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Trisk3lion
20-04-2004, 17:45
Okej, I'm desperate! I'm making an barb thrower. My current level is 68 and I need your advice about my skills and Gear! I will properly take him to lvl 85-90.

Skills:
Max Double Swing
Max Throw Mastery
1 Double Throw
1 Frenzy
1 Iron skin
1 Increased Stamina
1 Increased Speed
1 Natural Resistence
28 Unused skillpoints

Attributes: With Gear
Str 144 150
Dex 151 177
Vit 115 115
Eng Base 20

605 life
87 mana
3500 AR
2,2k-3,7k Damage

Gear
Helm: Gaze
Amu: Atma
Weapon: 2x Demon Arch
Armor: Black Hades
Belt: Razortail
Gloves: Sander
Boots: Sanders
Ring1: Leech Ring
Ring2: Rare ring (not good)


So this is my current thrower!
So my Questions is:

1. Where should i put the rest of my skill points? (Most important!!)

2 Most of my gear is just junk. But what should I replace it with?

3. I think my AR is little to low. What can i do about it?

4. Is my attributes totaly screwed up?

bronzdragon5545
21-04-2004, 02:17
Okej, I'm desperate! I'm making an barb thrower. My current level is 68 and I need your advice about my skills and Gear! I will properly take him to lvl 85-90.

Skills:
Max Double Swing
Max Throw Mastery
1 Double Throw
1 Frenzy
1 Iron skin
1 Increased Stamina
1 Increased Speed
1 Natural Resistence
28 Unused skillpoints

Attributes: With Gear
Str 144 150
Dex 151 177
Vit 115 115
Eng Base 20

605 life
87 mana
3500 AR
2,2k-3,7k Damage

Gear
Helm: Gaze
Amu: Atma
Weapon: 2x Demon Arch
Armor: Black Hades
Belt: Razortail
Gloves: Sander
Boots: Sanders
Ring1: Leech Ring
Ring2: Rare ring (not good)


So this is my current thrower!
So my Questions is:

1. Where should i put the rest of my skill points? (Most important!!)

2 Most of my gear is just junk. But what should I replace it with?

3. I think my AR is little to low. What can i do about it?

4. Is my attributes totaly screwed up?


1. vita

2. ok i would go

helm : arreats
ammy : angelic
wep : ur fine
arm : valor
belt : a cheap verdoges
gloves : a cheap draks
boots : goreriders
ring1 : angelic
ring2 : angelic

3. the angelic set well take care of ya

4. its ok just rest into vita and max out ur bo and shout

ReVolution
21-04-2004, 02:28
Max BO and Shoiut and 1 in ww. Put all stats in vita

Helm - Arreats
Armor - Shaft or 160/60 ias
Belt - String or Verds
Gloves - Dracs or anything with ias
Boots - Gores or IK boots
Weps - youre fine
Ammy - HIGHLORDS
Rings - Raven frosts, or 1 raven/leech ring

Arieta
21-04-2004, 05:40
I would also suggest maxing double throw, since you are a throwing barb after all.

Omikron8
21-04-2004, 06:40
Unless you have a death wish max out battle orders.

boochie61
21-04-2004, 18:56
Okej, I'm desperate! I'm making an barb thrower. My current level is 68 and I need your advice about my skills and Gear! I will properly take him to lvl 85-90.

Skills:
Max Double Swing
Max Throw Mastery
1 Double Throw
1 Frenzy
1 Iron skin
1 Increased Stamina
1 Increased Speed
1 Natural Resistence
28 Unused skillpoints

Attributes: With Gear
Str 144 150
Dex 151 177
Vit 115 115
Eng Base 20

605 life
87 mana
3500 AR
2,2k-3,7k Damage

Gear
Helm: Gaze
Amu: Atma
Weapon: 2x Demon Arch
Armor: Black Hades
Belt: Razortail
Gloves: Sander
Boots: Sanders
Ring1: Leech Ring
Ring2: Rare ring (not good)


So this is my current thrower!
So my Questions is:

1. Where should i put the rest of my skill points? (Most important!!)

2 Most of my gear is just junk. But what should I replace it with?

3. I think my AR is little to low. What can i do about it?

4. Is my attributes totaly screwed up?

ok some problems. Too much strength. Not enough dex. Unless your loaded with dex charms youre attack rating can't be good, even if you get the angelic ring and ammy. Your dex should already be way over 200. Your strength should be lower, and you have no ias, and even with the frenzy charge youre not going to be very fast. By the time youre a 70 you need to fix the dex thing, especially if youre not going to put more than 1 in double throw. Bo should be maxed already. Shout should have at least 4 or 5. Natural resist should have a few more (no shield, you need some resists or you will be dying a lot in hell) Black hades is probably not what you need although you could put 2 ias jewels and a resist/damage jewel and it would be better. Crow caw is good, as is coh. You don't really need a high def number armor, you need speed. If youre getting hit alot, even with huge vit, with no shield youre going to die. When you are in the 80's you had better figure out a way to be over 220 dex and over 150 vit or this build will be toast (unless you have some massive dex gear, then pump vit) One more thing put one point in leap, and leap attack, you need some way to get out of bad situations dont you? Last, you didnt mention what kind of merc you have. Make sure you have an act 2 might or holy freeze merc. Both are very helpful to the build. If you have any merc other than those two, you had better have either grim ward or howl as well. Gaze is nice, but do you really need damage reduction with a thrower, even a machine gunner, because by your build, with no masteries in a weapon, you are just charging up and running back with your frenzy right. Skills, you need skills. I would scrap the gaze, get a face or Andy's visage, and get a rare mana leech ring for the other ring with resists. Also a better glove and boots set would be the disciple gear, although the rites of passage are slower, but the laying of hands gives you the demon kill damage bonus (all bosses are demons right) Personally I use laying of hands with infernostrides to overcome the andy's visage fire penalty and I make the second to last break point without frenzy.

Evil ED
21-04-2004, 19:22
605 life
87 mana
3500 AR
2,2k-3,7k DamageYou`re kidding. I don`t have a great build but my barbarian is packed with 1005 life al lvl 72. With Battle Orders, life goes up to, almost 1450. Mana is 185. I`m melee but it helps to have LARGE amounts of life to a barb thrower too. So....Battle Orders. :thumbsup:

Superhal
22-04-2004, 03:01
1. battle orders, leftovers in ww, shout or iron skin.
2. beg harder. shop for javs. craft javs/throwing axes. looks not bad though, for pvm. sanders got to go. try crafted rings or gambling. some magics are pretty good until you get decent rares.
3. for pvm, no.
4. yes and no. yes, as 1 pt frenzy doesn't do anything. you need around 10-15 to see any effect. you got the basics though.

banditto1969
22-04-2004, 03:49
Well I think I can help you in the AR area. Definetely get a Demon Limb and enchant yourself for the added 20% AR. It really REALLY helps a ton.

Superhal, why you say get different javies? What ones are you using? I have a thrower using glimmers and demon arch's, also many other but I haven't seen a whole lot better throwing items even including several cruel etheral ones I had.

bronzdragon5545
23-04-2004, 03:18
Well I think I can help you in the AR area. Definetely get a Demon Limb and enchant yourself for the added 20% AR. It really REALLY helps a ton.

Superhal, why you say get different javies? What ones are you using? I have a thrower using glimmers and demon arch's, also many other but I haven't seen a whole lot better throwing items even including several cruel etheral ones I had.

i agrea with the demon limb but its hell to repair and u only get around 20 charges(or mines just crap) and it goes away after not to long

banditto1969
23-04-2004, 03:35
each charge is only $10K gold to repair and it lasts for 10 minutes. essential for any melee barb.

Superhal
23-04-2004, 16:08
Superhal, why you say get different javies? What ones are you using? I have a thrower using glimmers and demon arch's, also many other but I haven't seen a whole lot better throwing items even including several cruel etheral ones I had.

in .09 i used mainly cruel harpoons. i had only 1 cruel winged harpoon. the cruel harpoons had @200 damage, and the cwh had around 280. either of these do as much or more damage than the new weps now. i was surprised the damage was so low.

in .10, i have a rare short spear or something with 200 damage, no upgrade, @3XX% ed.

the character screen is wrong. it is not calculating throwing damage correctly. if you wield a good cwh, your damage will be higher.

i don't like glimmer and demon arch because most of the damage is elemental. if you add it up, it does appear to do like 600 damage (200 phys +x-400 elemental) however, only the phys damage goes through the skill/stat multipliers.

Crill
24-04-2004, 23:11
Get some Lacerators.