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Garbad_the_Weak
06-06-2004, 23:22
Hey all,

This account belonged to Scoo2ter, who posted on these boards and dueled in 76Legit for a long time. His acct was based pretty much entirely on PvP (although he was not rich) and his best char is a summon druid.

This acct will be given to whoever can post the best summon druid idea. The acct should have the charms and basic gear to create it.

West NL

Garbad

Asheron
06-06-2004, 23:36
Enouigh stats to win and pk.






btw. didn't you do this once with your old shaman stuff? O_o

~Kazama Fury~
06-06-2004, 23:40
for PvP i assume?
i say old school shockbear but with compensation of 1.10 problems. ok i am gonna write this as i go through.

max grizzly
max spirit wolves
max HoW
max lycanthropy
rest in shockwave

you will be shockwaving, and have the grizzly do the attacks. from my quick calculations, grizzly would do 5155-5391 and have 3987-5437 life. HoW would increase grizzly's attack/damage. Spirit wolves is there to improve grizzly's ar since he doesnt have itd anymore. Because of the huge life that the grizzly has, you must be extra careful to not let them leech off of it.

gear
Shako Cham'ed
HotO
2 Sojs
Arachnids
Magefists
Enigma
Aldurs Boots
20%fcr +2 druid ammy or +2summon skills.
If cant afford that, use a 10%fcr and a caster ammy.
Hel Stormshield/Resists shield depending on situation.

TheKbob
07-06-2004, 00:33
I don't really want nor need a West account, just want to wave goodbye to someone such as him.

Oh and to your Quote about the 13yr old hottie or w/e... that's true no 13 years olds, but I have seen a 14 yr old that you may double take. :lol:

~Kbob

Legacy_QuEsT
07-06-2004, 02:42
I don't really want nor need a West account, just want to wave goodbye to someone such as him.

Oh and to your Quote about the 13yr old hottie or w/e... that's true no 13 years olds, but I have seen a 14 yr old that you may double take. :lol:

~Kbob


I would be interested in the account if it's a ladder account since trying out a summoning druid is on my next to do list. I would really appreciate the 10x GC charms to assist me in creating this build.

Um, I was going to try a summoning with points 20 pnts in the wolves where you can get max of 5 and 20 points in bear. Maxing the Heart of whatever that returns damage and using these summons as a duel tank to return damage and the bear as a big damage dealer besides the fact that the birds will be keeping things away from me. I'll have a good amount of points left so I'll probably put points in fury and everything that can help it. As for equipment i'll try to use the most +skill equipment first to see the max damage and then interchange equipment for more res/life/def on it as needed.

I would really appreciate just the 10 summon GC for help working on a viable summoning build and I could write something up about it afterwards. Only if it's ladder though, and I only need the summon GC's not the account.

Rauth
07-06-2004, 02:55
Would Spirit of barbs do decent damage to a barb who wwed the 8klife(bo) bear? That might be worth putting a point into just to annoy the ww babas. It seems to work with iron maiden and skellys so why not with bear.

~Kazama Fury~
07-06-2004, 03:57
i thought of that, but i feel because of its high amount of life, barbs may be able to still leech off more life than take back.

skellies = undead non-leechables. so an IM'ed barb who attacks the skellies will not gain any life at all (ok except for the +life from enigma).

bears are leechables and have high life. good thing for the barb if hes able to get a hit.

Tor
07-06-2004, 03:59
kaz beat me to the shock bear ><"

hmm howbout a fire summoner..weaker summons for some ranged spells to hit peopel from afar

15 grizzly
15 spirit wolves
15 Oak
10 Direwolves
5 lycan
5 wb
5 sw
1raven


1ab
1ca
1twister
1tornado
1hurricane
1fs
1mb
20 volc
11 fissure
1 geddon

gear
cham Shako
Hoto/lidless
2 Sojs
Arachnids
Magefists
bramble (thorns on summons hurts)
Aldurs Boots
maras//rare +2 druid/stat/resits/fcr
hoto/wizpike maybe beast for fanat/prebuff /-15 req/stat ss

Legacy_QuEsT
07-06-2004, 04:13
WOW you must be talking non ladder if you're talking about bramble and chammed shakos. Is this a ladder or non ladder account??

