Big time Elementeler's, I need YOUR help!

[Kincade_D2]

Yes yes, i can say that i need some Fire elemental help for PVP playing, not pvm. Im making a Pure Fire PVP elem druid. I need your help. The main thing i need help on is distributing skill points. First i will be saying what a wear/spend stats on. PLEASE comment on my gear setup.

Gear as follows:
Heart of the Oak
Enigma ( not sure on armor, Dusk/Wirefleece/Arch, your comment welcome )
Stormshield ( Um Rune )
Shako ( Possibly Jalals, your comment welcome ) ( Um Rune )
Mara's Ammy, Ravenfrost, Soj
Arachnid Mesh
Magefist
Aldur's Boots

You think the sockets should be Um rune? Or facet. Im thinking um rune because no good cyclone. Also what for the enigma. Please comment :)

Now onto the Stats. Doing the smart thing. Just enough Str for gear, Dex for max block, Vital all else.

Skills is where i need the most help. If i max every synergy, then i can only put 1 in oak, and probably not have ravens or any other pets ( to take damage or put in block recov ). And it will take me 90+ to do. The other thing i was thinking is i could max Fissure,Volcano,Armaggedon,Oak,1 raven, maybe down to 1 bear, rest into other synergies. I just want to have a nice solid build. No doubt this will be Very fun for me, it would be great if i could make a good one :winner: .

Well, i thank you in advanced, im making this to annihilate all the wind druids :lol:, haha JK. Anyways, thnx!!!!

P.S. ( Hey Fatty!! :buddies: )

[FattyMcGee]

hey steve! :drink: :drink:

I was almost thinking you could do only 1 in geddon (use it mostly to scare people from charging into you) but then again, if fissure/volc are your main spells, geddon's a synergy of volc >.<


Man, the skill choice is gonna be tough. ANyway, I'll think about it more later :) cya online!

--fatty

[Kincade_D2]

Fatty you were afk for like 2 hours last night wut up with that :scratch: ! Anyways still trying to make this build. Could more people please comment also =D

[memememe173]

I'd suggest only 1 in geddon, used as a deterrent

go with SW for summons, and since OS is prebuffable it could have less points

since FCR doesn't help much with fire skills, I'd suggest FHR to replace it

[mepersoner]

Yeah let's take the most damaging fire spell druids have and only put one point into it so it isn't effective.... -_-

Heart of the Oak Good, but wiz-spike comes in handy when you have to stack resists (vs. paladins and sorcs).

Enigma ( not sure on armor, Dusk/Wirefleece/Arch, your comment welcome ) Breastplate is your best bet, so you can invest a minimal amount of strength to wear gear and a maximum amount into vita.

Stormshield ( Um Rune ) I would've gone with resists and -req jewel.

Shako ( Possibly Jalals, your comment welcome ) ( Um Rune ) I'd use Shako in some situations... ravenlore in others.

Mara's Ammy, Ravenfrost, Soj Some of the time you won't need a ravenfrost, get another soj for that.

Arachnid Mesh Yup.

Magefist Yup.

Aldur's Boots I'd consider waterwalks or sandstorm trek as well.


Skills is where i need the most help. If i max every synergy, then i can only put 1 in oak, and probably not have ravens or any other pets ( to take damage or put in block recov ). And it will take me 90+ to do. The other thing i was thinking is i could max Fissure,Volcano,Armaggedon,Oak,1 raven, maybe down to 1 bear, rest into other synergies. I just want to have a nice solid build. No doubt this will be Very fun for me, it would be great if i could make a good one There are two builds I would consider.

The build I use is max out all the synergies for volcano and armageddon, then stick a point in ravens, a point in spirit wolves, and dump the rest into oak sage. Volcano is your main offensive attack on offense and armageddon is your main offensive attack when you need to be defensive.

The other build, is max out all the synergies for fissure. Fissure will be our main fire attack, volcano your main physical damaging attack. Put a point in ravens and a point in spirit wolves, rest oak sage.

Volcano >>> Fissure in most cases. Remember, fissure is all fire damage, volcano is not. Volcano does more damage (more balls than vents) and will hit a single point a lot more (which since most people teleport is better). However, fissure is easier to hit moving targets with and can do more damage if they're just passing over it (like with charge or whirlwind).

Armageddon does the most damage of all fire spells and has a hidden physical damage it doesn't tell about on the skill screen (but does show up on the character screen).

since FCR doesn't help much with fire skills, I'd suggest FHR to replace it Don't listen to people who things that say things like this:

1) The faster you cast the faster you can move again. This helps you dodge attacks. The longer you stay still, the better chance they have to hit you. Since your main attack will probably be volcano, your advantage is too slowly kill them from a distance by igniting a volcano underneath them. Since your duels won't be quick, you'll be dodging a lot of attacks, a lot which will only take 2 -3 hits to kill you.

2) You'll be teleporting, you need FCR to teleport and dodge decently.

