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I was just wondering what the best possible rune you can get from running countess. I have seen sol as the best so far (5 outta 25 runs).
Any feedback would be appreciated
-naf
Joel9-Co
30-05-2004, 08:56
I believe it is Vex.
darkonesluck
30-05-2004, 19:51
Ist is the highest rune that hell countess can drop out of her "special rune drop". She can drop up to Lo but that is very rare because it is just a normal drop.
Ist is the highest rune that hell countess can drop out of her "special rune drop". She can drop up to Lo but that is very rare because it is just a normal drop.
So a non quest countess drop can drop up to lo?
In Hell, yes (that's Lo, not Io).
Quest has nothing to do with it. She drops the same whether it is quest or not. The only difference with the quest is that her chest opens up then.
Max Drops:
Vex - Her Auto-Rune Drop
Lo - Her Normal Monster Drop
minions can drop ber I believe, according to a mate of mine that found 1
InsaneFarmer
01-06-2004, 22:06
In fact, the hell countess can drop any rune. Yes she can, and i'll explain why. In order to drop the highest rune Zod, the mlvl (monster level) needs to be at least 82, in the catacombs act 1 level 5 hell, regular monsters spawn at level 79, uniques, champions and super uniques and their minions always spawn +3 level over the regular monsters in the area. so the countess spawns with +3 level, which makes her mlvl 82 so she can drop the Zod rune or any other rune for that matter. The reason nobody may ever have gotten a Zod off of her is quit simple. How many monsters of level 82+ have you killed playing Diablo 2, probably a lot, and even killing hundreds or thousands won't guarantee you a Zod rune. Nobody I know does more than maybe 30 countess runs / day, the odds are quite slim of ever getting a Zod drop is unlikely, because she's 1 monster, as opposed to killing hundreds who wont' even drop you a Zod. you'd have to do thousands of runs on her to get one. Good luck
"The gods give two sorrows for every blessing"
Homer
toader, Ist is the highest rune that can drop from her special rune drop.
InsaneFarmer, the Countess has her own special TC. Therefore she does not upgrade TCs like regular monsters do. Her TC can only drop up to Lo, so that's all she can drop.
A random boss monster on the Countess' level would be mlvl 82 and would therefore be able to drop Zod, for the reasons you describe, but the Countess is not random.
In Hell, yes (that's Lo, not Io).
Quest has nothing to do with it. She drops the same whether it is quest or not. The only difference with the quest is that her chest opens up then.
Yes, i know i just used the small L.
Thrugg ---- Thats what i kinda thought too....that she had a special TC, thus the reason i asked.I knew that there was a cap just didnt know what it was
InsaneFarmer---Im not going for zod runes....im going for lesser runes to make runes for runewords. Wouldnt complain if a high rune came up though.
Thanks for the input all!!!
-naf
Call me stupid, but you keep referring to a "special rune drop"
What does that mean?
Call me stupid, but you keep referring to a "special rune drop"
What does that mean?
The first time you kill her in the difficulty
Another thing is how many runes she drops.
More players means more item drops, so if there are more players than 1 in the game, there are also more rune drop chances? (I talk about quantity, not about quality).
Tin.
Call me stupid, but you keep referring to a "special rune drop"
What does that mean?
"special rune drop" just means she will have much better chances of dropping those runes than other monsters..
-so up to ist is part of these, but the rest up to Lo she will have about the same chances of dropping as other monsters..
Another thing is how many runes she drops.
More players means more item drops, so if there are more players than 1 in the game, there are also more rune drop chances? (I talk about quantity, not about quality).
Tin.
more players = more items, and therefore less chances of runes from countess
sangfagel
02-06-2004, 14:12
The first time you kill her in the difficulty
Not correct. As Thrugg wrote already, she drops the same first time or 100th time - it does not matter.
Countess drops from: Countess Rune (H) - 3 drops possible and from Countess Item (H) - 5 drops possible.
The first picks has best chances for rune drops up to Ist (it must ne any rune anyway). Dropps higher than Ist are not possible.
The second picks are items but becouse runes are items as well they can be dropped here. Chances for rune drops are aproximately as low as in case of other monsters but if you extremally lucky she can drop up to Lo from this picks.
Superhal
02-06-2004, 22:13
to try and make it clearer:
the countess has a guaranteed chance to drop 1 rune. as you know, she can drop more than one rune. the other runes are coming from her normal drop when she is killed, just like any other monster.
the guaranteed drop is up to vex. the normal drop is up to Lo.