Tor
07-06-2004, 04:24
It says NL...read it ><""

MaxxBot
07-06-2004, 04:42
Did good old scoo2ter quit d2? I haven't seen him on for a long time. I was on his 76legit team for a while.

Rauth
07-06-2004, 05:01
i thought of that, but i feel because of its high amount of life, barbs may be able to still leech off more life than take back.

skellies = undead non-leechables. so an IM'ed barb who attacks the skellies will not gain any life at all (ok except for the +life from enigma).

bears are leechables and have high life. good thing for the barb if hes able to get a hit.

Oh right. Forgot about that stupid leech. I need a skelly bear.

I'm gonna test out max spirit of barbs and some bramble armor to see if it can counter that leech. I would just make a max bear druid with max Spirit of Barbs for killing barbs.(ironic?) Can you get iron maiden charges on a wand I wonder? All three of them might be enough to do it. Using wolves might be an a good idea since they have much lower life. Damn botd for having so much leech.

*goes to experiment*

memememe173
07-06-2004, 05:37
Garbad's giving away lots of accounts tonight...I'd watch out, if he knows your pass....CHANGE IT!

)BoNes(
07-06-2004, 05:44
Awww Grabald please give me and Ash the account...I'm planning on making a shockbear anyhow.

Heres my plan so far:

Setup 1
Jalals (most likely Um/Shael or a P ruby)
20%fcr, +2skills ammy
Beast
Vipermagi
Stormshield (Cham or -req jewel depending on ring choice)
Magefist
Arach
Raven/Soj+10fcr ammy
Aldurs or Waters or Sandstorms

10 Summon Gcs (maybe with life), 9life/res/frw/fhr scs, Anni

This setup will grant decent skills, 100fcr break, decent res, Great bear dmg.
This would be an all round dueling setup, slightly leaning towards fights vs melee/high defence.

Setup 2
Jalals (most likely Um/Shael or a P ruby)
20%fcr, +2skills ammy
HotO
CoH
Stormshield (Cham or -req jewel depending on ring choice)
Magefist
Arach
Raven/Soj+Soj
Aldurs or Waters or Sandstorms

10 Summon Gcs (maybe with life), 9life/res/frw/fhr scs, Anni

This setup will have better skills, 100fcr break, Great res, but crappier bear dmg. Basic vs caster setup, as the bear shouldnt have a hard time hitting anyway.

Skills

20 Grizzly
20 Spirit Wolves
20 Lycanthropy
20 HoW
1 SoB
Prereqs: 7

The remaining 12 points (aimed at lvl 90) would be spent in either Shockwave (roughly 170 dmg with 13 points in it, 60 with 1), Werebear (extra defence is always nice, increase of about 100%), or Oak (when facing weak, high dmg casters such as fire sorcs or for teams).


In total, this would net roughly (according to my weak calculations) 7kish Bear dmg w/o Beast, around 8-8.5k with (possibly more), as well as decent ar (i think it comes out to 7k without Beast, again don't quote me on that). The char would have extremely high amounts of life, most likely 5k ish with a weak oak. I also think that SoB would help even out matchups like barbs. Just like in 1.09, a pack of Spirit Wolves+SoB would be rather deadly.
BTW spirit wolves would also have decent dmg, roughly 1.5k with beast.

Wow I just realized its 11pm and I havnt started my isu due tomorrow :cheesy:

Well Grabald I hope you choose me ^_______________^;;

PS: I'll write a guide if he turns out good (and he will :thumbsup: ).

