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thesecondrei
18-04-2004, 21:09
And I mean realistically...(meaning no perfect caster belts with perfect stats etc...)
You tele and spam bone spirits like a maniac. Your speed matches a sorc tele. Fast and deadly...
+2 Necro +20 FCR Circlet (20%)
Hoto 40 FCR (60%)
Darkforce Spawn 30 FCR (90%)
Arachnid's Mesh 20 FCR (110%)
Trang"s Gloves (130%)
thesecondrei
18-04-2004, 23:44
What's a good replacement for a darkforce spawn? (I don't play ladder)
Arachnid (20)
Trang Gloves (40)
2 Necro 20 fcr(60)
Wizardspike (110)
Lidless(130)
Dracoy.1colony.com i have 2x 125 fcr set up shown.
Wizardspike is 100x better than hoto, mana resists etc. Plus skills is nice but after massive testing a hoto just doesnt cut it for me. Wizardspike rules...
Hypnectic
19-04-2004, 01:56
Agreed dracoy. go spike! :yep:
shade449
19-04-2004, 02:28
Arachnid (20)
Trang Gloves (40)
2 Necro 20 fcr(60)
Wizardspike (110)
Lidless(130)
Dracoy.1colony.com i have 2x 125 fcr set up shown.
Wizardspike is 100x better than hoto, mana resists etc. Plus skills is nice but after massive testing a hoto just doesnt cut it for me. Wizardspike rules...
Wizzy is nice but if you already have 125 fcr and max resists I'd rather go with hoto.
Foh Paladins/Blizzard sorcs will rip you apart :) These people u see everywhere in pubby...
Id rather have consistent mana so i can spam my spells and tele for ages.
Also its a lot harder to hit fcr bps O_o
yes i agree with the previous post about the non ladder setup. However here is another alternative if you play non ladder.
helm: 1.08 valk helm 30%fcr
gloves: magefists 20%fcr (trangs when u need cold resist)
amulet: +2 necro 20%fcr
weapon: hoto 40%fcr
belt: arachnids 20%fcr
total fcr: 130%fcr
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rest:
Enigma/CoH (if your playing under no tele rules)
sojs/10%fcr ring(s) (which would let you use a +2 necro w/ 20% fcr circlet or maras)
marrows/ sandstorms/ rare boots (with frw, fcr, str/dex, resists etc etc)
10xPB charms with life (have some PBs with fhr to get you to the next fhr frame if needed)
Homo shield
CTA with Lidless shield
the thing with this is instead of +2 necro helm and wizpike, you get to use Hoto and a helm (depending if you use fcr ring(s)). I like hoto because it will give you more skills than wiz and because it is +3 to all skills, it also helps BO from CTA. (nm, ignore the BO thing :lol: ) resists can be easily recovered via charms, rings, ammies, or sockets
ps: if you are suggesting wizspike just because of mana why suggest trangs? for curses? are you using marrows because my bone necro with non marrows can barely max out all the synergies for bone let alone get decrip curse. blizz sorcs and FoH pallies shouldnt be a problem if you play smart =/ resists can be easily made up via charms. (there is also a flexibility on the shield so u can change up the shield depending on which type of resist you need)
shade449
19-04-2004, 03:05
I like hoto because it will give you more skills than wiz and because it is +3 to all skills, it also helps BO from CTA.
No, hoto would not help bo. If you're wielding cta you cant use hoto at the same time... unless you're a barb.
08 valk is expensive -_- Yeah 08 valk is probably the best... but its hard to get.
No, hoto would not help bo. If you're wielding cta you cant use hoto at the same time... unless you're a barb.
sorry, exactly what i got confused with (weapon and BO)
shade449
19-04-2004, 03:28
08 valk is expensive -_- Yeah 08 valk is probably the best... but its hard to get.
If you can afford a godly 2 skills/20 fcr/30 frw/resist/stats circlet you'll probably be able to afford a 08 valk.