Superhal... that's not how it works. It isn't easy to make clearer because it is a complicated drop.
She gets an Item drop and a Rune drop.
The Item drop is up to 5 items, which can be anything, including runes.
The Rune drop is up to 3 items, which can only be runes.
The Item drop can be up to Lo, but with very small chances.
The Rune drop can be up to Ist, with better chances.
No monster can drop more than 6 items. This means that if the Countess drops 5 items in her Item drop, she can only drop at most one rune in her Rune drop. If she only drops 3 or less items in her Item drop, she could drop up to 3 runes in her Rune drop. If you run the numbers, you are actually better off running her in a solo game than in a full game. You get a lot less non-rune items, but a lot more runes.
It is entirely possible for her to drop no runes at all in a 1 or 2 player game. In a 3+ player game, she will always drop 5 items (which may include runes) from her Item drop, and always one rune from her Rune drop.
In 1.09 she could drop up to Vex, but in 1.09 her drop was quite different (4 items every time, each of which had a 1/4 chance of being a rune).
Well when you put it that way.....it makes sence. I only do it solo.....i noticed the same thing in larger games.
Thanks for making things clearer! :)
-Naf
Gooch666
10-06-2004, 13:34
I hate to revive an ancient thread, but I had a question about this also, and if i made a new thread i would only be told to search :)
Can she drop any decent runes on her rune drop in nm? This was a very informative thread, im learning alot reading these forums :)
Can she drop any decent runes on her rune drop in nm? This was a very informative thread, im learning alot reading these forums :)
Norm : up to Ral
NM : up to Ko (above IO is rare and not part of "special rune drop")
gauntscorpion1
14-06-2004, 02:56
im doing a test to see what and how many runes drop in 100 hell runs ill post the results when im done best ive gotten so for is an io out of 15 runs
i know this has been done befor and what not but i want to see for myself so ill post sooon
Aron Figaro
14-06-2004, 05:31
Io is the top of her rune drop in NM? Cool, I'm lucky to have nabbed one the other day!
soulmanz
22-06-2004, 04:17
hey, i just got an io too!
of course, i needed a sol to upgrade weapon, took me like 40 runs.
ArchDemonHunter
22-06-2004, 04:55
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The Item drop is up to 5 items, which can be anything, including runes.
The Rune drop is up to 3 items, which can only be runes.
......
Which one is correct?:
A.
1) Item drop 0-5 items
2) Rune drop 0-3 items
B.
1) Item drop 1-5 items
2) Rune drop 1-3 items
If A is correct, what about Quest kill? Is it possible Quest kill drop nothing?
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No monster can drop more than 6 items. This means that if the Countess drops 5 items in her Item drop, she can only drop at most one rune in her Rune drop.
......
Do you mean that Item drop happens before Rune drop?
Fishmonger
22-06-2004, 05:42
quest kill has nothing to do with it. unlike andariel, baal, etc., quest kill of countess yields absolutely nothing more or nothing less, just opens up her chest o gold. :thumbsup:
ArchDemonHunter - the way drops work is that each time a monster drops an item, there is a chance of a "no-drop". This uses up a drop but you get nothing. Each drop TC has its own no-drop chance, and it is reduced if there are more players in the game.
In a solo game, the Countess' Item TC has a 19/67 chance of a no-drop, or about 28%. This means you can get 0 items, but there is only a (28%)^5 = 0.18%, or about 1/550 chance of that. "Usually" you expect 3 or 4 items.
The Rune TC has a 1/4 no-drop chance in a solo game. So there is a (1/4)^3 = 1/64 chance of no runes from that, even if all 3 drops are still open.
There is a small chance of nothing dropping at all, but it is very small (1/35000). Still, she is run so many times it has probably happened to someone.
The Item drop happens before the Rune drop, yes. You are right, I forgot to actually state that anywhere :doh:
ArchDemonHunter
23-06-2004, 05:00
Thank you Thrugg so much. You are so kind.
Astrocreeper
24-06-2004, 06:21
According to Atma's drop calculator on Hell Countess with 0 MF and players 3:
1 in 832 chance of dropping Ist.
Next rune up, Gul, is 1 in 89,259.
Vex is 1 in 133,889.
For some reason the countess is not listed for Zod in the calculator. Best odds are Hephasto, at 1 in 2,150,772.
Is Atma's calculator considered accurate?
It's probably the most accurate you'll find, without asking a human directly.
The Countess can't drop Zod. That is the "some reason" :)
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