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hoarshade
06-06-2004, 04:34
i got a grand charm from baals minions today, in hell(it was the last phase, the messed up looking things with lister, if that matters) what is the item level of it? should i use it to reroll? or is it not a high enough level to get all mods?

Pucho
06-06-2004, 04:54
ilvl 88 from Lister
ilvl 87 from minions

Shade
06-06-2004, 04:54
It will be Item Level 88 (edit: whether from Lister or minions, they should all be the same) - so it can't get the very highest mods, but it's able to get good mods nonetheless (only the highest possible +life is impossible on it).

hoarshade
06-06-2004, 04:57
can i get skill charms with 2nd mods on it?

Shade
06-06-2004, 05:07
Yes, you can.

hoarshade
06-06-2004, 05:18
ok one more question, does the character level that i am rerolling with make a difference at all? thanks for the help!

Shade
06-06-2004, 05:22
Character level is totally irrelevant for this recipe (3PGems + magic item), so you can use any character at all.

Dawnmaster
08-06-2004, 17:35
Erm shade, any hell charm can be used to reroll, but you'll be needing char level as high as possible if you're aiming for a 50life charm of 15toallres or +1toskilland45life. (Which are the best charms there can be found)

If you have a char with level84 or more it only takes you 1-3 rolls to get a skiller if you use a hell charm that you just found.

Thats just my 2 cents :thanks:

Shade
08-06-2004, 17:52
...char level is irrelevant.

There are 3 columns in cubemain.txt:

lvl: Fixed level of output (3 Pgems recipe has this blank)
plvl: Percentage of character level to use for output ilvl (also blank)
ilvl: Percentage of original ilvl to use for output (100)

So the output will have the same ilvl and qlvl regardless of character level... so it won't affect anything...

46-50 life will never spawn on charms since it has alvl 110. The only way to get a charm at that level would be from Super-Diablo, and as soon as you left the game it'd be reset to ilvl = 99 anyway...

+skill charms are easy enough to get though, and you can use any Hell charm for them fairly reliably (there are lots of +skill affixes which makes the chance of any one of them appearing a lot higher).

Gundam
11-06-2004, 10:14
[QUOTE=Shade+skill charms are easy enough to get though, and you can use any Hell charm for them fairly reliably (there are lots of +skill affixes which makes the chance of any one of them appearing a lot higher).[/QUOTE]

Somebody made a pretty good post about this a while back. The main point was that to get the most popular kinds of charms, ie the skill ones, you are actually best off not going for higher level charms.

I can't find the original post now, but I think the best place was act1 hell, maybe about halfway through. Charms dropped there have enough level to get the mods u want, but not heaps of higher level mods that u don't want. Makes sense to me, but I can't remember the exact details.

I got a grand charm from baal 5 minutes ago... now I'm wondering what to do with it. It's got +10 damage/+66Ar which isn't so much use on it's own. I'm not sure if I should re-roll it, or just stick to ones I get from act 1.

FrozenSolid
11-06-2004, 10:30
Can someone tell me a little about rerolling charms and how its done etc?
I know...lol @ me...

Bull(R)
11-06-2004, 17:45
Can someone tell me a little about rerolling charms and how its done etc?
I know...lol @ me...

3Pgems + Charm in your Cube, and then hit Transmute.

clvl is not at ALL calculated in rolling gcs... If it was my level 98 would be pumping out THOUSANDS of skillers, and trust me he doesn't.