Arachnid (20)
Trang Gloves (40)
2 Necro 20 fcr amulet(60) <= cheap duped ones on realmss
Wizardspike (110)
Lidless(130)
All farily easy.
shade449
19-04-2004, 03:38
Arachnid (20)
Trang Gloves (40)
2 Necro 20 fcr amulet(60) <= cheap duped ones on realmss
Wizardspike (110)
Lidless(130)
All farily easy.
What realm has the 20 fcr necro ammy dupes? Im on west and dont know of any. They would cost me an arm and a leg to get(not to mention endless spamming of channels) so I went for something like this:
08 valk
Magefists
Wizzy
Arachnid
Rare 10 fcr ring
USeast realm
http://dracoy.1colony.com/Nap6.JPG
I would gamble. I have ggambled 3x good necro 10 fcr amulets. Try gambling. :) But ur set up is pretty tight.
Corpseus
19-04-2004, 03:43
My setup looks like this, I won't say its pro, but it gets the job done.
+2 20 cast 30 r/w 17 life circlet (jah)
+2 19 fcr crafted ammy
mages
wiz(repenish life/resist jewel)
ber'd homuc
enigma
marrowalks
arachnid mesh
soj
ravenfrost
When I want the big damage setup I drop to 75 cast and use a white with 3 spirit + blodfists/frosties instead of wiz and mages.
If you go block you are really limited by shield choices, homuc, storm, or whistans are about the only ones that cut it(except for crazy rares/magic totems) so you can't really get cast from there. There are perks to all the different 125 cast setups, but none of them are really cheap, a sweet helm(08 valk or crazy rare), a nice crafted amulet or real nice caster rings are pretty nessasary.I also strongly reccomend wiz becuase it gives you the mana base you need to put good use to 125 cast.
FattyMcGee
19-04-2004, 07:11
HotO + fcr/res all/mana/life rare ring > wizzy + soj
if you're not on ladder and so you can't get a darkforce, best bet is:
15-20% fcr +2 nec skills ammy
40% fcr hoto
20% trangs gloves
20% arach mesh
20% fcr rare circlet
1 10% fcr rare ring.
if you can't find a 15-20% ammy, just get a 5-10 (easily crafted or purchased) and swap out that extra soj/bk ring for another rare fcr ring. Rare fcr rings can be great: can have TONS of mana, good life, res all, +str, + dex, etc etc. Don't underestimate the fcr rings!!!
--fatty
P.S. *the options above will give you far better final stats than switching the helm for shako and the homunculus for lidless*
posted on my friend's accnt by accident......ignore.
Corpseus
19-04-2004, 07:49
HotO + fcr/res all/mana/life rare ring > wizzy + soj
wiz
+2 Mana per Clvl
+15% Mana Regen
+15% to Maximum Mana
All Resistances +75%
50% Faster Cast Rate
(socket of your choice,
lets go with something crazy like 9 dex/ 9 strength/ 7 fhr / 12 dmg to mana- and I have seen atleast one jewel that was that good, in an eth occy in .09 actually)
soj
+20 Mana
+25% Mana
+1 to All Skills
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hoto
+3 To All Skills
+40% Faster Cast Rate
+10 To Dexterity
Replenish Life +20
Increase Maximum Mana 15%
All Resistances +40
rare caster ring as was stated( ideally I would tack a stat on there if I had made the previous statement, however I believe a ring such as this is a fine example of a great caster ring anyway)
10 cast
15 resist all
60 mana
50 life
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
These are the pertinent stats of the two setups, without all the irrelavant clutter. Now let me add the mods together and delete comparable mods from both side so it would be left with easy to see differences.
