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I am a pnb dueler, like bone spirit and spear. I was wondering...are we as a group even that good? im having trouble, my spirit does like 3k, and takes multiple multiple hits to kill a decent barb or druid or anything. and nothing is a 1 hit kill. and like, sorcs, cant touch, they out teleport everything....how can i be a good pvp pnb? I'm getting discouraged by lack of speed and damage on attacks
soulesschild
15-05-2004, 10:09
read my guide, should help you out with some things
read my guide, should help you out with some things
i did, thats how i made him. the questions in the above post are sorta what i came to find afterwords and some questions. im finding, their dmg is weak. and some targets are impossible to even hit, like sorcs.
soulesschild
15-05-2004, 10:17
sorcs you're mainly hoping for teeth, what kind of sorc in particular? that will help me elaborate more
one of the most important things to aim for is the 125% faster cast breakpoint, it is almost essential to becoming a good pb necro dueler
if you find that you're having a hard time killing barbs and such, it's most likely that you aren't running at 125% FC, yes barbs do take awhile to kill, but properly equipped and with some practice, other duels become easier, remember, everything takes practice, even if it is just moving your mouse and clicking ;)
thanks..for sorcs, mostly they tele right on top of u, cast orb and tele away. also, any sorc really. cause bone spirit, they can out run or out tele. and spear is sorta a shot in the dark...
soulesschild
15-05-2004, 22:45
thanks..for sorcs, mostly they tele right on top of u, cast orb and tele away. also, any sorc really. cause bone spirit, they can out run or out tele. and spear is sorta a shot in the dark...
sorcs should never, ever be able to teleport on top of you regardless
ok thanks..what about blizz sorc, cast and keep moving...impossible to hit with spear or spirit...also, how do u hotkey something without using a f key. say binding it to k. not sure how, but im out of f keys...thanks. and finally, can i get a link to the clan honor thing u talk about? the ones on ur guide don't work. thanks
soulesschild
16-05-2004, 07:10
ok thanks..what about blizz sorc, cast and keep moving...impossible to hit with spear or spirit...also, how do u hotkey something without using a f key. say binding it to k. not sure how, but im out of f keys...thanks. and finally, can i get a link to the clan honor thing u talk about? the ones on ur guide don't work. thanks
teeth works wonders to stun, then fire off a spear, or occasionally fire a BS or two, and if they play agressively, they'll run into it, you shouldn't really have THAT many hotkeys on a bonemancer, usually i just have bone spear, teleport, bone armor, bone spirit, teeth, bone wall, and soon clay golem once i get it, passive or pre-buff skills like BO, i put onto an F-key, usually i have my setup as ASDFZXCV, as they're easy to reach
how does one hotkey a skill without the f keys?
Lyxtwing
16-05-2004, 07:44
how does one hotkey a skill without the f keys?
Options, control config. I would set the new key as a main and have the f keys as others, at leasy until you get used to it.
im having huge trouble with blizz sorcs, generally 1 hit kill and i cant out manuever them, they have more mana. they just blizz and tele...odds arent in my favor
BabehJesus
19-05-2004, 01:39
You need Enigma.
No, I'm not some arrogant Diablo god telling you that you should get Enigma, and if you don't, you should just die. I'm telling you that you should get Enigma, or else you will die. I had a PVP necro a few months ago. I used Vipermage. But...it was a hopeless attempt.
I hate to say it, but it's true. Everyone here has been giving you great advice on how to survive in duels when everyone else, even the non-sorcs, are teleing around you. Sorry, but no matter what FCR you have, the bone spirits aren't going to move any fasters, and people will still be able to tele away from them.
The sad truth. So, I stripped my necro and traded his stuff away to make an MF sorc, so eventually, I'd have an Enigma myself.
Good luck with it.
xFullenex
19-05-2004, 01:54
My bonemancer does about 4.1k dmg hes got about 95% cast.. His gear is boneshade, arach belt, shako, maras, homon, and trangs gloves(going to pujt on magefist for regen mana) rings are 2 +~110 mana rings and books good ole Marrowwalks :lol: thats how my spirits so high plus my bone armor takes almost 1k dmg hehe :yep: I havent tried spell caster because i nkow i'll get smited by them... But ya, this necro is a kick *** dueler even for someone like me that doesnt have harldy ne dueling exp!
i have 125 fcr 75 all res 6.2k sprit and has never lost a duel
Don't underestimate good old Vipermagi guys!(30 faster cast, nice resists and +1 skills is very close to God :) )I use it on my bone necro, without using Marrowwalk bug and I do 4,7-4,8k with spirit and 4,3-4,4 spear. I saw someone who adviced using Enigma, but I think it's possible to win anyway. Just get some wall or stuff behind you back, and noone can surprise you from behind. The "v-formation" is even better against sorc (getting your back towards a corner and a wall on each side). I took out many "drop bombing" sorcs in 1.09 using this method. They can only attack from up front you know.
Personally I only do private duels by rules, so teleport is only allowed on sorc. Of course you will have a harder time against Enigma users if not using one yourself, but think of the sweetness of such victory! :thumbsup:
soulesschild
19-05-2004, 03:09
i have 125 fcr 75 all res 6.2k sprit and has never lost a duel
are you on WEST NL? cuz me and my friends will take your necro up on that challenge.
i have enigma...i hardly have the mana to out teleport a sorc around. i also have trouble with hurricane druids, they tele on top of me ...and ackk
heres my setup
lvl 80
bone spirit is like 3.2 not sure how to get it higher
Um'ed Shako
Enigma
Um'ed 3-3-3 Blood lord skull (forget name)
arach mesh
raven and dwarf
boneshade
sandstorms/marrows
2 res charms
20/20/9 anni
i have like 100 FCR...and low dmg on BS as u see..im sure a few levels will help, but i dont see it making that much difference, and i sure wont get FCR with levels...and although i have enigma, i dont have the mana to be out teleporting sorcs and stuff...thanks for all your help guys
soulesschild
19-05-2004, 04:16
nice anni ^^, whats your res look like?, how much mana are we talking about?
7,40,17,63 are res. after cta mana is 556. but 1 tele takes like 20 mana. also, any ideas on how to make my BS hurt more? since 4k dmg is like optimal.
7,40,17,63 are res. after cta mana is 556. but 1 tele takes like 20 mana. also, any ideas on how to make my BS hurt more? since 4k dmg is like optimal.
1)Poison & Bone Grand Charms will increase your damage.
2)As for Blizz Sorcs, if you keep teleporting (not in a straight, predictable line) and setting some bonespirits around em, then they shouldnt be able to hit you and you will have no trouble with them. Plus they have cooldown time. If you are dueling in a Public Game, carry some mana pots if you really are running short on mana.
you dont have to 'out teleport' them, you just have to teleport smartly. 500 mana should be able to take out most pub blizz sorcs
soulesschild
20-05-2004, 09:11
your mana count seems obscenely low, you'll need at least 800-900 if u dont want to be constantly chugging pots, i recommend some grand charms of mana or if u can get ur hands on them, mana/life scs, and i would honestly take wizspike over boneshade, it would increase your res, give lots of mana, and have a decent faster cast
no im no yank im from sweet old england so i play europe you got a char there i can beat?
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