View Full Version : which skill is better
08richman08
17-05-2004, 20:08
is holy shock, freeze, or fire the best things to use.
ivan_elverlund
17-05-2004, 21:33
I would think shock>freeze>fire - because Cresent moon (or a 5-socket cadeceus with +3 holy shock with runeword beast, but good luck finding one, they are more rare then the ber rune) and griffons Eye is very good for shock - but i have never tried a tesladin. Maybe allso use medusas gaze for lower resist. But i have tried a freezelot and that work very well, maybe not as much damage as shock, but you get the nice slow target.
I used beast cadeceus (+2 conversion)/ Hoz (um) / Skullders (PT) / Shako (74%MF) / Nosferatus belt / Wartraveller / Highlords Wrath / Ravenfrost / dualleech ring (3% ML is good enough for zealot builds) - and i used a might merc for more physical damage, but maybe i would go for a blessed aim today. 20 holy freeze / 20 cold resist / 20 sacrifice / 20 zeal and rest in Holy shield. That was good enough for me to make solo baal runs - only problems i had was PI+cold immune, but switch to vegeance and that will do. And for god sake if you gonna use beast use it an a cadeceus and not a zerker, unless you wanna towntravel every 3-5 minuttes.
I have long been wanting to try a Firelot (or whatever) - maybe with self repairing eth. demon limb(222-333 fire damage) or djinn slayer(250-500 fire damage)+dragonscale(211-371 fire damage)?! Or maybe the beast cadeceus+hoz is still the better choice.
wvx_leader_returns
18-05-2004, 02:05
I'm going to have to disagree with ivan and say freeze>shock>fire simply because I think freeze and shock are close dmg wise, but freeze makes your enemies Much slower as well. Chose your favorite but I would chose freeze.
The nice part about freeze is that things freeze before you get to them. Shock is nice tho becaues you damage things a tun before they run up to you. I prefer freze
andyishuge
18-05-2004, 05:01
my freezadin is level 77 and soloes almost all of hell, up to chapter 5. They're amazing. Give him a defiance or might merc and he'll destroy.
is holy shock, freeze, or fire the best things to use.
I prefere holy freeze. :evil:
OpiuTry_OnE
18-05-2004, 05:35
holy fire ! = ) pwnz holy shock pvp neday :thanks:
newbiengod
18-05-2004, 05:43
is holy shock, freeze, or fire the best things to use.
depends on what u are goping for. for instance a tesladin which focuses in holy shock. or if u wana be a freezadin which focusis in holy freeze. or is u want to be a firedin which focuses in holy fire. so it all up to what u like. and what u are going to be doing with this skill. pvp pvm hat class(zeal ect...) ect... so it all up too u. and yopur playing style. if u like watching monsters freeze from like 2 or 4 screens away go for holy freeze or if u like watching the aruas on u twirl go for what one u want. goodl uck :wave:
hes right, its all about waht you want
shock- more damage no matter waht anyone says (fully syergnized)
freeze- slow enemies less damage*
Fire- ...it could be fun...
and ivan, if you did go with the crescent moor runeword you wouldnt need the ba merc excep for bosses be cause of the itd
and if you go shock i fully suggest reading wurmers tesladin guide, its in the stickies
if you go freeze then read cats freezealot guide, i dont think its been stickied but go bakc a couple pages and look through the views number and itll be one wtih a high number of views
I've made all three.
I abandoned the Firealot at 54. He was horrible. Even when he would be fully synergized, he just didn't pack the punch that Holy Freeze or Holy Shock did.
Holy Freeze was next on my list, and he worked well. I went the crushing blow route, and concerning any superunique, I could easily take it down with a few zeals, even Hell baal on my own. The problem I was having was that overall, the damage wasn't what I had hoped, even fully synergized. Sure, slowing enemies means less damage needed, but I love having huge damage.
And this is where the Tesladin came into play. That's what I use now. He's great, level 83 with huge +lightning damage from Holy Shock, 1-over 6000 now I think. Couped with Crescent Moon, nothing stands in my guy's path. He is incredible...
...Actually, that's not the full story. Once I got done with Holy Shock and all its synergies, I decided to put some in Holy Freeze.
The weakness of these solo-element builds is just that; once they encounter Hell resistance to their respective elements, it's going to be a struggle. So in my opinion:
Get the best of both worlds.
wvx_leader_returns
18-05-2004, 07:53
MrPipes = :worship:
OpiuTry_OnE
18-05-2004, 22:36
holy fireeeeeeeeeeee gooooooooooooooooo
Green_Squirrel
18-05-2004, 23:15
People people. IMO, for PvM holy fire + Kuko/Ravenclaw/Demon Machine + Razortail is your recipe for slaughter.
My elemental ranger was a blast to play and very good crowd control. I used a Widowmaker on switch and went hybrid with holy shock for FI's or boss types.
I vote for holy fire if you want to go with an explosion arrow bow. I can't find a reason to use holy fire over the other two for melee.
:cheesy:
another option though is to go 2o holy shock 20 resist lightning 20 sanctuary 15 holy shield 4 conviction and 1 vengeance this will require smoe more ar though but i think this is the best route
Kitriara
19-05-2004, 21:47
There are a lot of different paths you can take depending on your gear options and how good of a player you are concerning difficult builds. Frost/Tesla hybrids are really powerful, I hear.
Go to the stickies at the top of the page... check mine for the Frost Zealot guide and of course Wurmer's excellent guide for the alternative.
If you're looking for higher damage, definitely go with Holy Shock, as when you compare both fully synergized holy freeze gets beat down. Too bad they really didnt make holy fire a very viable skill without a ranger build and specific equipment, I wouldve loved to play a firedin.
meant Kits freezealots guide in the stickies not Kats...sorry
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