+2 Mana per Clvl
+15% Mana Regen
+40% to Maximum Mana
All Resistances +20%
9 strength
7 fhr
12 % damage to mana
+2 To All Skills
+1 To Dexterity
Replenish Life +20
Increase Maximum Mana 15%
40 mana
50 life
It is absolutly a matter of preference, and how good ones wiz jewel is compared to how good one's caster ring is. I don't see anywhere where someone would be able to clearly see one as the unquestioned superior setup. I don't believe a statement like the one you made proves anything except making inexperienced duelers rush out for their hoto's becuase someone reputable on the forum said so. I am certain in many situations the raw damage from hoto pulls its worth, but likewise the huge mana surplus from the wiz also shines in those long duels that still happen on occasion happen.
i went with 110 fcr but i can add +10 more with ammy
10 fcr ringx2 (20) /w resist
upd mage (20)
wiz (50)
arachnid (20)
Enigma(wierfleece)+marrow+upd homunc(um)+shako(um) +3 p&b ammy of the apprentice (10fcr)
takes care of everything and dmg is still very high
Pallidum
19-04-2004, 13:36
If you're gonna go with 110%, or even 120%, you might as well leave it at 75% because their casting frames are the same. You won't see a difference until you hit 125%.
FattyMcGee
19-04-2004, 14:59
These are the pertinent stats of the two setups, without all the irrelavant clutter. Now let me add the mods together and delete comparable mods from both side so it would be left with easy to see differences.
+2 Mana per Clvl
+15% Mana Regen
+40% to Maximum Mana
All Resistances +20%
9 strength
7 fhr
12 % damage to mana
+2 To All Skills
+1 To Dexterity
Replenish Life +20
Increase Maximum Mana 15%
40 mana
50 life
It is absolutly a matter of preference, and how good ones wiz jewel is compared to how good one's caster ring is. I don't see anywhere where someone would be able to clearly see one as the unquestioned superior setup. I don't believe a statement like the one you made proves anything except making inexperienced duelers rush out for their hoto's becuase someone reputable on the forum said so. I am certain in many situations the raw damage from hoto pulls its worth, but likewise the huge mana surplus from the wiz also shines in those long duels that still happen on occasion happen.
Since mana pots are generally not considered bm anymore, and 99.99% of duelers use them, that extra bit to mana doesn't really matter. Down a mana pot if you're running low on mana in duels. If it's against the rules of the place you're playing in, I guess you could switch out for a wizzy. Or, you could just be more careful about your bs placement. Either way that will virtually never happen, so it's not a worry.
only other good thing I can see on there is... well, a bit more res and 7fhr. Well 2x 20life scs is 40 life, and 2x fhr scs is 10 fhr, so if you sub in 2 fhr scs you'll GAIN 3% fhr and 10 life w/ hoto/fcr ring, with your hypothetical setup. Also, get shimmering/vitas, or even vitas with just light or cold res. 20% res (which isn't even applicable in all duels) is EASILY made up in other areas, especially charms.
try to make up +2 to all skills in other areas. You can't.
I stand by my claim.
--fatty
jumbo_SHRIMP
19-04-2004, 15:46
anyone ever think about crafting WANDS?
i mean, it doesnt get much better than:
+2 necro skills
+2 sockets
+110 mana
20% faster cast
+20 energy
+whatever
+5% max mana
+10% regen mana
+3 skill(bone armor for instance)
couple rare jewels in there(i find that finding some rare crap jewel(you can get for cheap) then re-roll using pskulls until you get the sweetness)
something like:+15 mana, 10 res all, 9 str, 9 dex
2 of those baddies in that wand:
+2 necro skills
+20 res all
+140 mana
20% faster cast rate
+20 energy
+5% max mana
+10% mana regen
+18 str
+18 dex
+3 bone spirit
+3 decrepify
YUM
phelix
Pallidum
19-04-2004, 17:19
anyone ever think about crafting WANDS?
i mean, it doesnt get much better than:
+2 necro skills
+2 sockets
+110 mana
20% faster cast
+20 energy
+whatever
+5% max mana
+10% regen mana
+3 skill(bone armor for instance)
couple rare jewels in there(i find that finding some rare crap jewel(you can get for cheap) then re-roll using pskulls until you get the sweetness)
something like:+15 mana, 10 res all, 9 str, 9 dex
2 of those baddies in that wand:
+2 necro skills
+20 res all
+140 mana
20% faster cast rate
+20 energy
+5% max mana
+10% mana regen
+18 str
+18 dex
+3 bone spirit
+3 decrepify
YUM
phelix
I can already see 2 problems with that. First of all, its practically next to impossible to spawn a wand with those mods you mentioned. The chance of that happening is comparable to imbuing a godly necro circlet. And believe me, I've tried MANY times to imbue such a helm. So far my efforts are unsuccessful, although I have gained plenty of gold back by selling them to Charsi.
