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Phresh
20-04-2004, 06:38
Was wondering if going through portal in hell with high level char and continually goin to anya is the best way to find this claw?

EndTheory
20-04-2004, 17:26
That can't POSSIBLY be the best way. Pit runs and/or gambling seem MUCH more effecient.

Damnatory
20-04-2004, 17:43
Was wondering if going through portal in hell with high level char and continually goin to anya is the best way to find this claw?

I did that for over an hour yesterday, talking to anya and runin back and forth through the portal to Nahilthak's temple... The best that I came up with was a +2 Assassin Skill and +2 Shadow Disc.. I saw a few that had +2 Assa + 1 Traps, but its the same as +3 traps, and I couldn't stand doing it any longer.

So theoretically its possible to do it this way, but your going to get mighty bored. :sleep:

(Side question: I've seen claws spawn from anya with 5 mods before, is it possible to spawn +2 Assa +3 Traps, +3 LS all together?(and maybe even 3 sockets?) 8 to traps would be killer.)

EndTheory
20-04-2004, 18:20
Is there an exploit to continuously get the anya item quest? If so - probably is a good way then. I thought he meant rushing through all the acts to get the quest...

Damnatory
20-04-2004, 18:57
Is there an exploit to continuously get the anya item quest?

None that I know of. Aside from the Item that you get for the quest, Anya is also a merchant and sells Magic claws, thats what I was speaking of. Every time you leave the town ( via the portal next to her) there are new items that she sells. Takes awhile but she does have some worth while claws.. Its sort of like checking Malah for warcry weapons. :D

Uzziah
20-04-2004, 20:36
I did that for over an hour yesterday, talking to anya and runin back and forth through the portal to Nahilthak's temple... The best that I came up with was a +2 Assassin Skill and +2 Shadow Disc.. I saw a few that had +2 Assa + 1 Traps, but its the same as +3 traps, and I couldn't stand doing it any longer.

So theoretically its possible to do it this way, but your going to get mighty bored. :sleep:

(Side question: I've seen claws spawn from anya with 5 mods before, is it possible to spawn +2 Assa +3 Traps, +3 LS all together?(and maybe even 3 sockets?) 8 to traps would be killer.)

+2 assassin and +3 traps are in the same affix lvl they won't spawn together. In 1.09 IIRC you could get +2 assassin and +2 traps to spawn together on a rare. So it would be possible but highly unlikely to get +7 to a single assassin skill in 1.09.

Running in and out of the red portal is the cheapest way to get +3 assassin skills and +3 LS. However, you have to get either an exceptional or elite claw to spawn in her screen the you have to get +3 assassin skill to spawn then +3 LS. It will adventually spawn but its going to take a long time considering the probability for those 3 events to occur on the same item. I think its like 1/11 chance to get an elite to spawn as a buyable item. Then you have the chance to get +3 skills then the chance to get +3 LS.

Kaffe
21-04-2004, 15:33
Think it was Mule (might have been Mort) who sold me one back in 1.09. +3 Traps / +3 LS. Scissor Suwaayah though so it's a tad bit heavy. He said he bought at either Malah or Anya.

projectHUM4N
22-04-2004, 00:41
I'd say total hours shopping Anya for me is like 2 and a half. I came out with the following.
2*+3 Traps Claws
3*+3 Shadow Disciplines Claws

Pretty decent for the time spent. Mind numbing but well worth it.

Kaffe
22-04-2004, 12:43
I'd say total hours shopping Anya for me is like 2 and a half. I came out with the following.
2*+3 Traps Claws
3*+3 Shadow Disciplines Claws

Pretty decent for the time spent. Mind numbing but well worth it.

IMO, if you don't get any good side-skills, those 2 * +3 Traps Claws would be better replaced with Either 2 * Tuc's or 2 * Jade Talons (or a blend of the two). There Jade Talons adds FHR, Res, and up to +2 to Shadow Disciplines.

And the Tuc's are strictly amazing, 20/20 str and dex. 30% FHR, +2 all assassin skills (helps Mind Blast as well). Heck with a bit of hard-work you might even try to make a C/C Hybrid with it :).

The SD Claws though are nice, and I only managed to purchase one pair of 'em before I lost my patience...

projectHUM4N
22-04-2004, 13:59
2 Tucs? With a trapsin? lol Naw, two tucs would give me only +4 to traps, that's weak. I'm gettin my LS up to the 9k dmg area.

