Amabow, strafe damage, maybe a bug???

[Odin-ita]

Hi all guys, new here.

Explain me this please, i can't find a reason.

Amabow, level 72, ladder char. Nightmare level. don't think it's important for this problem.

I've maxed strafe (lev 28 with various items) and multiple shot it's just level 9 (1 point and +8 from items).

Damage inflicted with this skills active:

Normal shot (no skills used): 1055-2072

Multiple shot (+0% damage): 791-1554
That's correct, 1055 and 2072 *3/4 returns this damage

Strafe: (+140% damage): 837-1771
mumble, (1055 and 2072*140/100)*3/4 returns another damage, not surely this :scratch:

Guided arrow (+40% damage):1072-2155

WHYYYYY? I can post screenshots if needed but i'd like better not sparing more time on this... damn, real sad... days of skills calc and now... gggrrrr

Can anyone tell me why? i can't find a reason. Maybe a bug?

Thx for all answers :worship:

[Shanksie1337]

just a quick question:

do you have any charms that add damage - ie poison / fire / cold etc, and/or any max/min charms, or any gear, such as WT's that add damage?

[Odin-ita]

Right question, first thing i thought.

I got some venom sc (about 500 dama) and normal nice stuff for lev 72.
Put everything on stash, situation without them (better normal bow found to try, normal bow without any kind of other item):

normal dama: 9-24

strafe: 10-26
(9 or 24*140/100)*3/4 returns 9,5-26, i can say it's correct

multiple: 6-18
right

guided (+40%): 10-25
right

So, this makes u think that it is generated from bow damage, without any bonus.
I answered me this but... why does it NOT afflict multiple shot?

On multi shot u take final damage and makes *3/4 and with strafe no, why? damn, surely I know this is the reason but it makes me think as a nonsense. It becomes an unuseful skill.

Usually an amabow grows or with multi maxed or strafe, if this calc will be right, there's no need to max neither of the 2 skills. Just 1 or 3 points. Mumble, can understand.

[Backdoor Bandit]

This is hardly a bug, rather a mis-calculation on your side. Plz list any jewels/charms/items other than your bow that grant you +damage in any form.

-Backdoor Bandit

[Liessa Wyrmbane]

Damage is calculated thusly:

normal attack (+0%) damage = bow_damage * (1 + dex + 0)
guided arrow (+40%) damage = bow_damage * (1 + dex + 0.4)
multiple shot damage = (bow_damage * (1 + dex + 0)) * 0.75
strafe (+140%) damage = (bow_damage * (1 + dex + 1.4)) * 0.75

Yes, that's a very crude explanation, but you'll get it. Basically you forgot to apply the dexterity bonus (as well as other sources of +ed% like Might aura and +ed% from non-weapon equipment) with the +ed% from the different bow skills.

[Phantasy]

Liessa, If I use your formula with a Botd hydra bow (150-350 damage) let's see what happens if I use the skill strafe (your formula- strafe (+140%) damage = (bow_damage * (1 + dex + 1.4)) * 0.75):

Where bow_damage=A and dex = B your formula would be: (A*(1+B+1.4))*.75= strafe (+140%dam)

A= 150-350 B=150 (lets pretend)

((bow damage)-->150-350*(1+150+1.4))= 22860-53340*.75= 17145-40050 damage strafe (+140%dam).

Wow can I do this damage in the game please ??? Lolz! I think something might be missing in your formula or I interpretted it wrong :scratch:

[Liessa Wyrmbane]

Well, I was kinda in a hurry when I wrote the original response. Sorry about that...

By "dex" I mean the dexterity bonus that bows give to your damage (dex = dexterity / 100).

[sputnik78]

There is one other missing element here:

take Liessa Wyrmbane 's calculations (they are right if you use dex bonus, dex/100).
However they only apply to physical damage.

+ elemental damage is calculated like this:

Normal, guided, etc.: elemental damage added after physical damage calc = + elemental damage given by gear and charms.

Strafe and Multi: the elemental damage added is = (0.75)*(+ elem from gear and charms)

So, Multishot is always 75% of normal attacks.

Strafe is (75% of elemental) + (damage calculated in Liessa's equations)

I am not sure if + min/max damage is done before or after the ED and dex bonus. I am also not sure if the 75% rule applies for it.