Secondly, even if you succeed, theres the problem of achieving the 125 casting rate breakpoint without compromising other gears. Many necros abhor white wands, however godly they might be, for that exact same reason.
Finally, Im not even sure those mods can appear on a crafted wand.
jumbo_SHRIMP
19-04-2004, 17:49
first of all its nothing like a stupid circlet cuz wands have like 10 prefixes and suffixes they can spawn, while a circlet basically spawns every single prefix/suffix in the game, its way easier to spawn this on crafting a wand,
#2 is there such a problem with fcr?
armor: possible 30%(unless you are a ***** and insist on one of the runewords)
shield 20, 30%
gloves 20%
helmet 20%
rings: 10, 20%
amulet 10, 20%
belt: 20%
thats 160 potential, when you only need 105(20% on wand)...you may remove any 55% from the list(for instance armor and both rings) and still be just fine...i dont see where this "huge problem" with getting fcr makes getting good gear so hard...bah!
if you think 30% fcr is not worthwhile to give you +5 more skills...i think you need to re-evaluate your ideals
phelix
Corpseus
19-04-2004, 18:12
Since mana pots are generally not considered bm anymore, and 99.99% of duelers use them, that extra bit to mana doesn't really matter.
Also, get shimmering/vitas, or even vitas with just light or cold res. 20% res (which isn't even applicable in all duels) is EASILY made up in other areas, especially charms.
try to make up +2 to all skills in other areas. You can't.
--fatty
First point if mana pots are cool in your neck of the woods then fine, but even if they were fair game in mine, I have building chars to long and I believe any caster worth their salt should be able to deal without them. But becuase of you saying this, no wonder you prefer HotO,.
If you use shimmerings of vita to get resists up you sacrafice even more potential mana, becuase all those shimmerings could be serpents, but once again, since where you duel it is not BM to drink mana pots then I understand your decision, but I certainly believe you should at least say
Hoto+ mana pots + nice fcr ring > wiz + soj
or
Hoto+ mana pots + nice fcr ring > wiz + soj ( for FattyMcGee )
Try to make up the kind of mana you get from wiz/soj....you can't,
This doesn't make wiz better but why there is no clear best.
Pallidum
19-04-2004, 18:40
first of all its nothing like a stupid circlet cuz wands have like 10 prefixes and suffixes they can spawn, while a circlet basically spawns every single prefix/suffix in the game, its way easier to spawn this on crafting a wand,
#2 is there such a problem with fcr?
armor: possible 30%(unless you are a ***** and insist on one of the runewords)
shield 20, 30%
gloves 20%
helmet 20%
rings: 10, 20%
amulet 10, 20%
belt: 20%
thats 160 potential, when you only need 105(20% on wand)...you may remove any 55% from the list(for instance armor and both rings) and still be just fine...i dont see where this "huge problem" with getting fcr makes getting good gear so hard...bah!
if you think 30% fcr is not worthwhile to give you +5 more skills...i think you need to re-evaluate your ideals
phelix
Hey, I was just offering some constructive criticism based on my experieces. If you wish to ignore it and continue with your foolish notions until you realize better, then by all means waste your time.
And it is practically impossible to spawn those mods that you mentioned in the wand. It would take you many, many tries and still not come close to the mods that you want.
And yes, every necro that chooses to use enigma is a "*****" in your eyes. Have fun with your vipermagi and getting pwned left and right by necros that know how to duel.