Frankeinstein
22-04-2004, 19:44
I have to agree on the shopping deal w/ Anya. It kinda sux & gets boring but worth it if you get what you want.

I have collected a bunch of claws for different lvl assy's this way.
My Grail claw so far is:
+3 traps
+3 LS
+1 DF
+2 CS
+8 max damage

(BTW, it took me several hours to get that claw but well worth it)

I have serveral +3 trap & other modifier like + dam on them
I pass on the +3 ma claws cause my tucs will always be better for about the same lvl you can use them.

I also have sevreal +3 shadow claws. but when I get redy to leave town I put my Jade talon, +3 shad, 2 soj on to bonus my Sm skill & cast a lvl 31Sm. then I switch to my fighting/def gear


Is may be a dumb question but can gloves spawn w/ anything else besides MA skills? Like is there ever a + to traps glove out there?

Frankeinstein
22-04-2004, 19:52
I saw a few that had +2 Assa + 1 Traps, but its the same as +3 traps, and I couldn't stand doing it any longer.


not really, you get +skills in other areas if you put pts there. I don't many pure trappers that do not have at least 1 pt not in the traps tree. Most ppl have a SW or a SW so they would get the bonues form the claw too.
Also ceaheper way as far a using skill pts to up fade or weapon block & BoS...

Kaffe
22-04-2004, 23:13
2 Tucs? With a trapsin? lol Naw, two tucs would give me only +4 to traps, that's weak. I'm gettin my LS up to the 9k dmg area.

Well, compared to 2 x +3 Traps. I would probably find it better. Given the bonuses you get from Tuc's.

However, if I manage to find a mate to my +3 Traps / +3 LS Claw, I would probably pick that. There's a slight differnce of +4 to all vs. +6 to Trap Tree vs. +12 to you main attack...

Mooker89
23-04-2004, 01:46
So how do I shop at anya?? Is it acutally shopping from her and buying items?? So should i carry quite a bit of gold I presume?

Damnatory
23-04-2004, 10:57
So should i carry quite a bit of gold I presume?

Yeah, I have a few pair of claws I have bought from her that were over 400k to purchase.. Oddly enough though, the claws with just the +3 traps or +3 SD are only like 12k, just when you get the combination of +3 and other skills does the price increase exponentially.

Frankeinstein
23-04-2004, 13:04
So how do I shop at anya?? Is it acutally shopping from her and buying items?? So should i carry quite a bit of gold I presume?
It's pretty simple. You go to Anya after she is saved. & you check her inventory for trade. You don't have to buy anything. then pop thru the portal & back to her again. Her inventory will change each time you do this.
Her weapons tab will reflect what your char can use... best ex. is assy=claws.
every once is a very great while, a godly item will come up. & it will cost a fortune!!! like over $1,000,000 for the item so you need to have the money to buy it. if you see the item & can't afford it & leave camp the item will be gone.

So you should always have enough $$$ to purchase the item & of course the room.
& of course Anya Hell will net the possible best item for your class in the game. as far as other items like the armor tab, somtimes good stuff shows up. I just stick to the weapons tab myself.

BTW it can get Very, Very, Very... long & boring doing this but sooner or later something good will come up. It's like doing pindle runs.

Its also cheaper than gambling.

Uzziah
23-04-2004, 15:21
Yeah, I have a few pair of claws I have bought from her that were over 400k to purchase.. Oddly enough though, the claws with just the +3 traps or +3 SD are only like 12k, just when you get the combination of +3 and other skills does the price increase exponentially.

+individual skills are the most expensive mod in the game for some odd reason. Just look at the staves and wands of act 1 normal. they can be in the 100k range with only +2 "skill" given the right skill. I believe that the skill thats added has a large impact on the cost. It seems that a level 1 skill cost far less then a level 30 skill for the same number of +x "skill"

Kaffe
23-04-2004, 23:52
Is may be a dumb question but can gloves spawn w/ anything else besides MA skills? Like is there ever a + to traps glove out there?

It's not a dumb question. And the answer is No.

royalesse
24-04-2004, 00:13
I remember reading a similar thread in the sorc forum. They actually recommended shopping in NM at lvl 50 instead Hell at a higher lvl. Haven't tried myself but it might be worth a test.

tonyning
24-04-2004, 05:23
patient is all u need.
anya spawn me a +3 traps +3 LS b4.

Mooker89
24-04-2004, 17:44
Well I tried "shping out and I am very pleased with my results:
3x +3 trap claws
1x M/a Claw
2x Shadow Disciplines Claws
1x +3 traps + 1 wake of fire + 2 dragon flight

I am very pleased but I am still waiting for those 3 Traps + 3 LS ones...

wsimian
25-04-2004, 09:04
not really, you get +skills in other areas if you put pts there. I don't many pure trappers that do not have at least 1 pt not in the traps tree. Most ppl have a SW or a SW so they would get the bonues form the claw too.
Also ceaheper way as far a using skill pts to up fade or weapon block & BoS...

I went with the 2 Tucs, and was pleased with the boost on fade, weapon block, and SW. My overall trap damage is lower, of course ... but backed in a corner I still have a way to fight myself out. The life leech helps as well.

lextalionis
28-04-2004, 23:04
What is the best character level to look for claws 99, 50?, do I need to look at Hell Anya or will other work as well?

Mooker89
28-04-2004, 23:40
I went with the 2 Tucs, and was pleased with the boost on fade, weapon block, and SW. My overall trap damage is lower, of course ... but backed in a corner I still have a way to fight myself out. The life leech helps as well.

Your leech shouldn't help or persuade you in anyway to use tucs because leech is not anywhere near good for a trapsin you'll get very very low leech and might as well have stuck with more dmg with the trap claws to get you out of that predicament.

Kaffe
29-04-2004, 00:13
I went with the 2 Tucs, and was pleased with the boost on fade, weapon block, and SW. My overall trap damage is lower, of course ... but backed in a corner I still have a way to fight myself out. The life leech helps as well.

The +4 to All is better than a mere +6 to traps imo, it differs by merely two skill points. And, since Lightning Sins pack such a punch as it is I would really recommend getting versatility up to scratch.

2 x Tuc's is =
40 Str
40 Dex
60% FHR
+4 to All
2 Sockets
-30 Weapon Speed (for faster trap laying that is)

2 * Trap Claws are
+ 6 to traps
Possibly 4 sockets.

2 * +3 Traps / +3 LS are
+ 6 to traps, and +12 to LS
Up to 4 Open Sockets

Really, +12 to LS would be the only reason to pick anything other than tuc's or Jade Talon's (for res.). The 60% FHR is a great boost, and a pair of bloodfists or shadow dancers (while quite heavy) offers another 30%. That's the 86% breakpoint right there. You can translate those 60% to either 12 * Small 5% FHR charms, or 5 * Grand FHR charms, which equals about 200+ Life. Of course, you could choose not to aim for FHR at all. But, as I said, your overall versatility will drop. Sins have pretty deasant FHR, and with the 5 frame Claw Block it's nice to have a bit faster FHR.

So stick with tuc's for a while ;).

Master-mind
30-04-2004, 23:09
Can you find +3 traps +3 LS -claws from Hell Anya only or are available on any difficulty? :scratch:

Frankeinstein
30-04-2004, 23:29
Can you find +3 traps +3 LS -claws from Hell Anya only or are available on any difficulty? :scratch:


Thats where I got mine, but that was after MANY hours of "buying"

Necrochild313
30-04-2004, 23:58
I spent hours shopping for a single +3 shadow claw (I already had one) to use to prebuff for my kicksin.

I eventually found one, but not after I ran into

6x +3 trap claws, no joke, one had +2 lite sentry :). I gave a few of them away to a newb who was using crap, I can be nice. Of course not the +2 lite sentry one ;).
2x +3 MA claws, anya got the opportunity to keep those

royalesse
01-05-2004, 21:29
What is the best character level to look for claws 99, 50?, do I need to look at Hell Anya or will other work as well?
Assuming that the Arreat Summit info is correct (and yes that's a big assumption) I'd shop NM Anya at lvl 60. Two reasons are that it's closer to the lvl req for +3 skill tree items and it's more likely that you won't get it on an exceptional or elite claw... which I'm under the impression that they can spawn on any claw while others seem to think that they can spawn only on elite claws.

Have I tested it... no... I'm married, I have a job, and I help my wife maintain one of her family businesses so I'm straped for time... Also, my computer burned out a few weeks ago so if I play I play on her's... aight... enough belly aching... if you test it let me know how it goes.