<3

Legacy_QuEsT
07-06-2004, 10:22
**bones sells everything for non druid stuff as soon as he gets account**

Kirby Hunter
07-06-2004, 11:22
O_o I want the Acct T.T>_<I've always wanted to rebuild my shockbear(My old one was on asia and i had nothing much therE)T.t

Setup
Jalals/Good Delirium/Rare Godly Druid Helm
+3 Summoning +100 life ammy against Certain chars(Maras most of the time)
Beast Caddy Preferably Or a Hoto
Enigma/Guardian angel/Skin of the vi per magi
Stormshield with Cham or -req jewel depending on ring/Other sockets
Trang Ouls since I might be low on res
Arach/Trang Ouls/Crafted
Raven/Soj Or Soj/Soj///Bk/Bk If i find that im short on life
Water walks most of the time, possibly Aldurs or Sandstorms if i need more str/Vit/Def

10 Summon Gcs (maybe with life), the rest of the scs likely= Res(cold, Lightning)

Skills
20 Grizzly
20 Spirit Wolves
20 Lycanthropy
20 HoW
1 WErebear
1 Shockwave/maul
Rest into Maybe Oak sage(I might need against casters)
I'd assume this would be an okay set
if its not good>_<Ill try harder

steve2677
07-06-2004, 12:54
Ok here's my shot at it!

Skills:
1 Raven
1 Oak
1 HoW
1 SoB
20 Spirit wolves
1 Dire wolves
20 Grizzly

1 Firestorm
1 Boulder
20 Fissure
20 Volcanoe

Equipment:

Enigma
Heart Of The Oak
Arachnids
+2 20% fast cast druid amulet with res all
SS w/ -15% req/ 15% res all jewel
Magefists
Soj/Bk rings depending on what i would need life/mana
Shako w/ um or a +str/res all jewel
Sandstorm treks

My charms would be 10 summon w/ life, 6 fhr smalls w/ life or res depending on whats needed and 3 small vitas w/ res, and annihilus.
Total fhr is 50%, fast cast is 100% and life would be dependant on which spirit i needed at the time. The purpose of all 3 at lvl 1 is with 20 or more + skills it will give me the option of switching in a duel to what i need. Mainly just between HoW and SoB depending on what char i am dueling.
Even though this setup of skills can end at lvl 75 with all skill quests you could after put ne remaining points into firestorm for fissure, or boulder for more volcanoe damage but its all phys :(.
As for strategy id have to do my best at when and where to use volcanoe and fissure. Even though i know fissure is decent at damaging ww barbs when they whirl over or when other chars are running after you, and volcanoe for those sit and shoot zons/ sorcs/ necros etc. (yes i know sorcs and necros tele but doesn't mean you still cant get them to stop spamming by placing a volcanoe under them :D).
Id use mainly spirit wolves for this druid due to the tele attack with the equivilant of grizzly damage in youre opponents. Not from each wolf but collectively, it's like having a 5 attack summon doing 900+ damage per attack before pvp penalties.

Personally i think this would be a hoot to duel with and try out:D

Garbad_the_Weak
07-06-2004, 16:05
I think I am liking bones idea so far. Hardly original, but worth a shot. Perhaps a windshocker could be viable and forget maxing dire?

Garbad

Kirby Hunter
07-06-2004, 16:08
Ok
Im rediong it(everyone elses looks more fancier >_<)
Skill Point Placement
20 Grizzly(Your main Summoning Weapon)
20 Or 1 Heart of Wolverine
20 Spirit Wolf(Ar!!!, Important now days)
20 Or 1 Into Lycanthropy(20 If you decide to stay Shifted and Shockwave your opponents, 1 if you only occasionaly use werebear and more so like to teleport)
A)The summoner
20 Grizzly
20 Spirit Wolf
20 HoW
20 Lycan
1 into Werebear/Shockwave
Rest of the points into possibly Werebear/Shockwave(stun duration, def)
B)The Summoning/ELemental Hybrid
20 Grizzly
20 Spirit Wolf
1 How
1 Lycan
1 Werebear
1 Shockwave/Maul
20 Tornado
20 Hurricane
Rest into Cyclone armor/Twister

Set Up
VS CASTERS
Helm:Jalals(all res, 2 skills, str,energy, nicehelm)
SHako(+life,Mana,2 skills, 10% DR, 2 all stats)
Nightwings Veil(+dex, +8-15% Cold dmg,Nice to use if you decide you
that you like huricane)
Rare Druid Helm(Potentionally can have+life,res,2 druid,3 Grizzly ETC) <===This kind of helm might cost alot
Rare Circlet with 2 Druid/Fcr/Res/Stats(Definitely nice)
Helms should be socketed with Cham if you dont like teleporting, Um/Res jewel/%dmg to mana jewel/+stats Jewel