Finally, I said equipping a crafted wand with only 20% fcr would comprise other gears. I didnt say it was impossible, which you failed to realize.
Assuming you are wearing engima (which most necros with a brain uses). Mage/Arachnid gives you 20. Ammy (optimal) gives you 20. Thats 60. Arachnid gives 20. Thats 80. Lidless gives you 20. Thats 100. 2 fast cast rings (20). Thats 120. You are still missing 5. You can make this up with a helm. Say you go with this setup. You are sorely deficient in the fast hit recovery department, as well as mana and life. If you want to go with that build, by all means, proceed. But be prepared to get pwned by a half decent nec. If you are on East nonladder softcore, I will gladly show you what I mean and educate you farther. /w *dearfriend or send me a PM if you are inclined.
http://dracoy.1colony.com/Nap6.JPG
That's a really nice ammy , too bad its hacked and duped.
Clues: Stone Amulet "Circlet"
- 2 nec skill 2 sorc skill - as far as i remember only classic ammies could have double skills and since only ghoul heart ammy is still in circulation , part of this ammy must be ghoul heart
-The other part of this ammy is a regular circlet, which explains two things: the crazy life and mana mods and most importantly the lvl REQ of 34 which is way too low for an amulet of that caliber. The lvl req should be at least 89 for that ammy. Therefore the req came from the circlet.
therefore that circlet is a combination of a circlet and ammy and therefore a hacked and duped item that shouldn't be posted here.
o and btw i've seen the exact same circlet in west and although not heavily duped over here it is still in circulation.
Corpseus
19-04-2004, 19:04
http://dracoy.1colony.com/Nap6.JPG
most importantly the lvl REQ of 34 which is way too low.
I believe that the reqs for a circlet like that would be even higher than that, let alone an amulet as you mentioned. It is an apparent hack/dupe no matter what the situation though.
It also has no mana regan, which all crafted caster ammies have. -edit
jumbo_SHRIMP
19-04-2004, 20:04
ill kill you with a stealth on
phelix
anyone ever think about crafting WANDS?
i mean, it doesnt get much better than:
+2 necro skills
+2 sockets
+110 mana
20% faster cast
+20 energy
+whatever
+5% max mana
+10% regen mana
+3 skill(bone armor for instance)
couple rare jewels in there(i find that finding some rare crap jewel(you can get for cheap) then re-roll using pskulls until you get the sweetness)
something like:+15 mana, 10 res all, 9 str, 9 dex
2 of those baddies in that wand:
+2 necro skills
+20 res all
+140 mana
20% faster cast rate
+20 energy
+5% max mana
+10% mana regen
+18 str
+18 dex
+3 bone spirit
+3 decrepify
YUM
phelix
just a side note:
im not targeting you personally or your opinion its just that i think only if a wand spawned with most/all of those stats, would it be a good alternative. Otherwise, one of the other weapons (i.e. hoto, wizspike, white) would probably be better (btw i dont think a wand can spawn with all of those stats anyways).
-----
ok back to the main point i wanted to make.
Plz remember that the original poster said he didnt want unrealistic suggestions :lol:
such as his example of the perfect caster belt with perfect stats. The wand you suggested seems to fall under this category. Yes i know that ppl have suggested +2skill, 20%fcr, but that isn't anywhere near your wand :uhhuh:
anyways thx for your suggestion regardless, the more opinions the better. It's nice to see someone coming up with new ideas. :clap:
PS: a tele necro with bonewall (or prison) would own a necro without tele imo :surprise:
Pallidum
19-04-2004, 21:13
ill kill you with a stealth on
phelix
Then set a date, time, and place.
