2 + 2 = 5

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Two and two can make five.

1984.

Edit: I just had to write this wonderful quote somwhere. Luckily there's an Off-Topic Forum here. The book 1984 is great.

[WebDragon]

Two Minutes Read Without The Hate - George Orwell

[Jigga-Scrooge]

explain how two and two can make five.

[masterazn]

So what...?

[WebDragon]

explain how two and two can make five.

Easy, just change the laws of mathematics.


Note: Is it just me or are the forum servers acting up?

[bigD72]

explain how two and two can make five.
Its not that math makes 2 + 2 =t 5, its that the government makes 2 + 2 =5.

[WebDragon]

Edit: I just had to write this wonderful quote somwhere. Luckily there's an Off-Topic Forum here. The book 1984 is great.

Alright folks, false alarm, move along now, nothing to see here.. move along.

[Savage]

Great book, but it's more the fact that one completely believes that 2 + 2 makes 5 that makes it "true".

[tarnok]

2+2=5 for sufficiently large values of 2.

[Draconis]

You just need to reassign the '+' sign to represent a mathematical operation that takes the sum of the two numbers and adds one.

[WebDragon]

2 + 2 = 5

2 + 2 = 4
4 = 4 x 1
(kicks the x so it falls to the side)
4= 4 + 1
2 + 2 = 4 + 1
2 + 2 = 5

QED

[Nword]

2 + 2 = 5

2 + 2 = 4
4 = 4 x 1
(kicks the x so it falls to the side)
4= 4 + 1
2 + 2 = 4 + 1
2 + 2 = 5

QED

*turns the alarm back on*

[th5418]

Actually 100=.0000000000001 too. Math is only a concept. We can bend it anyway we want.

[Rius666]

umm ya are we still talkin about the book 1984 cuz if we are i also enjoyed that book. Best part of the book is that last paragraph and the final 4 words of the novel. Go read it

[iq144]

Actually 100=.0000000000001 too. Math is only a concept. We can bend it anyway we want.

Such as .99999999999 = 1.

[LuckyDwarf]

1984 is my favorite book of all time. I am constantly alluding to it in papers and the like. It's a real masterpiece because the events in the book depict what is happening, and will happen, very clearly. Orwell is a great writer.

Lucky

[lala]

i just read it for school and i must say it was the best book i have read despite the fact that i hate reading.
Theres 3 more concepts:
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorence is Strength
God is Power

We had a class discussion and im beginning to think of US as the way they are in the book. In the book, Oceania (1/3 of the world, where the main char lives) is at constant war with the other 2 major powers. This need for war is to keep surplus supplies down and promotion of government. Also, war never happens on their own land and even though they have plenty of weapons, they keep stockpiling them.

This is much like the US, WW1, WW2, Cold war, Viet war, gulf war, Afghanistan, and iraq. they all seem to be one after another. War was never fought in the US, except when there were surprise attacks like pearl harbor and trade towers. Did you know they have enough nukes to nuke the world couple hundred times but they are still producing them?

thoughts?

[SuggestiveName]

War was never fought in the US, except when there were surprise attacks like pearl harbor and trade towers.Thank god the revolutionary war, war of 1812 and civil war weren't fought in the US.

[lala]

Thank god the revolutionary war, war of 1812 and civil war weren't fought in the US.
im talking about when the borders were settled and some countries can be recognized as powers

[bigD72]

im talking about when the borders were settled and some countries can be recognized as powers
How do we know the borders are settled now? Your wrong, just admit it. And countries (read: Britain) were recognized as powers.

[Draconis]

This is much like the US, WW1, WW2, Cold war, Viet war, gulf war, Afghanistan, and iraq. they all seem to be one after another.

Hint, they seem to be one after the other because you wrote them down in a list.

[lala]

How do we know the borders are settled now? Your wrong, just admit it. And countries (read: Britain) were recognized as powers.
Yes I'm wrong, I admit it. What's with the offensive tone?

[ash2ash]

Easy,

Proof:

5 = 3 + 2

let y = x;

y + y = y + x

2y = y + x

2y - 2x = y + x - 2x

2(y - x) = y - x

2 = 1

------------------------------------------------

since 2=1,

3 + 2 = 3 + 1

But since 3+2 = 5 and 3 + 1 = 2 + 2

5 = 2 + 2

QED :D

[lala]

it's wrong in the first line already, if y=y and x=x, how can y=x?
if you start at y=x, might as well start at 5=4

[ash2ash]

it's wrong in the first line already, if y=y and x=x, how can y=x?
if you start at y=x, might as well start at 5=4

I'm just saying that for any number which y equals, x equals that number as well - It's a general case.

There's a trick to that proof, but it's not in the first line...

[WebDragon]

I'm just saying that for any number which y equals, x equals that number as well - It's a general case.

There's a trick to that proof, but it's not in the first line...

Well yeah.. in this case the last 2 lines is where the trick is, I think...

If we take it in a different direction from there, if we say..



2(y - x) = y - x

&

y=x

Then we can subsitute the y for an x, since they're equal, so..

2(y - x) = y - x
2(x - x) = x - x
2( 0 ) = 0

2 * 0 = 1 * 0

2 != 1

QED
:thanks:

[lala]

we have a winner!

[Stevinator]

Easy,

Proof:

5 = 3 + 2

let y = x;

y + y = y + x

2y = y + x

2y - 2x = y + x - 2x

2(y - x) = y - x

2 = 1

------------------------------------------------

since 2=1,

3 + 2 = 3 + 1

But since 3+2 = 5 and 3 + 1 = 2 + 2

5 = 2 + 2

QED :D

one line equals zero which is a big no no.
2y - 2x = y + x - 2x

bad you.

the last line of 1984 was I love big brother (i think).

1984 was a great book. I recommend it to everyone. the concepts discussed abve can all be neatly narrowed down to "doublethink". it's the act of functioning while knowing one thing to be true, while also believing something else that is completely contradictory. at the same time.

much of what is thought and known in 1984 is a lie, purpotrated by the ministry of truth. however, the citizens that get that everything is a lie, also believe the lies, while also bleiving that in actual fact. the concept here is that a completely totalitarian government would no only control a person's actions, but their thoughts as well. it's a frightening thought. Equally frightening though is the world described in "A brave new world", by aldus huxley in his world, instead of the governemnt watching oyu and making sure you did what you were supposed to, they instead changed the culture to complete moral relativism. nothing was concretely wrong or right. if anyone got rowdy they were drugged with soma, which made them feel happy agian and they would forget what made them upset.

these books offer two frightening poles of extremism. one we go all the way to the left, and the other we go all the way to the right. the end result is the same. totalitarianism.

there's a lesson here somewhere...but I'll let you decide what it is.

read both books, they come highly recommended by more than just stevinator. :)

edit:all my base are belong to webdragon

i think I've said that before

[WebDragon]

edit:all my base are belong to webdragon

i think I've said that before

:worship: We're not worthy! We're not worthy! :worship:

[masterazn]

Math is only a concept. We can bend it anyway we want.

If only that was true....argh, math exam tomorrow..

[iq144]

Equally frightening though is the world described in "A brave new world", by aldus huxley in his world, instead of the governemnt watching oyu and making sure you did what you were supposed to, they instead changed the culture to complete moral relativism. nothing was concretely wrong or right. if anyone got rowdy they were drugged with soma, which made them feel happy agian and they would forget what made them upset.


I found them both equally frightening, both scary and both painful. The ending of A Brave New World, where

SPOILER! SPOILER!

SPOILER! SPOILER!

the poor guy isolates himself and is STILL tracked down and has the culture (which is by all means 'accepting' and 'loving' *cough*) forced on him with spray Soma. Then he hangs himself. Awesome.

And no one got the .99999=1 joke. I'm ashamed, deeply, deeply ashamed of you guys.

[Corneo]

My professor actually made use find .999 in fractional form using geometric series. I kept getting my answer as 1. Then I remember the stupid .999=1

[Mr.Bogohossian]

damn it when i was in grade 10 and read that book, all i cared was how that guy was screwing that younger girl. anyways gotta re-read.

[bradley_turner]

well, now im gonna have to go check out those books and read them, thanks alot a-holes >.< heh, j/k if they are as good as you guys have made them sound im sure ill be thanking you in like 2 days :D

[SuggestiveName]

And no one got the .99999=1 joke. I'm ashamed, deeply, deeply ashamed of you guys.That's not so much a joke as it is how you write the number one as a never-ending decimal expansion. This is useful in certain circumstances using real numbers.