Please help me with my build

[Hadriel]

Hello I'm possibly going to create an amazon similiar to the one suggested in this guide:

http://forums.rpgforums.net/showthread.php?t=126861

In the section where he talks about Magic Arrow, he says that it being a good PI killer being one of the main reasons for using it, among others like it costs no mana once at a certain level.

But how does this compare to Cold arrow and Fire arrow for killing PI's?
They have greater percentage conversion.

I want my character's main skill to be strafe and then one skill for PI's.

Any comments welcome.
Thanks.

[det]

Since you can't leech off PI's, MA would be the "cheaper" skill, manawise...but since it only converts a part of your damage to magical damage, a lv 20 Immolation or Frozen arrow would probably kill them faster.

An often mentioned way to kill PI's is the use of the Witchwild String bow, which fires Magic arrows at lv 20...so you get that skill for free. It also can cast Amp on attack, like e.g Atmas Ammy. Those items, as well as a Reapers toll on your merc would help remove immunities.

That said, FA is a great skill with only 10 points invested to compliment Strafe. Freeze them..then Strafe them while they can't move.

Kuko Shakaku shoots Explosive arrows and does 40-180 fire damage..a slow way to kill in hell..but until then it works..as does Demonmachine or Buriza.

[Hadriel]

Det, thanks for the advice.
That bow doesn't give you the skill for free, only lvl 20 ones, so not any higher as you could get with plus skills.
I would like some anaylsis of
Magic Arrow
Fire Arrow
Cold Arrow
I want to use one but don't know which, the latter too convert more pysical damage than magic to their respective damage types but there must be a reason for this.
I want to use one of these as a PI killer and single tough creature killer.
Any comments welcome, Thanks.

[matsimuto_toxaris]

ok here is the deal with a zon, if your gunna go with a bowazon i think you should put all your points into probly multishot,guided arrow, and maybe a lvl 15 freezing arrow. when i started with my bowazon i didnt know what the hell i was doing so yea now i know. put all your stat points in to 300-350 dex, 90-120 strength, vatality at probly 80-100, and mana leave it at the base cuz every lvl you get ur mana gets higher every 1.5 lvl. but you will need a good mana and health leech for your zon. if you want anymore info on a good bowazon email me at holy_fists12@yahoo.ca ok?

[matsimuto_toxaris]

oh and 1 more thing i could probly give you a really and i mean really good bow for maybe a soj next time im on diabloII (if i ever get it to download). so if you want any info for good bowazon tricks and tps email me at the address on my other message i left above. so yea ill give you a a good bow but i dont have any stuff on it like mana leech and stuff. so ill trade you my bow for a SOJ next time im on DII kk. well email me if you want any advice tricks and tips ok?

intermediate bowazon :winner:

[Hadriel]

oh and 1 more thing i could probly give you a really and i mean really good bow for maybe a soj next time im on diabloII (if i ever get it to download). so if you want any info for good bowazon tricks and tps email me at the address on my other message i left above. so yea ill give you a a good bow but i dont have any stuff on it like mana leech and stuff. so ill trade you my bow for a SOJ next time im on DII kk. well email me if you want any advice tricks and tips ok?

intermediate bowazon :winner:

Thanks a lot for the advice and comments matsimuto_toxaris. :-)

[Hadriel]

What about this?

1 Magic Arrow
1 Multiple Shot
1 Guided arrow
20 Strafe
20 Cold Arrow
1 Ice Arrow
20 Freezing Arrow

1 Inner Sight
1 Slow Missiles
1 Decoy
1 Valkyrie
5 critical strike
1 Dodge
6 Avoid
3 Evade
20 Penetrate
7 Peirce

(110 skill points)

I don't like the idea of half-doing skills, so 10 or 15 freezing arrow doesn't seem right to me, maxed freezing arrow and maxed synergy or 1 freezing arrow seems best to me.
Any comments welcome.

[urban savage]

i have found that magic arrow is completly pointless if you have a wws, atmas or reapers on your merc.
spending 20 pts on a rare occurance of PI is a waste imo
with 20 into strafe
20 FA
20CA
and a few into pre reqs aswel as valk to lvl 17 is a much better use of your points
just keep an un upgraded wws on switch for the amp effect an kill away with your preffered bow wasting 20 points into MA would really slow your main kill which would be frozen arrow

[EdvinMedvind]

Well I just have to say that I have a MA/Strafer and am quite happy with it. Even though my merc uses reaper's I find it quite usefull. Because the magic damage depends on the physical damage output, it is only good when you use a high damage bow like WF.

Reasons:

a) It doesn't cost any mana (it's very often not possible to leech from PI's) so you can just fire away as much as you want to
b) You don't need any arrows (handy if you run out)
c) Generally monsters have more cold resistance than magic resistance
d) PI unique monsters are cold immune from time to time but never magic immune
e) If my calculation are correct my lvl 90 bowzon does around 60-762 magic damage with might when using lvl 18 MA (remember that most monsters don't have MR)
f) I'm impatient and don't want to wait for my Merc to decrep the monsters
g) Even when the PI unique monster is decrepped it will still have at least 90% physical resistance (iirc) and MA is much faster than strafing them down
h) From time to time I run in to unique monster in Rof that is still PI after being decrepped (and cold immune).
i) IMO FA needs a lot of points in CA to give enough damage

The only bad thing I have to say about MA is that it doesn't have any area effect, but then it would probably be too powerfull.

[JoJeck]

I agree with EdvinMedvind. MA is a very good compliment to a strafer and mine clears the Pits, Ancient Tunnels and River of Flame very fast and safely using an upgraded GSA. I simply keep MA on my left mouse key and strafe on the right one and I'm set... no messing with hotkeys unless I have to cast the odd decoy, but mostly I just run around and strafe. As soon as a PI pops up he gets the MA treatment, if I get manburned by a ranged attacker just leech back the mana with the left key. Other amazon builds are fine and interesting (and I have several) but in terms of simplicity and being able to deal with anything... the MA/ Strafer is a great build.