PvP/PvM Kicker

[F1R3STR1D3R]

Hello Assassin Forum!

I'm new to kicking Assassins, but not new to Assassins themselves. I had a Dual Claw PvP Dragon Claw Sin in 1.09 Versus melee and I liked it very much.
Now that LL doesn't work as in did those kinds of sins are obsolete.

So I was thinking of a new kind of Assassin for melee PvP for me. I haven't see many kickers in dueling games, and I think it might be a good full PvP'er because of Dflight and Fade. It might also be good for PvP with phoenix, tiger, and all those other charges. I want a build that can mostly melee, can kill casters, and PvM. Help me out please!

This is what I was thinking for gear:

Enigma Archon Plate
Ethereal Upgraded Bartucs Zodded
UM / resists jewel Shako
UM / Shael Stormshield
Verdungos OR Arachnids
Shadow Dancers OR Upgraded Gore Riders
Steelrends OR +2 MA Crafted Gloves
Maras Kaliedoscope
Strength Crafted Ring
Raven Frost
Call to Arms Flail
Lidless Wall

10x Martial Arts Grand Charms of Vita
9x Steel Small Charms of Vita
1x Annihilus

20 Tiger Strike
20 Dragon Talon
20 Phoenix Strike
20 Claws of Thunder
20 Venom
1 Dragon Flight
1 Prerequisites

~103 Strength Base
~180 Dexterity Base
Rest Vitality
No Energy

I was planning to use:
BoS + Dragon Talon + Venom on Melee
Fade + Dragon Flight + Teleport + Venom on Casters
Phoenix + Claws of Thunder + Dragon Tail for PvM

I don't really know how elemental damage from Venom Phoenix and Claws of Thunder is applied to the kick (just added?) but I got ~43,000 damage with this build on full charge of tiger, dtail, venom, phoenix, and claws of thunder

[F1R3STR1D3R]

53 Views and No Replies?

Come on there has to be something wrong with this build

Gear,Stats,Skills?

[F1R3STR1D3R]

Maybe I should use Angelic Rings and Amulet + Trangs Belt for Melee?

[CEG]

You have nice gear setup although I would suggest you go with Uped goreriders since the crushing blow is all important in pvm and the open wounds is great in pvp. Also I would say switch at least 5 of those MA Charms for SD charms to increase your fade/BoS/Venom. Also Why the Eth Uped Tucs for a kicker? I would go with Malice or Chaos over that for the much nicer benefits. Malice Has 100% OW and Chaos has 25% OW and nice magic damage. Also I think verdungos would be better than Arach. Also for gloves dont forget about draculs grasp, the open wounds is nice and the lifetap will keep you alive, and the + str will boost your kick damage.

I see some problems with your skills as well. Your going to be doing more claw slashing than kicking because of all the charges you want to get. I forget the numbers But I believe that you can do more damage in the time it takes you to just kick using dragon talon than you would by charging Tiger strike up then using dragon talon since the charges only apply to the first kick.

Phoenix Strike is good for pvm but isnt really worth it in pvp in my experience and maxing it out takes points from things you might need for pvp, same with CoT.

I also suggest maxing Dragon Flight. It may miss often, but when it hits the massive damage+Venom+OW is takes a nice chunk out of anyone.

You might also want to put at lesat 10 points in weapon block and switching to dual claws vs casters, the ability to block their attacks helps a lot.

Also you dont seem to have a whole lot of attack speed, perhaps if you used a Andys Visage and/or Highlords you can hit the higher attack speed breakpoints for Dragon Talon which helps in duels.

Your stats seem fine, maybe you would want a bit more in strength, say around 125 becuase strength icreases kicks a lot.

Okay I think I addressed everything. If your on USEast Ladder whisper my account *CEG and I can discuss kickers more and show you my setup.

[F1R3STR1D3R]

Well this is more of a kicker/charger hybrid.

For casters I have a 2/2/47 Jade Talon and with Shadow Dancers I can get ~50% weapon block. I'll probably use Fade and Dragon Flight mostly as skills. If needed Maras.

For melee I think I'm going to use 2x Angelic Rings, and Angelic Amulet with Trangs Belt for cannot be frozen for those high defense builds. With Burst of Speed I'm pretty sure to get 2 frame follow up kicks.

I thought Bartucs would be the best weapon for kickers because of the +3 martial arts, +20 dex, +20 str, FHR and all the other good stuff, or if you want to go BM ethereal lacerator for 33% open wounds, amp damage.

Steelrends add more damage then Draculs.

Phoenix, CoT, and Tiger are almost only for PvM.

Yes I'm on USEast Ladder my account is *Firestrider

[NBAallstar]

Hey im about to build my first kicker on EastLadder too. My account is
*Dyna-mo, contact me if u wanna lvl or share some tips together :lol: .

[F1R3STR1D3R]

I have a question:

Does bonus AR from Bartucs add to kick AR?

[Naliworld]

Yes. 10chars.