I hate blizzard sorc's

[flapserdk]

I have a slvl 91 bone necro (no enigma), but some decent stuff. I use Wizard Spike, viper and Homu, so my resistance is more than maxed, but I have big troubles with Blizzard sorc. Even with about 150 % CR and Ravenfrost, I get killed instantly by Blizzard. What can I do ? Is it really necessary to wear dual ravenfrost, and Nightwing's ?

Plz help

[mrJ]

You need to stack more cold res, a lot more.

I'm not totally sure but I think you need near 250%, if not more, in order to maintain max cold res after mastery pierce.

[Soepgroente]

A good pierce will do about -250% cold resistance. Then there's a potential hell penalty for another -100, and then you need to max your resist for another 75-95. So you need quite a bit.

[Dr4kan]

slap on 2 x raven frosts, socket ur armor with a thul rune, throw a perf sapphire in ur homonculus, get a 30 cold res jewel for ur wiz spike, otherwise jus any all res jewel.
get a decent res amulet(a good maras will do too) if u have access to some good rare boots with high res, use em, otherwise pick jus about any with good str/dex on em for gear, for belt u could try a snowclash if u wanna be a bit more of a absorb lamer, but otherwise trang ouls belt is good for mana/life, and use trang ouls gloves(u get a good mana regen bonus, and 30 cold res/cast from gloves)
socket ur helm with an um or thul rune(depending how many u got)
get as many cold res charms as u can to get a high res. ur gonna try to stack ur res so u can have max or near max cold res in hell.
alternative is using 4 socket shield/armor to throw thul runes/perf sapphires for extremely high res, but u will lose skills/mana/cast etc. but u should have high enough res to at least stand a chance against the sorcs.
if ur a bone necro, spam teeth in directions to force the sorc into staying a bit in the back row. have spirits traveling, so u can get some lucky hits now and then, and always stay on the run.
blizz sorcs are beatable, i myself would pick an orb sorc over a blizz sorc, orb is alot easier to hit, as it can hit running ppl a lot better then blizz. u also need to get fairly close to namelock blizz on somebody.

[Watzit2ya]

If you have trouble with a particular class, you can always keep those resist charms in your inv. GC's wih 20-30% cold resists will be cake to get/find/trade for. Along with a 4 P saph kite shield, or whatever shield adding 160% to cold, 2 raven's youll be fine. Just throw in however many resist Charms you need.

[FsF.Demon]

A good pierce will do about -250% cold resistance. Then there's a potential hell penalty for another -100, and then you need to max your resist for another 75-95. So you need quite a bit.

ur saying that all good blizz players use a lvl 47 cm becuz thats wats needed for -250 which is completely uneeded. most blizz sorcs can do atleast 8k which can easily kill any char in a sec or so. that makes the cm -235 with +24 to cold skills.(13 from gear, 10 from gcs, 1 for anni).

back to the original post ur best bet is just try to avoid the blizzs as best u can cuz most sorcs will b able to kill u if u stack on so much resists ur skills will be suckin. just take the deaths like a pro and dont ***** and complain about it. ull get ur chance to kill them. gl and hf playin

[Ryshenron]

ur saying that all good blizz players use a lvl 47 cm becuz thats wats needed for -250 which is completely uneeded. most blizz sorcs can do atleast 8k which can easily kill any char in a sec or so. that makes the cm -235 with +24 to cold skills.(13 from gear, 10 from gcs, 1 for anni).

back to the original post ur best bet is just try to avoid the blizzs as best u can cuz most sorcs will b able to kill u if u stack on so much resists ur skills will be suckin. just take the deaths like a pro and dont ***** and complain about it. ull get ur chance to kill them. gl and hf playin
cold sorcs use facets bub...so theres another -20+ resists right there...so its not that hard

[Phyrexial]

Lets go with the assumption that the cold sorc has cold mastery at -250% and another -20% in facets.

Assuming you are dueling in hell, you will need an additional 100 cold res. Now, the rest is determind by how much you want to raise your max cold res by. If you want to have 75 res after all is said and done, you will need 445 cold res. 460 if you want 90% cold res.

75 res Wiz Spike
15 res jewel in Wiz Spike
35 res Skins
15 res Um rune in Skins
70 res Kiras Guardian Helm
15 res Um rune in helm
160 res 4 P Sapphire Shield (monarch most likely)
30 res Maras

This gets you 415 cold res and with the exception of the shield gives you very good all around res. Switch out the shield for a 4 ptopaz shield and you've not got an anti-foh setup as well. Add a Tgods and/or Wisps for that. For the Blizz sorc, this setup leaves your rings free for Ravens and your belt for a Snowclash if you want it. At 415 cold res, you'll need 30 cold res coming from charms to hit 75 res. If you want to hit 90 cold res, you'll need 45 cold res from charms.

If you don't mind losing some versatility, you can get more cold res in the form of a 4 thul helm which is 120 cold res as opposed to an Um'ed perfect Kira's which gets you 85. With the extra 35 cold res, you will only need 10 cold res from charms (easily done if you have an Annihilus) to hit 90 cold res.

[Omikron8]

O_O ?

Helms have max 3 sockets....

[Jowy]

Or you could try to do it the "fair" way and dodge the Blizzards instead of overabsorbing like that. With that kind of res/absorb the Sorc won't deal damage higher than in the double digits, or he might even heal you if he didn't invest much in synergies.

BS kills most Sorcs in 2-3 hits so against an average Sorc the fight isn't that hard.

[Phyrexial]

If you want to make things even, bringing their damage down enough to take 3-4 hits sounds about right. Thats about how many of my spears/spirits most sorcs can take.

I personally fight blizz sorcs under 1 hit kill conditions. This is more due to me being too lazy to actually make an anti-blizz setup than anything else. The thing is, I use Enigma. For a running necro, I'd imagine this would be alot harder.

[Joe_smith]

Or you could try to do it the "fair" way and dodge the Blizzards instead of overabsorbing like that. With that kind of res/absorb the Sorc won't deal damage higher than in the double digits, or he might even heal you if he didn't invest much in synergies.

BS kills most Sorcs in 2-3 hits so against an average Sorc the fight isn't that hard.

i agree. assuming the sorc is doing most of the offense or at least half of it a necro still has the advantage even if he gets 1 hitted. ibs beats everything in defensive dueling and tele spear lock and teeth spam are great agaisnt blizz sorcs. notice blizz sorcs have casting delay unless they are the type that spam i blizz then tele 3 screens away simple tele locks can get them quite often. and if they play ultra defensively just ibs them to death. unless the blizz sorc has very fast name lock, good predicting ability or aa it shoudnt' be too hard. i dont' think it's worth it to fill up you inventory just to negate cold sorcs unless you find it annoying that u get 1 hitted while dueling against a bunch of people.

[LordDrift]

get a 160 cold resists shield or a 200+ if u got a good pally shield

[Soepgroente]

ur saying that all good blizz players use a lvl 47 cm becuz thats wats needed for -250 which is completely uneeded. most blizz sorcs can do atleast 8k which can easily kill any char in a sec or so. that makes the cm -235 with +24 to cold skills.(13 from gear, 10 from gcs, 1 for anni).
Like somebody else said, they use about slvl 40-43 cold mastery and then some facets. And good blizzard sorcies do about 14k, not 8k. Less on NL though since death's fanthom isn't there.

[HandofElysium]

get a 160 cold resists shield or a 200+ if u got a good pally shield

200 pluse cold resist shield,snowclash,ravenfrost,plus salvation = pretty good immunity. If you have an avenger build with max cold resist thats even better :D