34 Mage killer.

[NightShade]

Asn

Lvl 20 Dragon Talon
Lvl 10 ClawBlock
Lvl :4 Fade
Lvl : 1Dragon Flight.



Gear :

Dual Strength claws ( Dual + fade claws on switch, pre buff)
Warboots - Ideally with Fire/Cold res.
Angelic jewelry + A Fire res Ring. (They can be cubed for 30% or so)
Guilmes Face - Increses strength naturally, adds 35% crushing blow.
Deaths gloves
Deaths belt ( + ias/res)
4 Perfect Ruby armour

Charms : Life, what ever res you need.

The idea is to dragon flight on top of the higher level caster and start bashing their faces in with a volley of kicks. You have full res ideally and 50% chance to completely neutralize the attack. Once you're ontop of them they will either be blocking or recieving alot of crushing blows// 60-70 ish damage per kick.

If you feel the need to use a merc, this goes over even easier. With might you get around 100 pvp per kick + crushing and the fact that something else is hitting them. Assuming it's a sorc, it's energy sheild will suck up alot of damage and she won't be too casty. If it's a necro, he will probably have his bone armour absorbing a good amount of your damage, but he probably won't beat you unless you're very out leveled.


This kicker, like amost every other, is very budget. You can easily hunt Baal runs with it and go as far as you feel necissary. It's a quick way to kill characters with no or low % block who have the ability to cast spells at you. Claw block not only blocks spells but physical attacks while running too. You'd have a 25% chance to block when running, this doubles it.

While it's possible to kill a charger with it, I wouldn't recomend trying. I posted this because I got to talking about kickers last night and how annoying casters are to kill due to some having very high damage attacks.

[Unholy_VI]

Asn

Lvl 20 Dragon Talon
Lvl 10 ClawBlock
Lvl :4 Fade
Lvl : 1Dragon Flight.



Gear :

Dual Strength claws ( Dual + fade claws on switch, pre buff)
Warboots - Ideally with Fire/Cold res.
Angelic jewelry + A Fire res Ring. (They can be cubed for 30% or so)
Guilmes Face - Increses strength naturally, adds 35% crushing blow.
Deaths gloves
Deaths belt ( + ias/res)
4 Perfect Ruby armour

Charms : Life, what ever res you need.

The idea is to dragon flight on top of the higher level caster and start bashing their faces in with a volley of kicks. You have full res ideally and 50% chance to completely neutralize the attack. Once you're ontop of them they will either be blocking or recieving alot of crushing blows// 60-70 ish damage per kick.

If you feel the need to use a merc, this goes over even easier. With might you get around 100 pvp per kick + crushing and the fact that something else is hitting them. Assuming it's a sorc, it's energy sheild will suck up alot of damage and she won't be too casty. If it's a necro, he will probably have his bone armour absorbing a good amount of your damage, but he probably won't beat you unless you're very out leveled.


This kicker, like amost every other, is very budget. You can easily hunt Baal runs with it and go as far as you feel necissary. It's a quick way to kill characters with no or low % block who have the ability to cast spells at you. Claw block not only blocks spells but physical attacks while running too. You'd have a 25% chance to block when running, this doubles it.

While it's possible to kill a charger with it, I wouldn't recomend trying. I posted this because I got to talking about kickers last night and how annoying casters are to kill due to some having very high damage attacks.

If you are just going for sorcs what about hawkmail and a nozikon relic to add to your max resist vs cold and fire. Also vs cold it might be a good idea to stack a ton of it to deal with high level cold mastry. And of course hawk is CBF.

this is the setup I'm woking on for my level 60ish Magekiller. other than that pretty much what you said. The 'extra' skill points i'll have over your build im putting into high level shadowmaster (What else do you need?) and a few more in fade and claw block.

[NightShade]

Master is a good choice for boosting.


At that level I'd take a GA and use res charms over a hawk mail, and I'd be using dwarfstars + noko to deal with the fire sorcs. at 60 ish you have alot more res options.

[Ka0s047]

Thanks nightshade. Apreciate it, working on her right now.

[PhatTrumpet]

What about IK Gauntlets and Boots instead of Death's? Nice rare War Boots aren't always easy to come by, but does the 5% ias difference lose you a frame on your kick speed? It almost seems like you over-did it with the resists, as the 50% blocking should be plenty to get you in close with DF, and at that point the match is over.

[NightShade]

I built her as my anti-blizzard/fire ball sorc . The stacked res is because I hunted in NM games.

[Mr.Bogohossian]

i have a 20 frw 40 cold resis warboot thats pretty effective against lvl 40 ish orb sorcs. But heh... You will never see a lvl 40 ish sorc dueler. By never i mean 99% you wont.

[NightShade]

Who said I was dueling with her^^.


Pking right off the WP, makes sure they dont cover their tracks

[Ka0s047]

Does it matter what claw i put the strength into??Or should i just find one with low reqs?
Also how would upped goblin toes be??Would these be a good thing to use?
Should i socket the helm with a p ruby??Or would more ias help?(not sure how ias works with kicks...or the fps with more ias)

[NightShade]

Blade talons

Gob toes don't do enough damage, Our target is a mage, they tend to have low life comparitively.


I wanna do some testing to see if crushing blow is directed straight against their mana pool % when E sheild is on

[Relativity]

Any success so far with this build NS?

-Relativity

[NightShade]

I never really lost vs a caster unless I got careless


Orb sorcs were my greatest enemy. I didn't get many ears, but man o man did she kick some ***. I was felled by the most newb tactic ever. She cast a meteor at her feet.

