View Full Version : Money IS THE worlds greatest evil.
After thinking about this for about an hour, I've come to the conclusion that money is a big part of the worlds problems. Think about it... Why do people steal? Because they can't afford that car, that watch, that food.
Money kills people. For someone reason, if someone was in debt with lets say, a drug dealer, and he didn't pay up, well, you know the rest.
I'm not saying that we should stop our currency system, not at all, just pointing out something I noticed. I could branch off on this a lot more, but its too late, and I'll do it tomorrow.
Silvermyst
17-04-2004, 07:44
I wish I had money. I've got 16c in my bank account and I'm going out to party tonight. Money is at its evilest when I don't have it :grrr:
I wish I had money. I've got 16c in my bank account and I'm going out to party tonight. Money is at its evilest when I don't have it :grrr:
Well I mean sure, it's always nice to have it, since it makes the world go 'round and everything... But, when some people are in your position, they'll let nothing stand in their way of getting it.
IDupedInMyPants
17-04-2004, 07:47
Money's a pretty good idea. It's insatiable lust for money that's the problem.
Ash Housewares
17-04-2004, 07:47
if it wasn't money it'd be something else, money is merely a representation of the evil
if it wasn't money it'd be something else, money is merely a representation of the evil
Exactly, but right now the representation IS money... But yeah, it could be rocks, if rocks were our currency.
Wuhan_Clan
17-04-2004, 08:00
Scarcity of resources. It's why there is a subject called economics. Not everyone can have lots of money. And even some of those who do are still unsatisfied.
Scarcity of resources. It's why there is a subject called economics. Not everyone can have lots of money. And even some of those who do are still unsatisfied.
Heh, I think I'd be very satisfied if I was rich. It would take a HUGE burden off my shoulders for the rest of my life.
if it wasn't money it'd be something else, money is merely a representation of the evil
Money is neither good nor evil.
Your dependence upon it is your decision.
Edit: we should have never left the gold standard.
Ash Housewares
17-04-2004, 08:43
Heh, I think I'd be very satisfied if I was rich. It would take a HUGE burden off my shoulders for the rest of my life.
so, money is evil but you're immune to the evil?
something is wrong, you're either delusional in your own immunity to evil or your entire line of thinking is incorrect
Starseed
17-04-2004, 08:52
Well, let's not forget that the term 'evil' is quite subjective.
What you may think is evil, I might conceive as the greatest creation ever.
The guy that died 'cos he couldn't pay a drug dealer might've purposely killed my cat, so I might not see it as a bad thing.
Personally? I love money. It's just the responsibilities that go with it that I hate. If I could have gobs of money without taxes, bills, interest..
Well, I'd be Leona Helmsly. :D
Starseed
17-04-2004, 08:55
Sagging breasts?
O_O
Well, if I had that kind of money, they wouldn't sag. :uhhuh:
Well, if I had that kind of money, they wouldn't sag. :uhhuh:
Caught.
Edit: you are fast Starseed.
My_Immortal6
17-04-2004, 09:19
Money and I are fond of one another, though we don't see each other as often as we'd like.
Amra has it right. Money isn't anything at all. It's the people and the decisions around obtaining that money that can be evil.
masterazn
17-04-2004, 11:52
I have money, therefore I am!
TurdFergusen
17-04-2004, 12:09
I'd rather be rich than stupid.
SaroDarksbane
17-04-2004, 12:13
Money can be used for good purposes just as easily as bad.
"For the love of money is the root of all evil."
masterazn
17-04-2004, 12:30
I think wealth should be determined by the number of white hairs you have.
Steve_Kow
17-04-2004, 12:41
Money is evil? What?? Money is the representation of labor, and labor cannot possibly be evil, it is what allows our society to function.
masterazn
17-04-2004, 13:01
YES! All with Steve_Kow! HAIL COMMUNISM! LABOR LABOR LABOR!
Steve_Kow
17-04-2004, 13:04
Wow, that's totally not what I meant!
masterazn
17-04-2004, 13:24
YOU LIE! LET'S GET HIM!
*shoots Steve_Kow*
Money is at its evilest when I don't have it :grrr:
That's probably the truest way it can be put. Money itself isn't inherently evil, of course; it's just an advanced barter system.
Even when we finally do away with actual paper and coin money (assuming we do), the basic concept will remain: I receive a predetermined amount of "money" or "credit" or "barter units" in exchange for working a predetermined amount of time. As long as I'm allowed to then trade those "units" for goods and services, then we'll have the same problems people have had since naked tribemen traded chickens for salt.
Money isn't evil, but people sure can be when they want something bad enough.
memememe173
17-04-2004, 16:44
money isn't "evil" sloth and greed is
mysnistaken
17-04-2004, 17:45
After thinking about this for about an hour, I've come to the conclusion that money is a big part of the worlds problems. Think about it... Why do people steal? Because they can't afford that car, that watch, that food.
Money kills people. For someone reason, if someone was in debt with lets say, a drug dealer, and he didn't pay up, well, you know the rest.
I'm not saying that we should stop our currency system, not at all, just pointing out something I noticed. I could branch off on this a lot more, but its too late, and I'll do it tomorrow.
That was kind of the basis of marxism...and evidently it doesn't work
IDupedInMyPants
17-04-2004, 17:57
I think the basis of marxism was pretty similar to the basis of the libertarian stance on taxation, people being enslaved by systems that one way or another don't pay them for what their work is actually worth. Only difference really is the libertarians went to the opposite extreme for their solution to that problem. And I wouldn't say necessarily that marxism doesn't work, just that it failed once when built on a weak economy, one in which capitalism also failed.
I don't think economists of either extreme or anywhere in between think that money is evil, it's just a fabricated extension of the barter system that makes trading easier, it's a tool. It just also happens to make manipulation easier, but that's not an intended effect, nor is it a matter of money having an inherent tendency to manipulate or that manipulation being up to chance. It's an effect that people have to actively and consciously work towards achieving.
The evil, therefore, is in the hearts of those who seek to use it to that effect, and not in any quality of the stack of paper itself.
so, money is evil but you're immune to the evil?
something is wrong, you're either delusional in your own immunity to evil or your entire line of thinking is incorrect
Okay, let me rephrase... Money is evil if you DON'T have it. People steal, because they can't afford what their stealing, thus having money would probably result in no stealing.
That was kind of the basis of marxism...and evidently it doesn't work
I'm sorry, but I've never heard of 'marxism' what is it? A type of economy?
memememe173
17-04-2004, 18:21
Okay, let me rephrase... Money is evil if you DON'T have it. People steal, because they can't afford what their stealing, thus having money would probably result in no stealing.
so what would you suggest we replace it with...a barter system, samee problems...everything is free we know that couldnt work
I'm sorry, but I've never heard of 'marxism' what is it? A type of economy?
marxism is more or less comunism
Marxism is communism in its idealistic state (before Stalin, Lenin and Mao corrupted it and changed it) its a great idea in theory but it would never work.
Why would it never work?
Because humans are inherantly corrupt and evil and thus the idea that everyone would do the same and not feel jealous or envious or slothful is just horse ****.
Money isn't evil, people are evil.
Money isn't evil, people are evil.
Yes, that is the best thing I've heard all week. Oh, I started reading up on Marxism, it is a great idea, but your right, it simply will not work.
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