Crafting Blood Zerker axes

[Katharsis]

hi,

I am currently working on an axe concentrate barbarian, and am in need of a decent one hand axe. I was wondering If any of you have ever tried crafting a zerker axe or other, and if it was worthwhile?

If you can, please try to include stats, dmg.

I was thinking a blood axe might be a good alternative to a botd zerker since im not too wealthy, but im not sure if its worth the time and effort.

thx

[mstrnicegui]

I've only tried making a few blood axes at all, maybe 12, and I came out with a +1 skills, 80-250 dmg zerker axe with one socket. All the rest of the stats were underwhelming, but that would be good enough to keep you alive. I made a crescent moon zerker axe and was able to kill well with it through the entire game in players 1 (3k dmg with might). Once I made my first, and so far only, BoTD in a 6 socket non eth non superior zerker that I found, I am able to kill in up to 3 players games with reasonable speed (almost 5k dmg with might). Of course, this is all helped by my might merc with 3k dmg and reaper's toll.

[Zero-unit]

Blood crafts can actually make you a very good weapon, thing is it might take you a couple tries. Depending on your character level and item level it will determine the outcome. I've though of doing this myself but it's costly you will need to find yourself a new zerker axe after each try and find the other ingrediants.

Dr@kE~

[bara]

IMHO it wold be easier to find a dozen majic zerker axe's, ort runes. P rubies, and jems, then to find even one of the super rare BOTD/Famine Runes. Unless you know a way to get the runes without finding them........

[urban savage]

a blood zerker has the chance to be the greatest damaging single handed weapon in the game! having said that, its basically impossible to get but still when it's perfect it beats a perf eBoTD 415%ed zerker hands down.
good luck!

[Katharsis]

thx guys, anyone out there got any examples of how powerful they would get?

[Madmartagan2002]

Note that you can buy magical beserker Axes in the stores- and that they spawn with an item level = to the char that buys it.

[memememe173]

crafting, even more so now then in 1.09, can net you very powerful items with little cost

[Jarkeld]

BUMP

I have thought that a blood zerker axe would make a nice weapon, the thing stopping me from crafting the crap out of them, is, do crafted weapons get the mods rares can now? I mean, now rares can be godly, but in 09 the max ed/mods on crafted weapons was like what 60%? Does anyone know for sure that crafted weapons can be as godly as rares?

[Zero-unit]

how powerful they would get?
An example can be.

Cruel mod: 201-300% enhanced damage
Veterans mod: +2 to Combat skills
or Fools mod: +16.5 to attack rating, .5 to maximum damage based on level
Mechanics mod: 2 sockets

of Quickness mod: 40% increased attack speed
of Slaughter mod: +15-20 to maximum damage
of Self-Repair mod: Repairs 1 durability every 5 seconds

And these crafts can be ethereal if crafted with an ethereal item. Rares can get these as well but it is much harder to find.

Dr@kE~

[bara]

Note that you can buy magical beserker Axes in the stores- and that they spawn with an item level = to the char that buys it.

I did not know that, where is the best place to buy them, I assume hell A5?

This is really good news: The item level of the crafted item is the average of the crafters character level and the input item. So my higest lvl char (84 necro) can get a lvl 84 crafted blood zerker axe. WHOOOHOOOO! What is the minimum item level for a cruel weapon?

[memememe173]

Larzuk and Halbu will have them in occasionally, along with Giant Threshers, War Pikes and Glorious Axes

[MrGoth]

Er forgot about this. But if you really want to see how sick a crafted weapon can turn out, ~clicky!~ (http://hellreapers.com/forum/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=29062)

That was made by a friend, its damn sexy no?

[memememe173]

Er forgot about this. But if you really want to see how sick a crafted weapon can turn out, ~clicky!~ (http://hellreapers.com/forum/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=29062)

That was made by a friend, its damn sexy no?
i think it's safe to say DAMN!

[Zangeif]

If only it were ethereal....

[Ash Housewares]

wow, hellreapers are still around?

[Dresh]

An example can be.

And these crafts can be ethereal if crafted with an ethereal item.



Is this true? And if yes, then what are the chances it would be ethereal like the item it was crafted upon?

I've never done much in crafting - but with the opportunity of potentially creating the highest damage weapon in the game maybe it is time to start gathering those jewels..

[Zero-unit]

You'd hafto find an ethereal Zerk they won't come in crafts, but if you craft with an eth Zerk the ethereal part will stay i just cant gaurentee the best mods you can get. These are done based on your character level and item level the higher they are the better the craft and mods.

Dr@kE~

[Katharsis]

hmmm, ive tried 3 times now... the most dmg i got on a zerker is 123 or so...crafting with a lvl 85 pally using axes bought from larzuk... any way i can make my chances of getting something decent greater?

thx

[jumbo_SHRIMP]

i am 99% sure that you cant use(or at least couldnt before 1.10) ethereal items for crafting

phelix

[sorcyone]

An example can be.

Cruel mod: 201-300% enhanced damage
Veterans mod: +2 to Combat skills
or Fools mod: +16.5 to attack rating, .5 to maximum damage based on level
Mechanics mod: 2 sockets

of Quickness mod: 40% increased attack speed
of Slaughter mod: +15-20 to maximum damage
of Self-Repair mod: Repairs 1 durability every 5 seconds

And these crafts can be ethereal if crafted with an ethereal item. Rares can get these as well but it is much harder to find.

Dr@kE~

I would hope for the second prefix to be Masters for +150% ed.

The best would be an ethereal rare Legendary Mallet. With
Prefixes: Cruel 300%ed, Masters 150%ed, 2 sockets (Ohm, 40ed15%IAS)
Suffixes: self-repair, Slaughter +20maxdam, quickness 40%IAS.
gives 540%ed. Let' see 6.4 * 55.5 * 1.5 +10 = 543 average damage.
Crafted 610ed Zerker with 2 Ohm would get 47.5 * 7.1 = 337 average dam.
Perfect botd 415ed zerker would get 47.5 * 1.5 * 5.15 = 367 average dam.

I found this one 2 days ago, although it's too slow for WW, I am going to make a zealot with it. It has more damage than any unique 1H weapon and I love the level requirement.
Stone Sever Small cresent
1 handed 178-294 (av 236)
Level 48
Durability 13
Dexterity 73
Strength 105
214ed
+12 max dam
+251 attack rating
6% Life leech
Repairs 1 in 33 secs
ethereal

[bara]

The best would be an ethereal rare Legendary Mallet. With
Prefixes: Cruel 300%ed, Masters 150%ed, 2 sockets (Ohm, 40ed15%IAS)
Suffixes: self-repair, Slaughter +20maxdam, quickness 40%IAS.



Ok, a legendary mallet can be a hit power weapon, not a blood weapon.

Somebody correct me if I am wrong:
When crafting you get the 3 preset mods, + up to 4 random afixis. So the "best" that you mention,with 6 afixis (I don't think any of them are the 3 preset hit power mods) in not quite possible.

The main reason for a blood weapon is the life leech, and the fact that a zerker axe is already faster than most mace class weapons, the flail and its stronger brethern being the exception. So you do not need to "hope" for fast attack with a zerker axe. If you do not need the leech perhpas a hitpower scourge would be the best way to go if you still need a fast attack. The down side is of course the scourge has jack for low end damage. If you can settle for a slower attack, and don't need the leach I suppose that a hitpower weapon can deal more damage.

[ImmortalBlood]

You'd hafto find an ethereal Zerk they won't come in crafts, but if you craft with an eth Zerk the ethereal part will stay i just cant gaurentee the best mods you can get. These are done based on your character level and item level the higher they are the better the craft and mods.

Dr@kE~
Ive Seen people trade 1 Soj for a Eth Zerker O_O

[memememe173]

Ive Seen people trade 1 Soj for a Eth Zerker O_Oa magic one?

[Randal.Flag]

When I crafted ethreal vampirebone gloves, the ethreal mod disappeared..... can crafts even be ethreal then?

[ImmortalBlood]

a magic one?
no, a regular one
i see tons get traded like that everyday O_o

[squigipapa]

When I crafted ethreal vampirebone gloves, the ethreal mod disappeared..... can crafts even be ethreal then?

I have used an ethereal, magical zerker axe for crafting and the ethereal mod does NOT stay. I don't know if it is possible for it to stay, all I know is that when I did it, it went away. and the axe sucked, but I won't give up, I want a 610%ED zerker (well, 510% with 2 ohm's, or maybe 590%ED and 30IAS with 2 40/15's)

I should have one some time around 2040 .. I'll keep you guys posted. :)

[memememe173]

no, a regular one
i see tons get traded like that everyday O_o
if it's eth then people want to make BotD in it

[JohnofTesh]

ethereal does not stick when you craft.

[sorcyone]

Ok, a legendary mallet can be a hit power weapon, not a blood weapon.

Somebody correct me if I am wrong:
When crafting you get the 3 preset mods, + up to 4 random afixis. So the "best" that you mention,with 6 afixis (I don't think any of them are the 3 preset hit power mods) in not quite possible.

The main reason for a blood weapon is the life leech, and the fact that a zerker axe is already faster than most mace class weapons, the flail and its stronger brethern being the exception. So you do not need to "hope" for fast attack with a zerker axe. If you do not need the leech perhpas a hitpower scourge would be the best way to go if you still need a fast attack. The down side is of course the scourge has jack for low end damage. If you can settle for a slower attack, and don't need the leach I suppose that a hitpower weapon can deal more damage.

Sure, and the range on Legendary Mallet sux. But I was talking about a plain rare, not a crafted item. IMHO the best possible rare zerker would still beat the best possible blood zerker, simply because the rare can be ethereal + self repairing.
Best rare zerker (6 affixes)
Prefixes: Cruel 300%ed, Masters 150%ed, 2 sockets (100%ed Ohm, Ohm)
Suffixes: self-repair, Slaughter +20maxdam, quickness 40%IAS
gives 550%ed. Let' see 47.5 * 1.5 * 6.5 +10 = 473 average damage.
Best blood zerker (4 affixes)
Prefixes: Cruel 300%ed, Masters 150%ed, 2 sockets (100%ed Ohm, Ohm)
Suffixes: quickness 40%IAS.
Fixed: 60%ed, 4% LL, 20 Life.
gives 610%ed Zerker, 47.5 * 7.1 = 337 average dam.

Quite a difference !

[Dresh]

Sure, and the range on Legendary Mallet sux. But I was talking about a plain rare, not a crafted item. IMHO the best possible rare zerker would still beat the best possible blood zerker, simply because the rare can be ethereal + self repairing.
Best rare zerker (6 affixes)
Prefixes: Cruel 300%ed, Masters 150%ed, 2 sockets (100%ed Ohm, Ohm)
Suffixes: self-repair, Slaughter +20maxdam, quickness 40%IAS
gives 550%ed. Let' see 47.5 * 1.5 * 6.5 +10 = 473 average damage.
Best blood zerker (4 affixes)
Prefixes: Cruel 300%ed, Masters 150%ed, 2 sockets (100%ed Ohm, Ohm)
Suffixes: quickness 40%IAS.
Fixed: 60%ed, 4% LL, 20 Life.
gives 610%ed Zerker, 47.5 * 7.1 = 337 average dam.

Quite a difference !

Instead of the Slaughter (+20maxdam) suffix why not Of Amplify Damage (5% To Cast Level 1 Amplify Damage)? With a fast attack speed it would be set of all the time...

Just a thought..

[Grandar King of Trolls]

Instead of the Slaughter (+20maxdam) suffix why not Of Amplify Damage (5% To Cast Level 1 Amplify Damage)? With a fast attack speed it would be set of all the time...

Just a thought..


Good point, would be nice for a frenzy barb or a zealot. Of course a necro buddy would be better... :P

[Dresh]

Good point, would be nice for a frenzy barb or a zealot. Of course a necro buddy would be better... :P

Would be hard to socket a necro in a sword.

Of Necromancer
%5 chance to trigger psychotic necro. Fires curses at random.

:P

Seriously, a merc with a Reaper's Toll would set off Decripify all the time. Wouldn't it overwrite Amplify Damage then?

[Wargasm]

Ok, I think most everyone missed the one question further down about Cruel lvl reqs, so I'll get it... lol


Lowest clvl req I've ever seen on a cruel was 42, but that's not a hard and fast number.

[bara]

Instead of the Slaughter (+20maxdam) suffix why not Of Amplify Damage (5% To Cast Level 1 Amplify Damage)? With a fast attack speed it would be set of all the time...

Just a thought..


A lvl one amp has a very small range, I have sword with this stat and it often only curses the monster I am attacking. Which of corse would have died on the second swing anyway. Kind of a usless stat.


Repaers toil has a 33% chance to cast decrip, any active merc will set off decrip almost constantly. That is a good idea!

Personally I like the +min damage stat. The mean goes up and the variance goes down, can't beat that. The risk of doing crap for damage goes down!