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does guided arrow ama fight well vs bone necs?
im thinking about one with valk, decay as tank; slow missle and alot of points in dodge/avoid; also very fast attack speed, hope it can stunlock... now i dont know what would be better, dex or vita, life is very needed but dex adds damage to bow.. any advice or opinions from players who tried this in 1.10 ?
Teknocide
07-06-2004, 04:00
does guided arrow ama fight well vs bone necs?
im thinking about one with valk, decay as tank; slow missle and alot of points in dodge/avoid; also very fast attack speed, hope it can stunlock... now i dont know what would be better, dex or vita, life is very needed but dex adds damage to bow.. any advice or opinions from players who tried this in 1.10 ?
A problem can occur if you get bone-prisoned. From what I've heard, this pretty much stops your arrows from doing any good at all.
yes, but u can teleport...
even if u cant, then u can use hit and run(with knockback) to keep distance so they wont come close enought to prison
nec got better cast rate so it will be hard to fight against teleporting/walling/spearing nec, but who dont have hard life with nec today? :teeth:
at lest thats what i think... :cheesy:
Actually, knockback is banned from most duels...
Death on Dark Wings
07-06-2004, 17:55
You can solve these problems one-by-one (I'll list em for you), but I'm truly not sure how you fight against these as a bone nec myself:
- Magic Damage
Fundamental problem. How you intend to resist the might of close to 1000 damage per hit (WITH pvp reduce), I leave it up to your imagination.
- Max Block
Maximum block rate has been used against amazons ever since 'there was light'. Homunculus has simply made it easier for bone necros to deal against amazons.
- Bone Prison
Enigma/Teleport ammy is your choice of escape. Personally I won't resort to this although I like keeping 'pets' as I slowly kill them as I type a sentence per shot, but Marrowwalk necros mostly don't use this strategy, unless they have lots of Orts in their stash.
- Teleport
Pros can avoid your guided arrows using this. Noobs can run from them using this. Cunning permits guiding your arrows into walls.
- Bone armor
Even against 10k+ dmg dealing pvp zons, my bone armor always saves me from 1 hit worth of damage. Perhaps you deal 20k+ dmg (I jest... I jest...), but I've not really been into amazons since 1.1
- Decrepify
Another tricky move. Decrepify reduces your attack rate, damage and movement speed. All the more I don't see how you break through Bone armor,, Max Block etc. under this curse. So I believe you should try to kill the necro before he comes in range to cast this. A necromancer's challenge to slow missiles.
- The Stacking Technique
20 immune to physical revives. A properly geared up act 1 merc. A clay golem. 20 skeleton warriors. 20 skeleton mages. Pierce? Even assuming you 100% pierce (impossible, I know...) and you have damage to take out one of the above each in 1 shot. It'll take you 30 shots to finish off most summons. That leaves 1 shot for the golem. 31 shots. Assuming you do this in 31 x 7 frames. If I'm not wrong that's 217/23. That means around 9 seconds to finish off all the targets. That leaves the mercenary bug to deal. Perhaps you'll switch to javelin or something. Good luck, just hope you don't run out of arrows trying to kill all of them...
I am not proselytising the necromancy movement. I am just presenting your position as an Amazon. The most common way Amazons use to beat necromancers is to use Slow Missiles. Try not to let the necromancer appear in your face though...
i know, but i need something for pub duels that can fight well vs bone nec(and its not another bone nec)
i got v/t, truly if i get meele with them i have no problem but if they are teleporting like mad with good res i just cant hit them, also they stay out of conv range while teleporting... really hard to duel them for me :(
also i got few cool bows, and i never used them, thats why i thought about amazon :)
Teknocide
08-06-2004, 01:57
i know, but i need something for pub duels that can fight well vs bone nec(and its not another bone nec)
i got v/t, truly if i get meele with them i have no problem but if they are teleporting like mad with good res i just cant hit them, also they stay out of conv range while teleporting... really hard to duel them for me :(
also i got few cool bows, and i never used them, thats why i thought about amazon :)
Here's an idea:
Max guided arrow, max LF. Perhaps some lightning synergies. LF kills bone-prison, bone-walls or anything boneish; especially a pack of skellies. You might want to max CS as well, to dish out some damage in case he feels brave and stand put if you charge him (which, I know, might not be such a blessed idea if he's spitting bone-spirits like an oiled chain-gun). If he starts to run, let some guided arrows hunt him down.. it should do the trick.
Edit: I know you intended to make a bowazon, but hybridzons can actually prove to be very good. Even if you decide to only max LF.
flapserdk
08-06-2004, 12:21
I have a slvl 91 boner (no enigma and no marrowbug) with some ok gear, and it is almost imposible for an ama with GA to kill me. I never use BC against an ama unless she use SM. My tactic is simpel, but very effective. When she shoot GA I just cast a BW in front of me, and the GA will hit the BW instead. Because my 130 % fcr, I can cast BW faster than she can destroy them, an that give me time to fire BS, and force her in defensive.
MS is much more dangerous than GA, because MS can pierce through BW, but if you make 3-4 BW they can absorb most MS arrows.
I eat bow ama's for breakfast, hehe
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