Or PM me.
jumbo_SHRIMP
19-04-2004, 21:13
PS: a tele necro with bonewall (or prison) would own a necro without tele imo :surprise:
thats why its completely pointless, enigma = dueling if you are willing to use it, i for one, like i said before think its for pussies, those not willing to stay within the confines of their own class in order to compete against others, anyone who cant own everyone else with a teleporting bone prison bone spirit spam, should be riding the short bus...
and by the way THAT WAND CAN SPAWN YOU FRUITS
phelix
jumbo_SHRIMP
19-04-2004, 21:14
k...ill do the pm thing...did you say non ladder tho? cuz ill have to make a char if you did, i slipped and forgot all my chars :-D...ill do it tho
phelix
Pallidum
19-04-2004, 21:19
East softcore nonladder , or leave your bnet handle so i can msg you for a duel.
FattyMcGee
19-04-2004, 23:45
If you're Ladder west jumbo, I'm sure Pallidum would allow me to temporarily step in and own you with one of my "***** necs," at least until you get your non-ladder character working.
/w *thefatty on ladder west
First point if mana pots are cool in your neck of the woods then fine, but even if they were fair game in mine, I have building chars to long and I believe any caster worth their salt should be able to deal without them. But becuase of you saying this, no wonder you prefer HotO,.
If you use shimmerings of vita to get resists up you sacrafice even more potential mana, becuase all those shimmerings could be serpents, but once again, since where you duel it is not BM to drink mana pots then I understand your decision, but I certainly believe you should at least say
Hoto+ mana pots + nice fcr ring > wiz + soj
or
Hoto+ mana pots + nice fcr ring > wiz + soj ( for FattyMcGee )
Try to make up the kind of mana you get from wiz/soj....you can't,
This doesn't make wiz better but why there is no clear best.
Where exactly do you duel Corpseus?
And why, with 1.2-1.3k mana and extra mana regen (yes, that's what I have with my HotO/fcr ring nec) would you need a bit more from wizzy anyway?
You must spam an unnaturally large amount of bs to go through all that mana quickly before killing an opponent who is also not using mana pots.
Do you not have very much experience with ibs fields? Usually those who first hear about them, but don't know how to properly set them up go through mana the fastest, because they're spamming bs everywhere hoping to have a caster tele into them :uhhuh:
HotO + no mana pots + fcr ring > wiz spike + soj (for any experienced dueler). If you'd like to prove me otherwise, feel free to whisper me for a no mana pot duel. See if I'm "worth my salt" won't you?
/w *thefatty
I mentioned the "Storm Circlet" was hacked. It is a common dupe in useast. Thats why i said that its fairly easy to get on useast non ladder. Im showing that its a common useast dupe. He didnt know that we had one like this. So i wanted to show him what most commonly bone necros in pbuby use. Anyways its not something to sue. 08 valk is also duped and hard to get -_-
Wha titems do u use fatty.
What the heck gives u 1.3k mana...
And why, with 1.2-1.3k mana and extra mana regen
Do you use BO, or tele for that matter?
I duel on Europe, usually in AOW for lack of anything better. There tele/bo are not allowed. And I have been dueling long enough that I know how experienced I am, I am not going to get into any further of a pissing contest. If i want damage I use white, if I want resists/mana I use wiz. HotO doesn't strike my fancy.
You must spam an unnaturally large amount of bs to go through all that mana quickly before killing an opponent who is also not using mana pots.
I also mainly t v t, so it usually is killing more than one oponent, with some barb bo to boot.
-Corpseus on friends accnt
When i use wiz+ lvl 4 bo i have like 1.1k mana. How the heck do u have so much!!!
Gear please full gear listing and if u have any in nrg or charms etc.
wait, i heard that 08 valk wing was bugged item No?
There is 08 valk and bug 08 valk two differnet items. dont known mods on bug though sry
FattyMcGee
20-04-2004, 03:00
Wha titems do u use fatty.
What the heck gives u 1.3k mana...
Hoto
Shako
Enigma
Darkforce
arach
crafted +2nec caster ammy w/ fcr + mana + mana regen + res all
soj
rare fcr ring w/ about 85 mana, +18 str and some res
marrows
trangs/magefists
CtA (and it's only a crappy +2 one. with a better CtA I'd have a little more mana)
LOTS of vita scs, some w/ serpent's mod. I value 60life/45+ mana over 1 more skill point to my bone spells usually, so I only use 1-2 pnb gcs right now. I still do 4850 dmg per spirit, 4.5k per spear, so it's not a big deal.
around 3.1k life, around 1.2k mana after my crappy bo -.-
Do you use BO, or tele for that matter?
I duel on Europe, usually in AOW for lack of anything better. There tele/bo are not allowed. And I have been dueling long enough that I know how experienced I am, I am not going to get into any further of a pissing contest. If i want damage I use white, if I want resists/mana I use wiz. HotO doesn't strike my fancy.
I also mainly t v t, so it usually is killing more than one oponent, with some barb bo to boot.
-Corpseus on friends accnt
I use BO and tele, if it's allowed in the duel game. I have the option. I don't use either if its' not allowed.
I have a +3 spirit white and fhr/res jeweled wizzy. I use white on my block/dr nec, because he's built for only 75% fcr. I use HotO on my NvN nec, because i need either it or wizzy for 125% fcr. I only swap out for wiz when i'm dueling FoH or Bliz or other -res character classes. I happen to find HotO is the best of both worlds, for me. If it doesn't strike your fancy, that's fine. But for general all-around dueling, I've found it to be the best overall for 125% necs against a variety of classes in 1.10. However, it doesn't mean one is going to lose duels if they don't happen to have a hoto of course.
Skill overshadows stats, I'm sure we both can agree on that.
Yep, that nice 30+ barb bo can help lots in tvt :)
--fatty
So i would be doing more damage than ur necro and having around same mana... If you sacrifice all those pnb charms ur damage would be 2-3k less than mine wiht only like 300 life more. O______O
But nice build. yes skill overshadows stats. What if i was like same skill as u O_O then that would mea n oucha.
Corpseus
20-04-2004, 09:30
If it doesn't strike your fancy, that's fine. But for general all-around dueling, I've found it to be the best overall for 125% necs against a variety of classes in 1.10. However, it doesn't mean one is going to lose duels if they don't happen to have a hoto of course.
Skill overshadows stats, I'm sure we both can agree on that.
I think if I were to make an absolute all rounder(and didn't have the luxury of a second switch via cta/lidless) I would also probobly opt for a HotO. My current nec allows for on the fly stacked resist switch (wiz/varied resist shields or umd homuc) to huge damage switch on the other (ber'd homuc/ +3 bs white) ideally keeping 125 cast on the resist switch but my build doesnt always allow it depending on how much I have to stack.
I believe you absolutly know what you are talking about(and I apologize for any brashness on my part) but I think our opinions vary not so much that one knows and the other doesn't but rather our dueling enviornments are drastically different hence we adapted in different ways.
And as what you said at the end I couldn't agree more. I remember in 09 n v n dueling, I got decent with a lot of the other necs floating around and one day got to duel the europe legend Sacra... dear god, that guy was amazing. His gear was nothing special(cept his charms) but the guy was just untouchable, it was like dueling a ghost. I stand by the fact that given enough time(with tele banned that is) a great nec driver with just run walk charms and no gear could beat the most pimped out nec with a poor driver.
Pallidum
20-04-2004, 22:26
Heh in all this nonsense I forget to answer the original question. Below is my NvN gear, which gives me the highest amount of life possible with my gear.
1.08 Shaeled Valk Wing
+2, 20 fcr ammy
Hoto
Enigma
1.08 Jahed Visceratuant
Magefists (Trang in stash)
10% fast cast ring with 52 life, 41 mana, and life replenish
Caster Belt with 6% FCR, 24% FHR, 55 life, and 22 mana
SOJ
Marrow for pubs/Waterwalks for pivate
That setup allows me, with charms, to reach 3.2k life and 950ish mana after bo, over 4K if I use oak charges on hoto. It also allows me to have 126% fcr, as well as 86 fhr.
My dmg (with marrows) is 5.4K spirit, an 5K spear.
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