Weapon:HoTo(Seems pretty much a popular weapon now, it offers 40 Fcr, 30~40% all res, 3 ALL SKILLS, the other mods arent worth mentioning)
Wizard Spike(50% Fcr, 75% All res, +2mana per lvl,15% Mana, a great weapon for those who cant afford hoto or need stacked res)
Suicide Branch(This was a popular weapon because of its +50 life bonus,10% mana, +1 skill, and 50 Fcr<=I used this to lvl to 70 At one time)
Socketing:Go with Either Fals/Etc for stats, Io for Vit, All res jewel for res(If you find yourself lacking)


Armor: Enigma(This is possibly the best armor possible for most classes, It has +str Based on your level,+1 TELEPORT, 2 skills, 45% R/w, perfect mods)
Chains Of Honor(+65 all res(!!), 2 skills, 20 str)
Skin of the vipermagi(All res, +1skills, 30 Fcr Nice for those who lack fcr)
Que Hegans Wisdom(+1 skills, 20 fcr,20 fhr, Plenty of Ed, I only use this when i dont need res, and need a little more fhr)
Stealth(25% Fcr,+dex,Mana regen)
Ormus Robe(+xx/Fire/Cold/Light dmg, 20 fcr, mana regen, Possible use for upping your hurricane if you decide to go Ele/Summon)
Socketing:Um,Cham,+Stat Jewels,Rare fhr/dtm/stat jewels,Cold facet
(when making an enigma, if you shoot for high str, go with archon, low str Breast plate or Mage plates are the best(To me that is =) )

Belt: Arachnid's Mesh(20 Fcr!,1 skills, 10% Slow,+xx% max mana increase, this is like the perfect Caster Belt, Ideal for summoners who lack fcr)
GOdly Crafted(Can have up to 10%fcr,stats,24 FHR, A very nice one MIGHT beat arachnids mesh, but probably not by much)
Trang ouls(+life,mana, and cannot be frozen, what else can you expect from a belt?^^Its good)


Amulet:+3 Summoning with +9x-100Life(Good for +skills, life)
Maras(20-30 All res, +5 all stats, +2 skills, a great amulet)
Crafted(Can have +2 skills,10-20 fcr,+stats,res)


Rings:Raven Frost(a classic, it has 20% COld absorb,15-20 Dex, CANNOT BE FROZEN, an essential mod for those who despise or are not allowed to teleport)
Stone of jordan(called the soj, offers +mana,Increases max mana by 25%, and has +1 skills, Definitely good for those who lack mana)
Bul kathos Wedding Ring(+1 skills,3-5% ll, .5 Life per lvl, good for those who lack life)
Rare FcR RING(can have 10 fcr, +stats,+res, if you find a good one and lack fcr, use it!)

Shield:Stormshield(The king of all shields it has been called, it has lit res,COLD RES, 35% DR(!!) and good blocking, however, it requires quite a bit dex to acheive 75% Block
Set round shield(High block, fast block, low reqs~A good shield for those who dont need dr)
Sanctuary(+res(50-70 i believe), good blocking,Defense
Lidless Wall(20% FCr,+1 skills, a nice shield)
SOcketed with Cham,Ber, Eld,Um,-req jewel(STorm =p)
Whatever you find you are lacking

Boots: Sandstorm Treks(it has 20%FHr/R/w, nice def, +11-15 Str/Vit,its green,has high poison res and Repairs itself(making an eth one even better!)
waterwalks(The classic boots, it has +65life at max, has 5% Max fire res and other useful mods such as 15 Dex)
Aldurs(+50 Life, 40% R/w, High fire res(49?), and %dtm i believe)

Glove:Magefist(20%Fcr, mana regen(15%)
Trang ouls Claws(30% Cold res,20% FCR, a great glove overall)

