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Gyro
31-05-2004, 06:51
It's just there to tease me I suppose--or does anyone have a better explanation about why the Arreat Summit posts that the fictitious ilvl of 110 will permit the impossible life range of 46-50 on "of vita" grand charms?

From the summit: Vita +36-50 Life Large Charms(77)[36-40](91)[41-45](110)[46-50]

Where oh where can I find this magnificent mlvl 110 beast? Maybe it's a clue about a super monster to come in the "next" patch? DC and Deckhard Cain's illicit spawn perhaps?

kemprol
31-05-2004, 07:00
Check out this:
General Magic Prefixes (http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/magic/pre.shtml)

section: Item Level Requirements

0.75 * 110 = 82.5 ~ 83

Gyro
31-05-2004, 07:08
0.75 * 110 = 82.5 ~ 83

Which teases me all the more since I could actually use the charm by level 83--if it existed, which it can't because it would still require a level 110 monster or chest to drop, right?

brianc84
31-05-2004, 08:09
AFAICT, the Arreat Summit lists the correct affix levels for each affix. However, they don't supply the correct affix level formula.

There are no monsters that can drop an alvl 110 Grand Charm. The affix level calculations cap affix level at 99.

Jerkazoid
31-05-2004, 08:55
0.75 * 110 = 82.5 ~ 83

75% is not the convention used (anymore). its just a coincidance that most affixs have the req lvl = to 75%alvl

"Pestilent +175 Poison Damage Over 6 Seconds Small Charms(alvl 88)"

alvl 88 *.75 = 66

Req lvl for a "pestilent" sc is 80
not lvl 66 (88*.75)

find a "crimson" jewel.. (+5-8 min dmg).. its alvl 38 and has a req lvl of 30 ...go figure... 38*.75 = 28.5

Gyro
31-05-2004, 09:07
All good, but my (presumably unanswerable) question is what possible rationale was there for blizz to not only create an affix with an unattainable ilvl, but also post it for all to wonder about?

I guess it's not surprising that "stat forum" members would be reluctant to engage in idle speculation, but doesn't it make you curious?

Jacknife
31-05-2004, 11:21
Why have that damned chat room gem?

Most likely the Arreat Summit authors were careless.

Gyro
31-05-2004, 11:32
Why have that damned chat room gem?

Most likely the Arreat Summit authors were careless.

Yay--someone has a theory! :clap:

Personally, I give it a 15% chance of credibility--or about as good as most other theories I can think of.

Oh, and that chat room gem--perfectly deliberate, as Bill Roper and others have repeatedly attested.

StarL
31-05-2004, 12:18
Dclone is 110...

Gyro
31-05-2004, 12:26
Dclone is 110...

Nice theory, but I believe he's actualy 99.

Hakai_no_Tenshi
31-05-2004, 14:12
DClone is 110 but the game caps the ilvl of the item at 99 when you save. In theory, if he could drop a magical charm, then you could roll the mods *before* you exited the game.

--T

Jacknife
01-06-2004, 03:14
I'd be saving up a LOT of gems for that moment.

belth
01-06-2004, 10:34
I'd be saving up a LOT of gems for that moment.

You'll have every account on B.Net full of pgems before you'll get a ilvl110 GC :p

Gyro
01-06-2004, 10:40
You'll have every account on B.Net full of pgems before you'll get a ilvl110 GC :p

Especially since (contrary to initial rumors), the big bad one never drops anything but little brown charms.

Those initial rumors of other kinds of drops did turn out to be hogwash, right? Annis are all I've found in the 50 times I've slain him.

Herald of Doom
01-06-2004, 11:00
Especially since (contrary to initial rumors), the big bad one never drops anything but little brown charms.

Those initial rumors of other kinds of drops did turn out to be hogwash, right? Annis are all I've found in the 50 times I've slain him.

Yep. He only drops anni's, all this "DC can drop it" is pure theory. IF he could drop a GC, THEN he would be able to drop the highest vita affix.

HoD

Jacknife
01-06-2004, 18:02
Well you could have fun and pretend that charm Baal dropped was ilvl110.

bandit990
02-06-2004, 06:15
just wondering but what happend is the dclone appears twice in the same game? theoreticly he couldnt drop the same unique twice right?

Gyro
02-06-2004, 06:27
just wondering but what happend is the dclone appears twice in the same game? theoreticly he couldnt drop the same unique twice right?

Another interesting but impossible hypothetical since DC will not show up twice in the same game--or at least he failed to appear a second time when this was tested by some SOJ selling friends.

A related piece of trivia: Diablo Original will also not appear in a game if his "clone" has spawned. So the only way to get two Diablos in a game is to spawn the original prior to spawning the clone.