Oh, and whatever you do, don't take tips from the fire guide in the strategy compendium, it's a horrible reference for p v p in many aspects.

Edit: Note, I'd suggest having some absorb for back up and some other caster gear (like a lidless /w a fire facet) for when you're facing classes you don't need DR or stacked resists against.

[Kincade_D2]

Wow, thnx a lot mep, i think im gonna go the volcano/geddon route. Meme, thnx for trying also, but i think i may be going with geddon after all because with a hidden phys, i think thats awesome. Agian, thnx mep this will really help. :thumbsup:

[mepersoner]

It's not a lot of physical damage, so don't be hoping for much. ;)

[memememe173]

Wow, thnx a lot mep, i think im gonna go the volcano/geddon route. Meme, thnx for trying also, but i think i may be going with geddon after all because with a hidden phys, i think thats awesome. Agian, thnx mep this will really help. :thumbsup:
to tell you the truth...mep really "showed me up" I think he is dead on...but in my defense I didn't see you were using Enigma :o which makes FCR and geddon much more useful

[Kincade_D2]

Srry for acting harsh :(

[memememe173]

Srry for acting harsh :(I didn't think you acted harsh :scratch:

meh, lets just agree in our love for one the best kept secrets...fire duirds

[Kincade_D2]

:) Btw, would it be ok to use wirefleece for enigma? If so im gonna get one real soon, so just say if ya think so. I figure if i max block, then im gonna try and tank once in a while, so why not the extra d.

[memememe173]

IMO no, because you don't have any defense multipliers, so you don't really get the advantage that a barb or pally would

[Kincade_D2]

Damn bought one before i read this, ill sell it now and buy bp ahah.

[Tor]

skills:
max oak
1 in ravens/SW your + skills will get them to 5+
max fissure (grat for killing runners aka lame-a-zons)
max volcano
1-10 in geddon depending on how much you like the skill
max boulder
max firestorm (not sure about this) its a great melee skill though


remeber you can cast wind skills as a fire druid so having cyclone armor and hurricane/geddon combo is fairly nice.

[mepersoner]

Fissure build is my next build, but I doubt that will be for a long time. ;)

to tell you the truth...mep really "showed me up" I think he is dead on...but in my defense I didn't see you were using Enigma :o which makes FCR and geddon much more useful
Meh, fire druids are my new favorite druid of 1.10. Tough to win with, but not impossible, just how I like 'em.

[Crogon]

very nice mep, only thing i can think of would be a shael in the stormshield would give you the fbr boost, if you stick with the stormshield. that is still the best socket for a pvp'er using a stormie isn't it?

[mepersoner]

Depends, I have a minus req/res jewel because I wanted to save strength to get more vita..

[Crogon]

o yeh, fergot about that. -req on a caster, you are correct. ;) hmm, on a sorcy, she needs all the mana she can get though. ele druid is just gaining a bit more life, assuming you have an oak. hmmmmmmmm..

hard call, i guess if you need the resists, then definitelly req/resist jewel. if not i'd be hard pressed to decide. i guess it would boil down to how much life all that wasted str is gonna get you vs. the slower block, which could leave you in a world of hurt.

[Black_Dog]

i used to know a handful of really good fire eles back in 09 (hell, back in 09... Fire eles where pretty much the only way to go... but of course, they did the ole Geddon & Nado combo... Cast geddon, run run, spam nado, run run, spam some more, run run, cast geddon etc. etc. etc.)
yeah... hurricane sucked back in 09... can you imagine that? o_O

[mepersoner]

Hurricane still sucks.

[Nuage--]

This is a silly question to most of you but how many spirit and dire wolves can be summoned at once? Which is better for pvp and why?

[memememe173]

This is a silly question to most of you but how many spirit and dire wolves can be summoned at once? Which is better for pvp and why?
5 SW or 3 DW

spirit wolves probably, because there's more of them, so they get in the opponents way more

[Zalastra]

maybe im stupid...

Quote:
Enigma ( not sure on armor, Dusk/Wirefleece/Arch, your comment welcome )

Breastplate is your best bet, so you can invest a minimal amount of strength to wear gear and a maximum amount into vita.


...but why pointing on breastplate when using stormshield? :scratch:

[gvandale]

breast plate allows low str req (35 iirc) which will take your str up to higher levels to equip higher req items (ss trek +15 str) when combo'd together with other charms and accessories will grant the str req for ss.

ss is one of the best shields bar none!

great blocking
resists
pdr

so there you have it.

on my necro, i have base str / dex / energy
rest vit

gg me

[Kincade_D2]

Well as much as i was gonna love to play this guy, my d2 days are quite over i think :( I come on today to find out there was a dupe swipe, and what do i lose? My enigma and hoto i bought yesterday and 2 high runes. Oh well, atleast i didnt trade them to someone else and they lose em. And to those who think i can get these back easy, i play ladder. It has taken me months to aqcuire stuff. Oh well, something bad always happens.