Charms:10 Summoning with Fhr/Life or plain
9~xxLife/Res charms(11 lit/Cold are probably best<==Foh and Blizzard)
1 Annhilius if you have one is great

O>_<O
oh yeha and the stats

Str:Base or 103(Base for Enigma Breast Plate, 103 for using Archon Plate)
Dex:Enough Dex For max block with the shield of your choice(Barring Lidless, which is almost impossible to get 75% block with)
Vit:All the rest, hopefully 290+
Energy:What?O.o

Kirby Hunter
07-06-2004, 16:27
Goal of the Build(either the Elemental Summoner or the pure summoner)
Achieve Either 68 or 99 FCR(12, 11 frame Casting)11,10 as a bear
Get at least 1k+Life unshifted
Im not sure about FHR, but i believe you should change depending on who you fight with
Example)Aganist most hammerdins, fhr wont really matter because 1 hammer=gg 0.o
However, against chars like say, Zealots, Fury druids, Having decent fhr might be required, i just cant find that imformation =.=tt
and
er
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I LOVE YOU GARBAD O_O>_< (~^.^)~ `(-.-)` (o'_')=9

theBlackKnight
07-06-2004, 17:03
Megolithic Summoner Hybrid

stats :

str as low as possible but still able to equip gear
Dex: just enough for max block depending on what shield you use
Life: Everything Else
Energy: Go buy a mana pot from akara.

Skills: Shapeshifting
Feral Rage : the 1 point wonder
werewolf : 1-5( depending on preference)
lycanthropy : 1
Rabies: 20
TOTAL: 23-28

Elemental Skills:
None, if you want some, well then this isnt the guide for you now is it?

Summoning Skills
Ahh, the main meat of the hybrid
20 into dire wolves
20 into wearbear
20 into your choice of spirit ( heart of the oak or heart of the wolverine)**
and the remainder into spirit wolves.

this takes at minimum 83 points, doable by level 71 with all skill point quests.

** your preference in spirit depends on whether you want a mass damage pack of minions or a mass life meatshield.

:: Best gear::
Cham Jalals Mane
Bramble Armor
1 carrion wind ring
1 bul kathos wedding band with 5% leech
Verdungos hearty cord
crafted 20 ias 6% ll gloves with crushing blow and stats OR trangouls gloves
gore riders
stormshield
and a 4 shealed grizwolds caucedues.

With this setup you have a very fast rabies attack, max block, openwounds, crushingblow, and if you chose trang ouls gloves and got lucky on the spawn of your bramble, 75% more poison damage, which can raise your rabies to extreme Highs!!!

More later because I have to leave right now :(

TheGreatStickels
07-06-2004, 18:24
ok Garbald, as I've just recently started playing again and am starting up a breeder all over again, I may as well give this a shot.

Breeder

basic skill layout was

MAX Spirit Wolves
MAX Poison Creeper
MAX HoW
5-10 Dire Wolves
5-10 Grizzly
10-15 either arctic blast or Hurricane, depending on how you like to play.
prereqs

Str: only enough for your gear
Dex: Either enough for Max block, or none at all
Life: everything not placed elsewhere
Energy: none

Gear - the main things you need from gear are +skills, resistances, and life. Nothing else is of much importance.

Run around with Hurricane or Arctic blast colding the hell out of everything and let your summons do the real killing. Poison Creeper is usually pretty good PvP unless your opponent has Poison Resist like crazy because it can't be killed and tends to get ignored.

Winona
07-06-2004, 18:34
1 point into every skills. complete set of every ghetto item with ugly colors. Run around in dueling games watching ppl calling you noob enough many times untill they forget to breath in between.

win by walkover.

TheGreatStickels
07-06-2004, 19:25
damn it, ignore my post grabald, its west, I'm east now. bah

Asheron
07-06-2004, 19:33
bones should win.

^_______________________________^::

Kirby Hunter
09-06-2004, 10:44
bones should win.

^_______________________________^::

O.O What happened to this post?=p = + Did BOnes Win??

Asheron
09-06-2004, 11:20
O.O What happened to this post?=p = + Did BOnes Win??

Yea he did. :surprise: