Why can't barbs and act 4 just get along?

[Nomad_1234]

i was just wondering, barbs seem to be the most ouber chars out but act 4 makes them useless for rushing because of iron maiden. does anyone know something that could help me out to battle against the iron maiden skill.

[memememe173]

Beserk :thumbsup:

[Two_Rivers]

The best way for barbs to deal with iron maiden is not to get iron maidened in the first place.:scratch: However if you wanna be able to rush...
In areas where you can be iron maidened grab a good shield (make sure you have 75% chance to block) and go bezerk (use the skill).

:idea: or build a throw barb. Haven't tried that wonder how it works?

[World Breaker]

leap attack also works but barbs are just not quick enough rushers cos of this act even with berserk ur not gonna be killing very fast at all. And when surrounded you may die if you use berserk (hell difficulty). I just ignore this act altogether its beaten me compeltely ive had too many bad moments once i even turned the mains off when i saw my 'invincible baba' go down in 1 hit while trying to rush mates, the lols @ me were embarassing, i was a white bald joke.
EDIT: also u say use berserk but on normal and nightmare difficulty its just too tempting to ww through a crowd and get the job done 10*times quicker. U think to urself it wont happen to me this time but then it does bam iron maiden , man down.

[Lunatic]

leap attack also works but barbs are just not quick enough rushers cos of this act even with berserk ur not gonna be killing very fast at all. And when surrounded you may die if you use berserk (hell difficulty). I just ignore this act altogether its beaten me compeltely ive had too many bad moments once i even turned the mains off when i saw my 'invincible baba' go down in 1 hit while trying to rush mates, the lols @ me were embarassing, i was a white bald joke.
EDIT: also u say use berserk but on normal and nightmare difficulty its just too tempting to ww through a crowd and get the job done 10*times quicker. U think to urself it wont happen to me this time but then it does bam iron maiden , man down.
Leap attack isn't considered a ranged attack anymore. IM + leap attack = dead barb.

[LeTHaL_BaNaNa]

uuuuh, why not bang through chaos sanc and make a lot of tp's and if you die... bad luck, get body and go on :)

[GenXCub]

Doesn't really help those of us who play hardcore :)

[Fire_Dragon]

barbs can rush act4 fast as any other class... Heres how I do it. Tele to first seal, zerk the unique storm caster (then open the other seal near it). Then tele to 3rd seal, open, zerk Lord De Seis. Then tele to 4th seal, open it, then 5th seal and zerk Ventar. Using this method ur only killing 3 monsters... all the others disappear when those 3 r dead and all 5 seals r open. For a godly barb this is np. Then u can just blow through diablo... end of story.

[GenXCub]

Have you tried this with a lower level barb, perhaps using spellsteel to teleport instead of an enigma, or high level ammy?

[memememe173]

barbs can rush act4 fast as any other class... Heres how I do it. Tele to first seal, zerk the unique storm caster (then open the other seal near it). Then tele to 3rd seal, open, zerk Lord De Seis. Then tele to 4th seal, open it, then 5th seal and zerk Ventar. Using this method ur only killing 3 monsters... all the others disappear when those 3 r dead and all 5 seals r open. For a godly barb this is np. Then u can just blow through diablo... end of story.for anything less then the best (hehe, I'm a poet and I didn't know it :D) that's near suicide though

use of War Cry can help out the less well equipped

[Superhal]

strat 1: leap attack directly to the seals. do the count last. lure all ob fighters to you, then leap attack over them and kill any OK's (if im'd, leap next to them, switch to zerk, and kill them.) once all ok's are dead, open a portal, heal, and return to finish off the rest.

strat 2: try and fight ok's 2 at a time. the 2nd one will wipe the curse from the first one, so if you are im'd, you have a chance of it being wiped by the 2nd. will also work with more than 2.

strat 3: heal when im'd, return. least effective.

[Nomad_1234]

well, im thankfull for all the input. im almost sure im becomming and sword mastery barb, and with that, i will most likely just avoid rushing since alot of u guys are suggesting some pretty risky strategies. im no wimp but just like all other hard working hc players, it just isnt worth having a lvl 90 barb die in hell because of himself.

[mstrnicegui]

Just existing in chaos sanctuary as a barbarian is pretty risky. Rushing people is even more risky, especially for hc. I've rushed friends through chaos sanct in sc with my conc barb many a time and my avg death rate is maybe once every 4 or 5 games (all im) and it's usually when I get sloppy to hurry it all up.

As Fire_dragon said, if you can get enigma or something with a decent # of teleport charges (naj's staff is cheap with 75 charges), you can rush act 4 with relative ease and safety. My conc barb has zero trouble in chaos sanct when using zerk if it's for less than 30 seconds.

All said, a barb is not the best class to rush with in hc.