Where to find VLLD Jewels?

[Lunfear]

Where would be the best place to hunt for level 9 jewels?
Is there a special location where the maximum level requirement on the things dropped is 9 or something? Please enlighten me ;)
For now I've been doing normal cows with a FOHer (Holy shock).

[Thrugg]

All jewel affixes that are rlvl 9 or below, are alvl 12 or below (and you want the alvl 12 one, it is "of Wrath"). For jewels it is simply alvl = ilvl, so you want to search for jewels ideally of ilvl 12. Any less, and you won't be able to get "of Wrath", which you obviously will want. Much higher, and you will risk getting affixes that can't be used by clvl 9 chars.

Normal Andariel is the ideal place, I would suspect. She is mlvl 12. Some of the other later act 1 special monsters are also of the right level, but don't drop jewels as often as Andy will. Regular monsters in the last level of the catacombs, and on Andariel's level, can also drop the right ilvl jewels. The Sewers in act 2 are ilvl 13, not too bad, but don't go too much further.

Also, you mayalready know this, but jewels keep their ilvl when you re-roll them, so any jewel found at that right level should be re-rolled until it gives you what you want.

[Lunfear]

Is it the same for Charms?

[Thrugg]

It is the same for grand charms.

For large charms, you want to look a little higher, around mlvl 20. Boss monsters in the middle part of act 2, or regular monsters up to the early part of act 3.

Small charms are a bit different. All small charms can have all the affixes you want, plus some that are too high. So any small charm in act 1, 2 or 3 is just as useful, but you may have to re-roll some.

[Lunfear]

Thanks Thrugg :) You have been most helpful

[Lunfear]

Another thing. I can't reroll Rare Rings/Jewels/Amulets can I? If so what's the recipe for it?

On Arreat Summit it states that yellow items cannot be rerolled with the 3 PGems formulae

[Thrugg]

Rares can be rerolled with 6 (six) PSkulls. Whether this is a good idea or not probably depends on how many PSkulls you have access to. Skulls are twice as rare as other gems so this is effectively 4 times as expensive a recipe.

There is another catch too. The 6 PSkull recipe does not preserve the item level. In fact the new item level is
new ilvl = [old ilvl * 0.4] + [char level * 0.4]

For example, if you reroll an ilvl 50 rare with a level 30 char, the new rare will be ilvl
[50 * 0.4] + [30 * 0.4] = 20 + 12 = 32.

In general if you keep rerolling the same rare with the same character, its ilvl will stabilise at around clvl * (2/3), no matter where it starts.

This is bad news if you want to re-roll the highest mods, like Cruel and Master's, but it is not bad if you are trying to re-roll low-level mods as you are. Ideally you should use a char which is level a little over 1.5 times the level you want your rare to be. You are looking for req level 9 mods, those will be generated around ilvl 12/13, so you should re-roll them with a clvl 20 character. Of course, there is a lot more luck involved in re-rolling good rares, but in the end for LLD the best rares are better than the best magicals.

[Superhal]

there was some speculation last year about alternating between 6 pskulls + rare (to lower ilvl) and 2pskulls + soj (which raises ilvl) to make rare lld jewels. probably too expensive on ladder to do.

[Jacknife]

You can reroll diadems with a lvl 89 char and get good results for a long time due to the inherent magic level bonus of diadems.

[Thrugg]

In fact you can reroll diadems indefinitely. Even an ilvl 1 diadem can spawn all mods.

All items have a value (usually called qlvl) that indicates how "high level" an item it is. For example, Short Swords are qlvl 1, Colossus Blades are qlvl 85. If the item level of an item is less than its qlvl, the game uses its qlvl instead when it works out which mods it can spawn.

This means for example a Colossus Blade will always spawn mods as if it was at least ilvl 85, even if you re-roll it a thousand times. Diadems are qlvl 85 too, so they also are always treated as though they are at least ilvl 85 - and then they have the bonus you mention of +18, which puts them over the top to 103, so they can have all mods. You could reroll it with a level 1 char if you like.

[Jerkazoid]

For large charms, around mlvl 20.
any small charm in act 1, 2 or 3 is just as useful, but you may have to re-roll some.
and this is why i suugest all ur VLLD needs be done in Canyon of magi + tomb runs. lots of monsters unique and champs too, lots of drops, and even those chests, urns, racks,,

and there nothing wrong with finding an occasional cool lvl 10-14 Vlld item as well :)

make a normal only lvl 40 sorc with lots of mana teleport and FCR.. clear out places ASAP after joining large games on the list. (5 or more)