same old boring ****?

mepersoner

11-06-2004, 11:43

Bee in the bonnet is the same old boring ****. :/

TheUnchosen

11-06-2004, 11:48

Bee in the bonnet is the same old boring ****. :/

Now girls, stop quarreling or I'll send you both into the Pit for some quality time.

mepersoner

11-06-2004, 11:50

Apparently Unchosen wasn't here when we overthrew the pit and started using it for our own twisted needs.

Ash Housewares

11-06-2004, 11:58

Apparently Unchosen wasn't here when we overthrew the pit and started using it for our own twisted needs.

everything is "we" with you

mepersoner

11-06-2004, 12:01

I just like to get credit when it isn't due.

Dolph

11-06-2004, 12:14

Voice

11-06-2004, 13:52

The last ~10 pages was pretty boring, 90% of it was statistics and economics. My brother finishes school today. yay, soon he will move out and I will have an entire flat to myself, although it is sad that he is leaving.

living w/o a room-mate isnt as fun as you think .... it actually sucks

kbob ... 2 degrees? if not i didnt know you could study mechanical + aeronautical ....

Forcefeedback

11-06-2004, 14:28

Just think for a minute.
We start a new and improved thread in the legendary druid saga and what an interesting start it gets: economics and bickering(sp).
Ok.
:bow:

I'll be back when Ash and mep have had their fix.

TheKbob

11-06-2004, 14:39

No, I meant I haven't really decided which one, but the University I'm attending has a Mechanical degree with an aeronautical slant.

~Kbob

Asheron

11-06-2004, 16:16

weee,came back from that 'party' , teh tired..

it went something like this: we went there by bike ,did BBQ in teh forest, it started raining,we ran home and slept in a barn full of hay ,which wasn't quite comfortable.. T_T

there was my friends gf who had to left cuz of her mum that night but that wasnt a big loss since she always hung around with him ,like 24/7 .. -_-

anyway i r teh back ,i smell and i dunno what to do

Voice

11-06-2004, 16:37

oh .... interesting .... dont do aerospace .... take it from me.

Garbad_the_Weak

11-06-2004, 16:38

AHAHAHAHAH

Someone actually voted for me.

Garbad

Asheron

11-06-2004, 16:46

I got no votes,afk crying.

Beowulf

11-06-2004, 16:52

wow the spam is back in this thread interesting......o well no use posting to much the bloody thing will be erased soon

Beowulf

11-06-2004, 17:22

AHAHAHAHAH

Someone actually voted for me.

Garbad

Bah as probably a mistake

Dolph

11-06-2004, 17:31

What the hell, no love for the might pexes of Heman?

I am so angry with my swedish teacher. only gave me VG(second highest of four possible), sure she is right, I screwed up way to much, but I still hate her.

TheGreatStickels

11-06-2004, 18:35

hmmm, I'm going to play stip air-hockey with hot twins today.

I love life

Voice

11-06-2004, 18:39

i have a test at 7 pm ..... and had one at 8 am already ..... life loves me

Beowulf

11-06-2004, 18:48

hmmm, I'm going to play stip air-hockey with hot twins today.

I love life
If you like little twin boys that is all good :howdy:

TheGreatStickels

11-06-2004, 19:10

If you like little twin boys that is all good :howdy:

you can try to turn this around on me, but the fact is is that they are hot as hell 16 year old identicle twin girls.

My good mood will not be broken.

Beowulf

11-06-2004, 19:14

you can try to turn this around on me, but the fact is is that they are hot as hell 16 year old identicle twin girls.

My good mood will not be broken.

ok ok good luck menage a trois can be fun as long as all parties agree and participate.

Voice

11-06-2004, 19:19

HEY !!!!!

At what age can girls become hot and sexy .... 16 or before ?????

I think im the exception

-shows some leg-

TheGreatStickels

11-06-2004, 19:21

HEY !!!!!

At what age can girls become hot and sexy .... 16 or before ?????

I think im the exception

-shows some leg-

no, you cannot be sexy, not with a Barney tar

they might even be 17, I'm not really sure

Voice

11-06-2004, 19:22

no, you cannot be sexy, not with a Barney tar

they might even be 17, I'm not really sure

But Barney LOVES YOU !!!!!!!

I LOVE YOU YOU LOVE ME WE'RE A HAPPY FAMILY WITH A GREEEEEEAT BIG HUG AND A KISS FROM ME TO YOU WON'T YOU SAY YOU LOVE ME TOO ????????????

Beowulf

11-06-2004, 19:27

I think 13 is too young for me....sorry you are ugly

Garbad_the_Weak

11-06-2004, 20:45

I just don't go for the boyish look at any age and young girls almost always have the "underdeveloped" physique. Training bra + 110 lbs or less is nt.

Even girls as old as 18-20 often still have girlish faces, which isn't bad always but its not...ideal. Still, some girls physically mature at different ages. I have seen some girls as low as 16 who looked good and some as old as late 30s that still were hot.

Of course, when I was 12 13 year old girls were hot :D

Garbad

Voice

11-06-2004, 20:59

Of course, when I was 12 13 year old girls were hot :D

Garbad

yea because you were a little horny dog.

Beowulf

11-06-2004, 21:10

yea because you were a little horny dog.

ahh dont you mean horny wolf?

Asheron

11-06-2004, 21:11

Too bad the girls didn't dig his charme.

Voice

11-06-2004, 21:14

Too bad the girls didn't dig his charme.

To bad they still dont dig it either but thats what beers for .... :buddies:

Garbad_the_Weak

11-06-2004, 21:46

Too bad the girls didn't dig his charme.

All things considered I probably would have been better off if they hadn't. :/

Garbad

Voice

11-06-2004, 21:58

All things considered I probably would have been better off if they hadn't. :/

Garbad

So you did the nasty to a 12 year old?

DemBonez

11-06-2004, 22:00

I was singing in Italian today.

I don't know Italian.

Asheron

11-06-2004, 22:07

I don't think I could sing something I don't understand.

That would be just.. plain stupid. T_T

Voice

11-06-2004, 22:13

I sing gangsta spanish and i dont know spanish at all

go go Tha Mexicanz

Asheron

11-06-2004, 22:18

You're a hawt 13 year old girl,so that explains alot.

TheKbob

11-06-2004, 22:43

Aerospace = NASA and space exploration

Aeronautical = Aircraft and things dealing with them.

There is a difference.

Mexicans... :lol: Watch this (http://www.esmas.com/adaywithoutamexican/lamovie.htm)

I know a cute 14 yr old, but the girl I'm after in around 18 (my age).

~Kbob

Voice

11-06-2004, 23:01

Aerospace = NASA and space exploration

Aeronautical = Aircraft and things dealing with them.

There is a difference.

The only difference is what your doing not in what you know.. for the most part. I think the only place where a difference is distinguished is when you go to grad school ...

what i meant though is the stuff you have to learn in those class's blows hard. I would guess 50+% of aero's drop out of it sometime in their junior year, and from what i know the people that graduate with it have around a 3.5+ out of major gpa but a 1.2'ish in major gpa ... so they graduate just above a 2.0.

Only good thing about aero is that you can get an ocean engineering degree w/ about 10-20 more credits ...same concept just moving through a different fluid.