[SkaMan]

I wanna do some testing to see if crushing blow is directed straight against their mana pool % when E sheild is on

I'm fairly sure that CB will ignore a sorces ES. With my sorc (50%ish ES and 17 in Telekenesis), I find that when hit by the maulers in durance 2, and I see the crushing animation on myself, my life will go down considerably, but my mana pool will remain steady.

I'm assuming that the maulers are actually hitting me with a crushing blow though... If not, my theory is sunk :P

~Ska

[5zigen]

why 2 strength claws? just for the +25 str? it seems like youd be better off with a high resistance shield in the second hand.

the cb from the off hand claw doesnt get applied so... i dont get it.

[NightShade]

You can't block anything with a sheild from a sorc. Strength because str boosts your damage which is considerably lacking on most kickers.

[5zigen]

yeah those are good points, but you also know that you cant block while running w/ dual claw right? in fact, you cant block walking either. i imagine you would just be dragon flighting tho.

you can test that and look up some information about it. its been discussed in the assassin forums some.

i still think youd be better off with a high res sheild, like a diamonded the ward (or 2 diamonded mosers). the ward is nice because of the +10 str as well, and as you know having over-res never hurts vs cold sorcs. that way you could save your inv space for things like str charms to boost dmg, (3 five larges and youve made up for the str lost from strength wpn).

anyhow, its just another perspective on it.

[NightShade]

Strange, I blocked on the run before. Preahps it was just something I missed. Chances are you'd be running very little anyway.

[Ka0s047]

Im pretty sure you can block on the run with dual claw blocking. My trap sin does it all the time.

[Baranor]

The one reason that dual claw block is so great is that you CAN and DO block at the displayed rate while standing still, running and walking. If not claw blocking would be total bull.

[5zigen]

yeah that was the commonly held notion. Seriously, go check it out for yourself. you cant even block while walking. one of tha assassin forum guys did various tests with different block rates ect.

I didnt belive it at first either, then i took out one of my many dual claw sins, w/ over 50% block rate, and walked around while some various ranged things shot me. didnt block any of them. then i tried it with meele, and occasionally i would block something, but i decided it was because of the games collision detection, and it considered me stopped.

seriously though, try it.

thus as it is, claw blocking still works for magical attacks, just not while your moving.

[Ka0s047]

Can some one post the mods of guilmes face, i cant find it on dii. Also i just spent 1.5 mil and the best pair of war boots were 10 fr/w and 10 fhr...So wich one would be a better pair to use.

[NightShade]

Defense: 217 (Base Defense: 85-98)
Required Level: 34
Required Strength: 115
Durability: 40
+120% Enhanced Defense
+30% Faster Hit Recovery
15% Deadly Strike
35% Chance of Crushing Blow
+15 To Strength

[Ka0s047]

Thanks i just got one. Now all i need to do is get the last 2 socket blade talons, and throw strength into it and im ready to go. I may have to skimp out on a good pair of war boots, as i cant seem to gamble for a pair...Not a single rare one yet.

[Cleglaw_Himself]

Thanks i just got one. Now all i need to do is get the last 2 socket blade talons, and throw strength into it and im ready to go. I may have to skimp out on a good pair of war boots, as i cant seem to gamble for a pair...Not a single rare one yet.
Use your imbue quest! I must have about 50 spare imbues.
I got sick of gambling crappy war boots. So I found a normal pair, and Charsi was kind enough to put the finishing touches on them.

[Ka0s047]

Never thought about that, thanks for the good idea. Did you use nightmare imbue, or normal?
I have a question, were is a good place to find a normal pair of war boots?

[Ka0s047]

what about ik belt boots and gloves for this??Wouldnt that add a lot of strenght and dmg, and belt give good resists.

[Ka0s047]

Ok, ive got everything on. Im doing about 450 pvm max...Is that right? If so should i throw the remaining like 90 some stat points into health, or should i put them int dex/strength?

[Cleglaw_Himself]

Never thought about that, thanks for the good idea. Did you use nightmare imbue, or normal?
I have a question, were is a good place to find a normal pair of war boots?Oh yeah, forgot this was an over 25 asn. Use IK boots of course!

btw, I used my normal imbue - didn't want Charsi increasing the lvl req.

I suppose doing a few nm shenk runs with could net some normal war boots.

Just a quick thing about lvl 34 asn's - careful who you fight - I fought one with a lvl 27 zealer/charger. Don't think she was that good but it was a kicksin with a horned helm. She didn't last too many duels - chicken saved her 3 out of 3.

[Ka0s047]

Ok well i have 86x life, and 45 pvp dmg. Im off to terrorize some baal runs. Hope this life is good enough.(Also i ended up using ik...My resists are good enough in norm anyways.)
Wow it is very hard to get anyone to stay...And no one will even dual me...Not even 50+ chars...:\

[Unholy_VI]

I have a question on Open Wounds.

I read somewhere in the assassin fourm that OW is really awesome in PVP is this also true in HC or only in SC where they cant pot so they just have to sit there and bleed down to 1 hp.

Also there is a guide for what they call a mageslayer but its very softcoreish. For instance the guy uses burst of speed over fade his reasoning being 'you can get max resists without it' and thinks stacking absorb is BM.

well duh! the point is to stack the resists and if you can the absorb homer. sheesh. some sorc is tossing blizzards at him and hes got 75% cr thinking 'oh yeah. I'm good.' Like he never heard of cold mastrey.

Still there are some interesting ideas in there I might try in my anti-sorc kicker.

Moslty wondering what experienced pkers think of OW in 1.10. worth to get it or not?

:scratch:

[NightShade]

It's alot like high poison. Makes 'em pot like mad and waste their pots.


Mainly a softy thing, but still useful.